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post #20581 of 29490
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Originally Posted by iro-bot31 View Post

Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and I'm hoping someone can give me some advice.

 

I currently own the Alessandro MS1, I've had them for a couple years now and they're great but I figure it's time to start looking into some new cans. There are an overwhelming number of opinions out there, and even when reading through the recommended links it gets somewhat contradictory so I've come for some help.

 

I listen to a lot of progressive rock/metal, but also some classic rock and rap. My favorite bands, for reference, are Coheed and Cambria, Dream Theater, Protest the Hero, The Hold Steady, and Childish Gambino. I would use them for movies and gaming as well, but these would be of secondary importance - the quality of listening to music it what I'm most interested in.

 

I'm not really experienced at articulating what I'm looking for in terms of sound, other than that I want bass that is present and noticeable but not overpowering, good instrument separation, and strong mids for guitar and male vocals.

 

I have no amp or DAC at the moment, though down the road I may get one if necessary. Preferably, whatever headphones I get would sound great on their own, but could be enhanced by adding an amp/DAC.

 

At the moment I'm looking for some closed (or semi-open) headphones in the $200-$250 price range that would be a nice complement for what I already have. My interest has been piqued for a number of headphones, namely:

 

  • Audio Techinca ATH-A900X
  • Beyerdynamic DT-770 (250 Ohm)
  • Shure SRH840
  • AKG K550
  • V-MODA M80

 

Any advice is greatly appreciated, whether it's weighing in on these options or suggesting something that may be better suited. Thanks!

I have the shure 840 and im quite a fan. They're well balanced, perhaps a touch of mid emphasis, and i do mean a touch...sorta. Anyway, they do well all round. Here's my review on them, i apologize for some of my slight misunderstandings and mild nieveness, but it was an early production...

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post #20582 of 29490
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sq and genre preferences? open or closed? no one needs to know all the useless info you listed.

sorry
genre jazz, rock
closed

budget $80-200
 

post #20583 of 29490

I'm looking to get one of these headphones the hd650/hd700/hd800/he 400 my current setup is pc>dragonfly>o2 amp>q701 right now  I'm looking for something to complement my setup or just improve it overall.. I love the synergy with my setup right now if the q701 had some sub bass that would be amazing. so yeah basically I'm not sure what I should do I'd rather purchase a second pair of headphones and keep my dac/amp setup any suggestions would be great. 

post #20584 of 29490
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Originally Posted by wazzupi View Post

I'm looking to get one of these headphones the hd650/hd700/hd800/he 400 my current setup is pc>dragonfly>o2 amp>q701 right now  I'm looking for something to complement my setup or just improve it overall.. I love the synergy with my setup right now if the q701 had some sub bass that would be amazing. so yeah basically I'm not sure what I should do I'd rather purchase a second pair of headphones and keep my dac/amp setup any suggestions would be great. 

 

HD800 to me is just in every aspect an upgraded q701.  if you want a complement, you could realistically look into the HE-500 which will sound musical but still be very refined. the 650 is also a complement, very dark and will be quite a bit more bassy than the q701.

post #20585 of 29490
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Originally Posted by wazzupi View Post

I'm looking to get one of these headphones the hd650/hd700/hd800/he 400 my current setup is pc>dragonfly>o2 amp>q701 right now  I'm looking for something to complement my setup or just improve it overall.. I love the synergy with my setup right now if the q701 had some sub bass that would be amazing. so yeah basically I'm not sure what I should do I'd rather purchase a second pair of headphones and keep my dac/amp setup any suggestions would be great. 

 

The Sennheisers aren't exactly known for sub-bass. While I have no complaints about my HD 650, they're far from bass-head cans.

 

If those headphones you're considering, you can easily stick with your O2. That is, unless you prefer that "tube audio" sound.

post #20586 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Ball parking based on US street prices: Onkyo C-7030 CD deck (about $175 to $200); HiFiMan EF2A amp [with dac] ($169)--which mean you would then have enough to get AKG Q701, Beyer DT 880 or Senn HD 600 or 650.

 

If you want to go with an A/V receiver the Yamaha Aventage series have a good headphone section.

Thanks for the advice, i've had a look and the only way i could get the HiFiMan EF2A is buy ordering from an international seller.

do you know of any other good beginner amps i could buy in the uk?

 

Cheers in advance.


Have not idea what is available in the UK.  That said, I would have to go up in terms or US street prices to the Schiit Asgard, Matrix M-Stage and Audio-gd NFB-12.1

post #20587 of 29490
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Originally Posted by poodytang View Post


sq and genre preferences? open or closed? no one needs to know all the useless info you listed.

sorry
genre jazz, rock
closed

budget $80-200
 


Bassy cans and jazz do not mix well.  Without an amp, the Shure SRH 840, which still gives you a mid bass hump, might be right for you.

post #20588 of 29490
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Originally Posted by wazzupi View Post

I'm looking to get one of these headphones the hd650/hd700/hd800/he 400 my current setup is pc>dragonfly>o2 amp>q701 right now  I'm looking for something to complement my setup or just improve it overall.. I love the synergy with my setup right now if the q701 had some sub bass that would be amazing. so yeah basically I'm not sure what I should do I'd rather purchase a second pair of headphones and keep my dac/amp setup any suggestions would be great. 

 

The O2 is a nice little amp, but its below class when paired with the middle two cans you listed.  The HD 650 would be my choice between the remaining two.  However, I would not expect a great deal of sub bass.  Just months ago I would recommend the D2000, D5000 and/or D7000 for that.  However, Denon has discontinued them.  Outside of these Denons (especially the D5000 & D7000), I can't think of any balanced mid-fi priced can that will give you your sub bass fix.  The next step down for sub-bass would find the HD 650 and DT 880.


Edited by KG Jag - 10/24/12 at 9:38pm
post #20589 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

The O2 is a nice little amp, but its below class when paired with the middle two cans you listed.  The HD 650 would be my choice between the remaining two.  However, I would not expect a great deal of sub bass.  Just months ago I would recommend the D2000, D5000 and/or D7000 for that.  However, Denon has discontinued them.  Outside of these Denons (especially the D5000 & D7000), I can't think of any balanced mid-fi priced can that will give you your sub bass fix.  The next step down for sub-bass would find the HD 650 and DT 880.

I don't understand the difference between the hd650 and q701 which do you believe has better imaging ?

post #20590 of 29490

Hey dudes and dudettes,

 

Background:

    I'm looking for a general purpose headphone $250 max. I'm not rich. Gotta sell some shiet to justify purchase. I don't mind used.

    I come from earphones. I like plenty of detail but hate sibilance, I was never satisfied with the bass of BA drivers, need dynamics' oomph.  

 

Likes:

    TDK EB950 - u-shape, good detail but non-sibilant, non-obtrusive mid bass hump, extends low (~20Hz)

    UE TF10 - v-shape, detailed, engaging, fun, energetic

    Vsonic GR06 - non-fatiguing, good cord for portable use

    Brainwavz R1(new!) - impactful bass (tight enough with amp), decent detail, big soundstage

 

Dislikes:

    Brainwavz B2 - harsh treble, sibilant, cold, drummers on vacation, oh wait drummer's back but he's only got cymbals with bells and whistles too! 

    Xears TD II / III - every bass note sounds the same, sometimes too much bass

 

Amp:

   E10, E6, cMoyBB

 

Portability:

   Unnecessary

 

Comfort:

   Circumaural, I've got big ears (think Obama.) I want more clamping force than T50RP, 

   open/closed, don't care much, maybe open's better but need bass

 

I don't have a lot of headphones to compare to, sorry. I've used the stock T50RP, not enough detail or bass. 

I like U/V-shaped fun sig with bass > treble. Would like decent sub bass. I listen for long stretches, don't want to be too fatiguing.

I like fun over analytical, NEED decent detail, hate cold and boring. TF10's are my upper limit for detail, anymore crispness and I won't be listening for more than 10 min.

 

Me was eyeing DT990 Pro, see some around $165 used but I'm worried if it's too much detail. Are the straight cords worth +$50 for dt990 premium?

Any other suggestions are welcome.

 

I hope I answered most needed info on preference.

Cheers


Edited by randomZash - 10/24/12 at 10:54pm
post #20591 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Have not idea what is available in the UK.  That said, I would have to go up in terms or US street prices to the Schiit Asgard, Matrix M-Stage and Audio-gd NFB-12.1

Thanks again for the advice.

Turns out the choice of beginner desktop amps in the UK is pretty measly so i'll have to order either the Matrix M-Stage or the Hifiman EF2A from an international seller on ebay.  

 

Is one significantly better than the other or should i Just go for the best price.

 

Cheers in advance.

post #20592 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Davedog View Post

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Have not idea what is available in the UK.  That said, I would have to go up in terms or US street prices to the Schiit Asgard, Matrix M-Stage and Audio-gd NFB-12.1

Thanks again for the advice.

Turns out the choice of beginner desktop amps in the UK is pretty measly so i'll have to order either the Matrix M-Stage or the Hifiman EF2A from an international seller on ebay.  

 

Is one significantly better than the other or should i Just go for the best price.

 

Cheers in advance.


They are different.  In the US the EF2A is much less expensive.  It alone has a DAC.  It is a hyrid--so it has a semi tubby sound.

 

The solid state M-Stage is a better amp that comes in several flavors, which allows some customization.  Check out TamAudio, which appears to ship the M-Stage to the UK.  See:

 

http://tamaudio.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=111

 

and

 

http://tamaudio.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=36


Edited by KG Jag - 10/25/12 at 12:55am
post #20593 of 29490
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Originally Posted by wazzupi View Post

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

The O2 is a nice little amp, but its below class when paired with the middle two cans you listed.  The HD 650 would be my choice between the remaining two.  However, I would not expect a great deal of sub bass.  Just months ago I would recommend the D2000, D5000 and/or D7000 for that.  However, Denon has discontinued them.  Outside of these Denons (especially the D5000 & D7000), I can't think of any balanced mid-fi priced can that will give you your sub bass fix.  The next step down for sub-bass would find the HD 650 and DT 880.

I don't understand the difference between the hd650 and q701 which do you believe has better imaging ?


The Q701 has more detailed imaging, but some find it too artificially spread across the sound stage.  In the end their sound signatures are simply very different.  I think Tyll captures much of what the HD 650 is in his short write up naming them a member of his Wall of Fame:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-full-size-open

 

The HD 650 is a can that scales up with each level of better amps that are paired with it--although you'll have to pick the right ones at each level.

post #20594 of 29490
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Originally Posted by randomZash View Post

Hey dudes and dudettes,

 

Background:

    I'm looking for a general purpose headphone $250 max. I'm not rich. Gotta sell some shiet to justify purchase. I don't mind used.

    I come from earphones. I like plenty of detail but hate sibilance, I was never satisfied with the bass of BA drivers, need dynamics' oomph.  

 

Likes:

    TDK EB950 - u-shape, good detail but non-sibilant, non-obtrusive mid bass hump, extends low (~20Hz)

    UE TF10 - v-shape, detailed, engaging, fun, energetic

    Vsonic GR06 - non-fatiguing, good cord for portable use

    Brainwavz R1(new!) - impactful bass (tight enough with amp), decent detail, big soundstage

 

Dislikes:

    Brainwavz B2 - harsh treble, sibilant, cold, drummers on vacation, oh wait drummer's back but he's only got cymbals with bells and whistles too! 

    Xears TD II / III - every bass note sounds the same, sometimes too much bass

 

Amp:

   E10, E6, cMoyBB

 

Portability:

   Unnecessary

 

Comfort:

   Circumaural, I've got big ears (think Obama.) I want more clamping force than T50RP, 

   open/closed, don't care much, maybe open's better but need bass

 

I don't have a lot of headphones to compare to, sorry. I've used the stock T50RP, not enough detail or bass. 

I like U/V-shaped fun sig with bass > treble. Would like decent sub bass. I listen for long stretches, don't want to be too fatiguing.

I like fun over analytical, NEED decent detail, hate cold and boring. TF10's are my upper limit for detail, anymore crispness and I won't be listening for more than 10 min.

 

Me was eyeing DT990 Pro, see some around $165 used but I'm worried if it's too much detail. Are the straight cords worth +$50 for dt990 premium?

Any other suggestions are welcome.

 

I hope I answered most needed info on preference.

Cheers


Don't know any of your favorites (are they all IEM's?), but you are probably on the right track with some flavor of DT 770 or DT 990.  Check the "Deals" thread in this section of the forum.  There is group buy of the DT 990 being discussed there and time is short.

post #20595 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

Sorry--most (maybe all) of us don't know your speakers.  Please describe them and their sound signature?

Hey KG - They're very much like the Triple Fi 10's - laid back in the treble, warm midrange, decent bass.

 

I've auditioned a bunch of headphones now, from GS1000 to M50 - and the only that sounds "similar" to what I'm after is the Beyerdynamic DT770Pro (the black ones) - are there any others you guys could recommend?

EDIT: just saw your recommendation above - I found the DT990's too crashy. I know, I live in a very detailed world (haha) - but they overemphasised every cymbal hit in every song (and made Paloma Faith and Adele almost excrutiating to listen to)


Edited by PooJou - 10/25/12 at 2:52am
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