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post #20416 of 29490

I'm in the market for a $250 open-back headphone. $250 is my absolute max on price, so please don't suggest something more expensive than that. I'm looking for a quite balanced sounding headphone that offers great clarity and plenty of detail but without excessive sibilance/brightness, basically I want smooth treble. I dislike dark sounding headphones more than those with harsh treble. I have no way to test them out before buying. I've been considering the AKG Q701, Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro, and the Sennheiser HD 598. Which one is considered the best of those? And are there any others in that price range that will fit my criteria? Does the HD 598 sound anything like the HD 555? The HD 555 sounded like garbage to me, grainy and lacking detail. I have a FiiO E11 and I am eventually planning on getting a better amp.

post #20417 of 29490

Ok, for a friend, for portable use, so cant look completely silly. 70GBP is the price limit, no amp, straight from an ipod.

 

He wants lots of bass - his only ask is this - and i'm not sure what to recommend to be honest!

 

His budget is pretty tight so try to stay within it. He listens to dub, edm, electro and house primarily.

 

Thanks!

post #20418 of 29490
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

I've been considering the AKG Q701, Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro, and the Sennheiser HD 598. Which one is considered the best of those?

 

All of them. You picked three notably different headphones. They each have dedicated fans and detratctors. As they say, beauty is the the ear of the beholder.

 

 

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Does the HD 598 sound anything like the HD 555? The HD 555 sounded like garbage to me, grainy and lacking detail.

 

I haven't heard either, but the construction and materials are quite similar. Many reviewers say the sound is similar, too.

post #20419 of 29490
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

I'm in the market for a $250 open-back headphone. $250 is my absolute max on price, so please don't suggest something more expensive than that. I'm looking for a quite balanced sounding headphone that offers great clarity and plenty of detail but without excessive sibilance/brightness, basically I want smooth treble. I dislike dark sounding headphones more than those with harsh treble. I have no way to test them out before buying. I've been considering the AKG Q701, Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro, and the Sennheiser HD 598. Which one is considered the best of those? And are there any others in that price range that will fit my criteria? Does the HD 598 sound anything like the HD 555? The HD 555 sounded like garbage to me, grainy and lacking detail. I have a FiiO E11 and I am eventually planning on getting a better amp.

 

First, the HD555 and HD598 do have similarities, so if you didn't like the HD555 you probably won't be too impressed by the HD598.

 

Of the DT880 and Q701, neither is really "better" but both are very good. I think my preference would be the DT880 as it seemed a bit more musical to me than the Q701. It was also a bit more comfortable.

post #20420 of 29490

Alright I'll try to make this as clear and short as possible. I've made bold what I think is important and the questions are at the bottom.

First my budget is ~$200.00 I am willing to buy used/refurbished and spend potentially a little bit more.

Headphones I've owned: Sony MDR V700DJs, MDR 900s, Shure SE 115, SE 225 and currently SE 315 lastly my favorites Grado SR80s.

 

Sound Source: Right now is a just a normal 2012 iMac also a Sony home theater system (Nothing special can't remember the model). I also plan on purchasing a record player for some records I'm slowly collecting. Usually I have the MP3s in VBR or AAC although some I do have in 192 so if the headphones are really too good that might be something I want to know as I already can hear some of the imperfections in the MP3s I have with the SR80s and it drives me nuts.

 

Amps: Right now I have no amp, but I think I want to buy a Filo E9 to tie me over for a year or so then purchase a Schiit Valhalla/Asgard eventually.

 

Music I listen to: Radiohead I'm a huge, huge fan of. For those not familiar with them they are Rock/Electronic and tend to have very layered music. For me personally there is nothing more enjoyable than discovering a new sound/layer I had not heard before. Although I'm not sure if it's possible my main goal of buying new headphones/amp is to have this occur again. Generally I listen to rock music with lots of electronic influences that have lots of layers. Again I can't put enough emphasis that I LOVE discovering new layers/sounds.

 

I bought the V700DJs in high school ~10 years ago with a 100 dollar portable "head bangers" amp and fell in love with music all over again. Eventually they were stolen and I bought the 900s as a replacement. At first I HATED the 900s as they didn't have the bass the 700s did, but over time I realized how horribly unbalanced the 700s were and began to like the 900s more. One day I read an article about Grados and for $100 bucks I figured the SR80s were worth a shot. Words can't express how much I fell in love with those headphones. The ONLY thing I don't like about them is I they hurt my ears so much that after an couple or hours I HAVE to take a break. I think they are vastly better than the 900s and also the Shure SE 315s that I have. Now for what they are the Shure SE 315s are good as the Grados would be rather lousy at the gym ect, but the overall sound of the SR80s is at least 3x better than any other headphone I've ever used IMO.

 

Question 1: Should I invest in an amp before I buy a new set of headphones and just use my SR80s in the mean time? If so are the Valhalla/Asgard as good as I've read for ~$200-300 or are there better options for the price?

 

Question 2: If I love the SR80s should I just stick with Grado and get the 225 or 325s? I've heard lots of mixed things some people even say although the 225s and 325s are technically better, but the 80s are still their favorite and I don't want to spend 200 or 300 bucks on headphones that are not CLEARLY better than my SR80s.

 

Question 3: Should I try something other than Grados? If so I'm debating between the HD598s, DT 880s (not sure which resistance I should get though) and the AKG 701 or 702s not sure which model to get. Also open to other suggestions.

 

If anyone takes the time to read all of this I really appreciate it.


Edited by ChrisGST - 10/20/12 at 2:27pm
post #20421 of 29490

I guess I'll cross the HD 598 off my list then since it's something I'm unsure about. I really liked what I've heard of AKG so far. Only problem is that even though my AKG K514 MKII sounds amazing for the price, it has sibilance issues, so listening to them much above low or moderate volumes isn't very pleasant when vocals are concerned, especially from my ipod. I just want to stop buying anymore headphones for a long period of time and I felt actually saving and buying a good pair of headphones will satisfy me finally. I've heard many good things about both and I'm considering both about equally. I see, that's different than what a friend of mine said, she said the Q701 is more musical and enjoyable than the DT 880, so I guess that may depend on which sounds better to my ears. Too bad I can't try them out to see which is the more enjoyable of the two for me.

post #20422 of 29490

So, I have another question! If I was to use the mdr-7506 Sony headphones, will the TurtleBeach Dolby Surround Sound Processor(DSS) work well with them? I can get a used pair for like 30 bucks which seems pretty good. But I wanted to know if there are better options within the same price range (give or take $20). I know a lot of people say the astro mixamp is great, but that's kind of outta my price range for an amp.  Also, how well does the TB DSS work with amps? I couldn't really find much about it.

 

Any advice would be very much appreciated, thanks.

post #20423 of 29490
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

I'm in the market for a $250 open-back headphone. $250 is my absolute max on price, so please don't suggest something more expensive than that. I'm looking for a quite balanced sounding headphone that offers great clarity and plenty of detail but without excessive sibilance/brightness, basically I want smooth treble. I dislike dark sounding headphones more than those with harsh treble. I have no way to test them out before buying. I've been considering the AKG Q701, Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro, and the Sennheiser HD 598. Which one is considered the best of those? And are there any others in that price range that will fit my criteria? Does the HD 598 sound anything like the HD 555? The HD 555 sounded like garbage to me, grainy and lacking detail. I have a FiiO E11 and I am eventually planning on getting a better amp.

 

First, the HD555 and HD598 do have similarities, so if you didn't like the HD555 you probably won't be too impressed by the HD598.

 

Of the DT880 and Q701, neither is really "better" but both are very good. I think my preference would be the DT880 as it seemed a bit more musical to me than the Q701. It was also a bit more comfortable.


We're on the same page here.  However, for me the Q701 is noticably more comfortable.  The DT 880 has smallish ear cups that are just big enough for me.

 

Between the two with regard to sound, it just comes down to what flavor of ice cream you like better.  For max sound stage, just a bit more clarity to hear each musical voice and best with movies, go with the Q701.  For a more classic audiophile can with better bass, but also a bit bright--go with the DT 880.  I love what both offer in this segment of the market.

 

All that said, I thought that the HD 598 best met the stated preferences of 1211.  The 598 clarity is less than the other two, but it's not bad.  Plus no Senn in this line will ever hurt normal ears with its highs.

post #20424 of 29490
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

I've heard many good things about both and I'm considering both about equally. I see, that's different than what a friend of mine said, she said the Q701 is more musical and enjoyable than the DT 880, so I guess that may depend on which sounds better to my ears. Too bad I can't try them out to see which is the more enjoyable of the two for me.

 

Why not? Order them both and send one back. That's what I do. Once you get this far in the decision making process, there's no extra amount of information you can read that's going to be anywhere near as helpful as hearing them. Just make sure you are dealing with places that have a good reputation for returning items. 

post #20425 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


We're on the same page here.  However, for me the Q701 is noticably more comfortable.  The DT 880 has smallish ear cups that are just big enough for me.

 

Between the two with regard to sound, it just comes down to what flavor of ice cream you like better.  For max sound stage, just a bit more clarity to hear each musical voice and best with movies, go with the Q701.  For a more classic audiophile can with better bass, but also a bit bright--go with the DT 880.  I love what both offer in this segment of the market.

 

All that said, I thought that the HD 598 best met the stated preferences of 1211.  The 598 clarity is less than the other two, but it's not bad.  Plus no Senn in this line will ever hurt normal ears with its highs.

Well said. I only recommended against the 598 because he didn't like the 555, so it's hard to recommend another similar Sennheiser. If he were asking about the 600 or 650 it would be different, but I found the 555 and 598 quite similar in their sound signature while the 598 did everything just slightly better.

post #20426 of 29490
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post

I'm in the market for a $250 open-back headphone. $250 is my absolute max on price, so please don't suggest something more expensive than that. I'm looking for a quite balanced sounding headphone that offers great clarity and plenty of detail but without excessive sibilance/brightness, basically I want smooth treble. I dislike dark sounding headphones more than those with harsh treble. I have no way to test them out before buying. I've been considering the AKG Q701, Beyerdynamic DT 880 Pro, and the Sennheiser HD 598. Which one is considered the best of those? And are there any others in that price range that will fit my criteria? Does the HD 598 sound anything like the HD 555? The HD 555 sounded like garbage to me, grainy and lacking detail. I have a FiiO E11 and I am eventually planning on getting a better amp.

Try for a used hd600. For balance and clarity for the price the can't be beat. And i certainly wouldn't call them dark, laid back yes, dark no. My personal favorite in my experiences thus far.

post #20427 of 29490

I don't mind if a headphone is a bit bright, actually I want to a headphones to be more neutral or slightly bright. I just don't want headphones to have piercing sibilance, I can handle some sibilance, but when it's overdone I can't. I found the Sennheisers I've listened to to be too tame for my tastes, they sound fine but they are not my cup of tea, I've been told the HD 800 is different but that is way out of my price range. I guess I want a more analytical sound that isn't too rough on the ears. I tend to game, watch movies and tv shows, and listen to all sorts of music. I'm not too picky about bass as long as it's good quality.


Edited by kman1211 - 10/20/12 at 4:45pm
post #20428 of 29490

Let me explain my current situation:

I am looking for a high end closed in the 700 dollar price range. I will be listening to rock and metal, so I need something aggressive. Most people recommend the HD-25, but I want something technically superior, meaning I want something hi-fi (clarity, details, good soundstage, refined). I had an M50 but I thought it was fun, but the sound quality was bad, it didn't impress me. Would it be a good idea to get the most technically superior closed headphone and just EQ it to match my style? That way I can have a fun/aggressive AND refined sound.

The headphone I had in mind was the beyer T 70p, since it has a hi-fi sound, clarity, and good soundstage. I could boost the bass up for metal and customize the sound to my preference. Would all of this be a good idea? What would be the most refined and technically superior headphone in this price range?


Edited by daniel521 - 10/20/12 at 8:35pm
post #20429 of 29490

Do you guys have a suggestion for a full size headphone? they can be open or closed, I have the budget of around say 300-400 ? I would be using them at home on a lapto (I have my dt1350 as a portable), I would be using fiio e17 for them as a DAC and Amp . I want something with alot of comfort featured into it , I don't want it to be that large either. Anything you guys reccomend? I listen mostly to jpops , rock, I am looking generally on the comfort factor of it , of course sound quality would be important too.

 

Note: DT1350 sits around 3/5 of my ear to give you an image of the area the headphone should cover I guess?

post #20430 of 29490

Hi K-

My son is just getting into headphones too and a great place to start is Audio Techna ATH-M40fs. I am listening too them right now through an Fiio E10 USB DAC/amp. You will not need an amp as an ipod or phone will easily drive them. Do consider the US$60 as your first upgrade if listening at on a computer- it is another outstanding value. You can get the M40s on Amazon for US$51- that is a whole lot of headphone for the money and a good place to start. By the way the most important thing for sound quality will be the format you use to encode your music. I like a lossless codec (Apple lossless or Free losless ((ALAC or FLAC respectively)) rather than MP3). You will find LOTS of information on that here by people with extensive knowledge on the subject.

 

Cheers!

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