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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

It might be the way they amped the headphones, the Senn HD558s (50-Ohm) "might" perform better with say a higher impedance source.

Where the headphones hooked up to something like an mp3 player, or some hidden headphone amplifier?

 

 

After some more research and lurking on the forums, I decided to go with a pair of Ultrasone Pro 900s. They're listed as having pretty good bass and they were marked down 45% on amazon so I jumped on it. Can't wait for em to come in!

post #20252 of 29490
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Originally Posted by poodytang View Post


Reviews are not objective, go audition everything you can before making a purchase.

Got it. But I don't know where do audition these headphones:   :(

 

 
-AKG K550
-Beyerdynamic DT 880
-Shure SRH940
-Denon D2000
-Fostex T50rp 
 
I live in Oakdale, CA by the way.
post #20253 of 29490
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Originally Posted by FrozenFlame View Post

Got it. But I don't know where do audition these headphones:   frown.gif

 
-AKG K550
-Beyerdynamic DT 880
-Shure SRH940
-Denon D2000
-Fostex T50rp 
 
I live in Oakdale, CA by the way.

I'm almost certain there should be an audio shop where you live. Just google.
post #20254 of 29490
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Originally Posted by FrozenFlame View Post

Got it. But I don't know where do audition these headphones:   :(

 

 
-AKG K550
-Beyerdynamic DT 880
-Shure SRH940
-Denon D2000
-Fostex T50rp 
 
I live in Oakdale, CA by the way.

For the Fostex T50rp, you need to either mod it yourself, or purchase a pre-modded pair such as the Mad Dog. Unfortunately I know this doesn't solve your problem of trying to test the different headphones. I thought the stock T50rp sounded pretty bleh, but once a few mods have been done it is easily competes with the other headphones you are considering.

post #20255 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Davedog View Post

I've decided to buy a portable amp before i spend hundreds of my pounds on new cans (which i will do anyway)

At the moment I've got a pair of sennheiser HD25 and I'm thinking about buying some HD 598s in the future.

I say portable amp but it will spend most of it's time plugged into my laptop and also my phone (HTC incredible S)

I'm considering the  FiiO E11 or Electric Avenues PA2V2 but i don't want to spend more than £60 at most ($95)

If you approve or have better suggestions please say so.

(If it matters I listen to just about every genre bar Rap.)

 

Cheers in advance.

 

If you just want to use it off your computer I'd recommend the E10. Great dac, price considered, and the amp ought be good enough for hd 25's.

post #20256 of 29490

Hey all,

 

I could really use peoples' thoughts with this one. With a small surplus of cash I recently got, I'd like to make improvements to my current little home/portable 'rig.' What I normally do is run a mix of Apple Lossless and files in the 256-320kbps range out from my computer into my little Fiio E6 to my ATH-M50's. The portable version of that is playing those 256-320 songs through the line out of my 16gig iPhone. I mean, it's decent-sounding, but I believe it's time for an update. I'm trying to get something going that I can use both at home and on the go. I don't really care for convenience factor too much. I was primarily looking for a headphone recommendation, as I already have in mind the Fiio E7 (as a DAC) and an iPod classic 120gig so that I could actually store my lossless files. I hear the E7 is great for the price, and that the line out of the iPod classic is pretty good and, of course, the massive storage space is a huge 1-up. 

As for the cans...oh boy. As the ATH-M50's are closed-back, I'm looking for an open-back set. I tried the Q701's at my local Best Buy, and found them a tad 'analytical' as they say. It didn't really sound like I was listening to a musical performance, rather, it sounded like I was examining the individual tracks by themselves. I'm looking for something a little warmer, and the Sennheiser line seems to have a pretty decent set of cans that have that 'warm signature' to them. I was eye-balling the HD-598's mainly, since that's about my price range ($300 or so). Something along those lines is what I'm looking for; headphones that have an overall warm sound to them, yet maintain enough clarity to distinguish everything and so it doesn't sound all muddy. Almost forgot to mention music preference, which is primarily rock music (any kind of rock), but I also enjoy classical music and jazz pretty often. 

 

This post wouldn't really matter if I didn't want to hear peoples' thoughts. What do you guys think? The Sennheiser 598s coupled with the Fiio E7 running lossless/320kbps files out of an iPod classic on the go and a computer at home. Would you guys recommend anything different based on what I said above? All opinions would be welcome and appreciated :) 

post #20257 of 29490
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Originally Posted by axc1080 View Post

Hey all,

 

I could really use peoples' thoughts with this one. With a small surplus of cash I recently got, I'd like to make improvements to my current little home/portable 'rig.' What I normally do is run a mix of Apple Lossless and files in the 256-320kbps range out from my computer into my little Fiio E6 to my ATH-M50's. The portable version of that is playing those 256-320 songs through the line out of my 16gig iPhone. I mean, it's decent-sounding, but I believe it's time for an update. I'm trying to get something going that I can use both at home and on the go. I don't really care for convenience factor too much. I was primarily looking for a headphone recommendation, as I already have in mind the Fiio E7 (as a DAC) and an iPod classic 120gig so that I could actually store my lossless files. I hear the E7 is great for the price, and that the line out of the iPod classic is pretty good and, of course, the massive storage space is a huge 1-up. 

As for the cans...oh boy. As the ATH-M50's are closed-back, I'm looking for an open-back set. I tried the Q701's at my local Best Buy, and found them a tad 'analytical' as they say. It didn't really sound like I was listening to a musical performance, rather, it sounded like I was examining the individual tracks by themselves. I'm looking for something a little warmer, and the Sennheiser line seems to have a pretty decent set of cans that have that 'warm signature' to them. I was eye-balling the HD-598's mainly, since that's about my price range ($300 or so). Something along those lines is what I'm looking for; headphones that have an overall warm sound to them, yet maintain enough clarity to distinguish everything and so it doesn't sound all muddy. Almost forgot to mention music preference, which is primarily rock music (any kind of rock), but I also enjoy classical music and jazz pretty often. 

 

This post wouldn't really matter if I didn't want to hear peoples' thoughts. What do you guys think? The Sennheiser 598s coupled with the Fiio E7 running lossless/320kbps files out of an iPod classic on the go and a computer at home. Would you guys recommend anything different based on what I said above? All opinions would be welcome and appreciated :) 


the Q701 is very selective of genre, it sounds thin on almost every genre except classical and to an extent jazz. from that price range, hd598 seems to be what you're looking for.

post #20258 of 29490
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Originally Posted by axc1080 View Post

Hey all,

 

I could really use peoples' thoughts with this one. With a small surplus of cash I recently got, I'd like to make improvements to my current little home/portable 'rig.' What I normally do is run a mix of Apple Lossless and files in the 256-320kbps range out from my computer into my little Fiio E6 to my ATH-M50's. The portable version of that is playing those 256-320 songs through the line out of my 16gig iPhone. I mean, it's decent-sounding, but I believe it's time for an update. I'm trying to get something going that I can use both at home and on the go. I don't really care for convenience factor too much. I was primarily looking for a headphone recommendation, as I already have in mind the Fiio E7 (as a DAC) and an iPod classic 120gig so that I could actually store my lossless files. I hear the E7 is great for the price, and that the line out of the iPod classic is pretty good and, of course, the massive storage space is a huge 1-up. 

As for the cans...oh boy. As the ATH-M50's are closed-back, I'm looking for an open-back set. I tried the Q701's at my local Best Buy, and found them a tad 'analytical' as they say. It didn't really sound like I was listening to a musical performance, rather, it sounded like I was examining the individual tracks by themselves. I'm looking for something a little warmer, and the Sennheiser line seems to have a pretty decent set of cans that have that 'warm signature' to them. I was eye-balling the HD-598's mainly, since that's about my price range ($300 or so). Something along those lines is what I'm looking for; headphones that have an overall warm sound to them, yet maintain enough clarity to distinguish everything and so it doesn't sound all muddy. Almost forgot to mention music preference, which is primarily rock music (any kind of rock), but I also enjoy classical music and jazz pretty often. 

 

This post wouldn't really matter if I didn't want to hear peoples' thoughts. What do you guys think? The Sennheiser 598s coupled with the Fiio E7 running lossless/320kbps files out of an iPod classic on the go and a computer at home. Would you guys recommend anything different based on what I said above? All opinions would be welcome and appreciated :) 

The HD598s were the first thing that came to mind as I started reading. It is a friendly sound that makes most recordings sound good, whereas the Q701 is analytical and will show you if a recording is poor. I think the 598 will suit you quite well. You could also look into the HD558 and do the foam mod to end up with a headphone very similar to the 598 but for cheaper. The E7 is alright. I used it, but when you move to a slightly higher budget the difference is really noticeable. I used the HRT Headstreamer after I sold my E7 and it was significantly better. I don't know how much you are willing to spend, but the HD558 ($180) + HRT Headstreamer ($140) would be nice, though the E7 would probably be fine as well.

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Two years ago I think I was in a very similar situation. The M50s were my first cans, and I was looking for an upgrade. Tried my friend's HD595 and they gave me goosebumps. I would've gotten them but the plastic cracking issue (notorious back then) as well as the fact that I wanted closed cans led me to the D5ks.

 

There's a chance you might find them a bit laid back. I say try and demo them if you can.

post #20260 of 29490
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Originally Posted by hipster2010 View Post

For the Fostex T50rp, you need to either mod it yourself, or purchase a pre-modded pair such as the Mad Dog. Unfortunately I know this doesn't solve your problem of trying to test the different headphones. I thought the stock T50rp sounded pretty bleh, but once a few mods have been done it is easily competes with the other headphones you are considering.

The Dt 880s are actually very nice, I have em I love em and they happen to love them selvs some jazz <3

post #20261 of 29490
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Originally Posted by axc1080 View Post

Hey all,

 

I could really use peoples' thoughts with this one. With a small surplus of cash I recently got, I'd like to make improvements to my current little home/portable 'rig.' What I normally do is run a mix of Apple Lossless and files in the 256-320kbps range out from my computer into my little Fiio E6 to my ATH-M50's. The portable version of that is playing those 256-320 songs through the line out of my 16gig iPhone. I mean, it's decent-sounding, but I believe it's time for an update. I'm trying to get something going that I can use both at home and on the go. I don't really care for convenience factor too much. I was primarily looking for a headphone recommendation, as I already have in mind the Fiio E7 (as a DAC) and an iPod classic 120gig so that I could actually store my lossless files. I hear the E7 is great for the price, and that the line out of the iPod classic is pretty good and, of course, the massive storage space is a huge 1-up. 

As for the cans...oh boy. As the ATH-M50's are closed-back, I'm looking for an open-back set. I tried the Q701's at my local Best Buy, and found them a tad 'analytical' as they say. It didn't really sound like I was listening to a musical performance, rather, it sounded like I was examining the individual tracks by themselves. I'm looking for something a little warmer, and the Sennheiser line seems to have a pretty decent set of cans that have that 'warm signature' to them. I was eye-balling the HD-598's mainly, since that's about my price range ($300 or so). Something along those lines is what I'm looking for; headphones that have an overall warm sound to them, yet maintain enough clarity to distinguish everything and so it doesn't sound all muddy. Almost forgot to mention music preference, which is primarily rock music (any kind of rock), but I also enjoy classical music and jazz pretty often. 

 

This post wouldn't really matter if I didn't want to hear peoples' thoughts. What do you guys think? The Sennheiser 598s coupled with the Fiio E7 running lossless/320kbps files out of an iPod classic on the go and a computer at home. Would you guys recommend anything different based on what I said above? All opinions would be welcome and appreciated :) 

The HD 598 is probably the best choice for what you want within your budget.  The one slight negative about them in your context is that they are slightly veiled.

 

In your case, you are probably correct about the Q701.  In general however, listening to the Q701 at places like Best Buy will not necessarily give you a good read.  They need an amp and are somewhat pickly about which one.  I happen to very much like the Q701 for all genres, except for the bass heavy ones--which aren't my thing anyway.  And I Ifind them to be great with with movies--thanks to their sound stage and clarity.

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Originally Posted by hipster2010 View Post

The HD598s were the first thing that came to mind as I started reading. It is a friendly sound that makes most recordings sound good, whereas the Q701 is analytical and will show you if a recording is poor. I think the 598 will suit you quite well. You could also look into the HD558 and do the foam mod to end up with a headphone very similar to the 598 but for cheaper. The E7 is alright. I used it, but when you move to a slightly higher budget the difference is really noticeable. I used the HRT Headstreamer after I sold my E7 and it was significantly better. I don't know how much you are willing to spend, but the HD558 ($180) + HRT Headstreamer ($140) would be nice, though the E7 would probably be fine as well.

 

Well, if I gave up getting the iPod classic, I could afford the HRT. I'll look into that scenario, if the difference is as noticeable as you say. Sure, I wouldn't be able to take my lossless files on the go, but eh. It seems like a decent trade-off in the long run. Many thanks, good sir, and also thanks to viralcow and poodytang for both of your inputs as well :) 

post #20263 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

The HD 598 is probably the best choice for what you want within your budget.  The one slight negative about them in your context is that they are slightly veiled.

 

In your case, you are probably correct about the Q701.  In general however, listening to the Q701 at places like Best Buy will not necessarily give you a good read.  They need an amp and are somewhat pickly about which one.  I happen to very much like the Q701 for all genres, except for the bass heavy ones--which aren't my thing anyway.  And I Ifind them to be great with with movies--thanks to their sound stage and clarity.

Actually, at my Best Buy I used them with the Fiio E6 and the LOD cable for my iPhone. It was pretty decent, but yea that wide soundstage just isn't my thing. I'm not too big on the 'veil' concept (Especially when I'm listening to heavier music like Protest the Hero, Periphery or even Tool (bands with distortion). I really love that distinguishable 'crunch' that clear cans seem to give. If you could maybe put the veil factor on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being crystal clear and 10 being horribly muffled?  

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Originally Posted by axc1080 View Post

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

The HD 598 is probably the best choice for what you want within your budget.  The one slight negative about them in your context is that they are slightly veiled.

 

In your case, you are probably correct about the Q701.  In general however, listening to the Q701 at places like Best Buy will not necessarily give you a good read.  They need an amp and are somewhat pickly about which one.  I happen to very much like the Q701 for all genres, except for the bass heavy ones--which aren't my thing anyway.  And I Ifind them to be great with with movies--thanks to their sound stage and clarity.

Actually, at my Best Buy I used them with the Fiio E6 and the LOD cable for my iPhone. It was pretty decent, but yea that wide soundstage just isn't my thing. I'm not too big on the 'veil' concept (Especially when I'm listening to heavier music like Protest the Hero, Periphery or even Tool (bands with distortion). I really love that distinguishable 'crunch' that clear cans seem to give. If you could maybe put the veil factor on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being crystal clear and 10 being horribly muffled?  

The Q701 and Beyer DT 880 are in the 9 or 10 range in this price class.  I'd put the HD 598 at about 7 or maybe a fraction under a 7.

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Originally Posted by axc1080 View Post

Actually, at my Best Buy I used them with the Fiio E6 and the LOD cable for my iPhone. It was pretty decent, but yea that wide soundstage just isn't my thing. I'm not too big on the 'veil' concept (Especially when I'm listening to heavier music like Protest the Hero, Periphery or even Tool (bands with distortion). I really love that distinguishable 'crunch' that clear cans seem to give. If you could maybe put the veil factor on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being crystal clear and 10 being horribly muffled?  

Beyerdynamic dt880, superb for metal at the price range and will sound fuller than the q701. Since its so balanced, it'll actually work for a variety of genres as well.
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