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post #19576 of 29490

About the HD 518 and dark sounding headphones

 

I love my original HD 205 for its sound. It does exactly what I want and how Id want the music to sound. I just want something ''better'' because I feel Im becoming an audiophile, on a very tight budget though!

 

According to Headroom, the HD 518 indeed is darker than the HD 558. But the HD 449, defined as neutral, loses terrain compared to the 518.

So, er, is the HD 518 as dark sounding as it is believed to sound? Or is it just neutral with some extended bass? 

 

Link to graph: http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=493&graphID[]=2841&graphID[]=2861&graphID[]=3751

post #19577 of 29490
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Originally Posted by veyrongatti View Post

It is an Onear headphone with a V shaped sound signiture It also has extremely smooth female vocals ^^ 

I'll have to see if I can find a pair to demo then. Gotta love them female vocals :P. Thanks!

post #19578 of 29490

Finally tested the he400 rev3 and dt990 pro 250 ohm. Impression so far based on my ear, sorry if its not the same like you all.
Comfort wise the 990 pro is almost the same as the 770 pro, just clamp harder a little. If the 770 is 10/10, the 990 is 9.5/10.
The he 400 clamp is surprisingly comfy, less than the 650 but just a bit more than the 990. Too bad its heavy. However, the weight is not major issue to me. At least the cup is bigger than my ear, unlike the m50. 8.5/10 for the comfort.
Sound, I cant describe it as detailed as the pro here, but here is mine.
First he400, 1st I notice is the treble, its even more than my m50. Bass is powerfull too, just a bit more than the m50. The vocal and instrument are forward and clear, with good details.
Dt990, treble and bass are over emphasized, but the vocal and instrument seems more laid back and got less details. The sound is faster than hifiman, but still the 650 is the slowest of 3. Soundstage is wide, but the he400 got a decent amount too.
While the he 400 seems brighter on my ear, but i find the 990 is more tiring. Probably because the over bass and treble?
Conclusion, i just ordered the he400 and velour pad. Must wait 10 days, since its national holidays for a week here in hk and china. 650 while tempting, but its just too much more investment for me compared the he400.
Funny thing is the chinese name for hifiman, 真男人 or true gentleman...
Cant wait for it. Will be the longest 10 days. Hope it can satisfy my gaming and music need.
 

post #19579 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Doc-holliday View Post


Hi the dt990 is great but why not consider the dt770? I would imagine you would want more "impact" from the bass with your kind of music. Well i think in either case you will not be disappointed. I digress.....
If you are using these at home there is no need to get a portable amp like the e11. It would be a hasstle to make sure the battery is always charged. It also only puts out a max of 45mw to a headphone that can be run upto 100mw. Dont get me wrong i run my 250 ohm headphones just fine on an e11 but again you should get a nice dac/amp combo to get the most out of your cans.
This one is highly recommended for the price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIRE-PHOENIX-DAC-02-CS4398-LM4562-MINI-USB-DAC-Headphone-Amplifier-/180738679826?pt=US_Pro_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item2a14dd6412
It will be like a "sound card" plus headphone amp in one. You can connect it via usb but the preferred method is via optical cable.
The 770/990 can be had for 200ish on amazon plus the above dac/amp 100 = within ur budget of $300 max.


Thanks for the suggestions!! You were a great help. I was under the impression the DT990 had the more impactful base, but that wouldn't really be the case with closed headphones considering none of the sound will be leaking out.

 

I went ahead and ordered both the DT770 and the Amp you suggested. The amp will take a little to get here, but I'm definitely excited to have my first set of nice headphones. 

 

Unfortunately my ZS 2 is a really old model (I might be mistaken on the exact model, but I did get the soundcard back in 2006-2007 I think) and doesn't have an optical input, so I'll be forced to go with onboard sound. I'm assuming the amp will drive the headphones well enough? Or should I look around for a solid soundcard to get in the future?

 

Thanks again.

post #19580 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Ruben123 View Post

About the HD 518 and dark sounding headphones

 

I love my original HD 205 for its sound. It does exactly what I want and how Id want the music to sound. I just want something ''better'' because I feel Im becoming an audiophile, on a very tight budget though!

 

According to Headroom, the HD 518 indeed is darker than the HD 558. But the HD 449, defined as neutral, loses terrain compared to the 518.

So, er, is the HD 518 as dark sounding as it is believed to sound? Or is it just neutral with some extended bass? 

 

Link to graph: http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=493&graphID[]=2841&graphID[]=2861&graphID[]=3751

The 518 has more bass and less treble & sound stage than the 558.  It is an excellent can and the entry level to Senn's audiophile line.  This is the most comprehensive and probably the best review of the 518 that I have read:

 

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sennheiser-hd-518_Headphones_review_sound-quality-value-and-verdict_Page-2#tr-review-summary

 

Cans (like race horses) are generally compared to others in their same class.  The 449 is a closed headphone and is part of a line of products that is considered to be below the 5x8 line.

post #19581 of 29490

hey, so right now i have some sennheiser 580s

 

i mostly listen to electronic dance music and indie rock, so i wanted to get something (closed) with a bit more bass, but doesn't totally neglect mids

 

so far the denon d7000s are looking pretty good to me, but i was wondering if anybody had any other suggestions 

post #19582 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Marclivis View Post

Thanks for the suggestions!!
You are very welcome. I think i speak for everyone on here when i say not enough people actually report back as to what they decided to do with suggestions. So thanks and i hope you enjoy your rig.

Edit. Sorry, missed the additional question... Yea try out the usb first and if you are happy then you are happy..... If you think you can get more out of it get a card later with optical out. Enjoy
Edited by Doc-holliday - 9/30/12 at 1:10pm
post #19583 of 29490

Well, I'm back again.  Previously posted, but I've decided that I'd be willing to bump my budget up to $250 and I've refined my criteria somewhat .  Here's a summary of my needs:

 

  • I prefer a balanced sound with some emphasis on bass
  • I like having a wide soundstage, and I guess I prefer fun/immersion to monitoring accuracy
  • I have a large head and want something I can wear for hours
  • I would prefer something closed so I can listen at work, but if need be I'll go open and use them only at home
  • If closed, I'd be using them with a 4th gen iPod touch and Fiio E11
  • Music genres are rock, instrumental (big band, classical, etc), J-pop, electronica mainly
  • Already have a Titanium HD and AD700s that I use for gaming, will use these for music and movies/shows

 

 

Music examples:  Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Eric Johnson and anime/video game soundtracks like the following:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKAP1BmRs3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKV195eXg7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZbUnu8WBn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2UtFr53I0c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbsAyGQ0k_U

 

 

I was initially interested in the A900X as they seem like a step up from the AD700s, but I think I'd rather go for something noticeably different.  The DT 990s seem interesting since they're described as fun, but they seem like they might be a bit harsh at times and I would kind of like something closed.


Edited by aak57 - 9/30/12 at 2:16pm
post #19584 of 29490

I listen mainly to Rock/Metal/Blues and a bit of Jazz/Classical. I am about to buy the the Grado SR325is after a lot of deliberation. I have a Pana HJE900 as my main IEM right now and I am pretty happy with it. I am just looking for something different. I travel close to around 3 hours daily. My main usage would be in the office and at home. Should I go for a closed headphone like the HD-25 so that I can travel with them or should I stick with the Grado? Will the Grado sound so much better than any phone on the market for the music I listen to?

post #19585 of 29490
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Originally Posted by rotter2142 View Post

I listen mainly to Rock/Metal/Blues and a bit of Jazz/Classical. I am about to buy the the Grado SR325is after a lot of deliberation. I have a Pana HJE900 as my main IEM right now and I am pretty happy with it. I am just looking for something different. I travel close to around 3 hours daily. My main usage would be in the office and at home. Should I go for a closed headphone like the HD-25 so that I can travel with them or should I stick with the Grado? Will the Grado sound so much better than any phone on the market for the music I listen to?

 

grados are known for having an aggressive and intimate sound signature, and the sr325i are especially so. funnily enough, i've tried the sr60, sr80i, and sr125i and owned sr225i, but never heard the 325i. however, from what i have read, they are screechy even for a grado and only after extensive modding (DIY or symphones) do they become very good and justifiable for the price. if you're going to be listening at the office, i suppose you would want a closed headphone. my personal suggestion would be the dt1350, which has balanced, reference sound housed in a small portable headphone.

post #19586 of 29490
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Originally Posted by rotter2142 View Post

I listen mainly to Rock/Metal/Blues and a bit of Jazz/Classical. I am about to buy the the Grado SR325is after a lot of deliberation. I have a Pana HJE900 as my main IEM right now and I am pretty happy with it. I am just looking for something different. I travel close to around 3 hours daily. My main usage would be in the office and at home. Should I go for a closed headphone like the HD-25 so that I can travel with them or should I stick with the Grado? Will the Grado sound so much better than any phone on the market for the music I listen to?

If you want them for office use or travel, I would go towards a closed phone like the DT1350 poodytang mentioned. The grado will leak a lot of sound, so if there are others around your office, they might not be too happy. It also won't isolate much, so if there is a lot of outside noise when you travel, you will have to turn the volume up louder to hear your music (leaking more sound).

post #19587 of 29490
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Originally Posted by aak57 View Post

Well, I'm back again.  Previously posted, but I've decided that I'd be willing to bump my budget up to $250 and I've refined my criteria somewhat .  Here's a summary of my needs:

 

  • I prefer a balanced sound with some emphasis on bass
  • I like having a wide soundstage, and I guess I prefer fun/immersion to monitoring accuracy
  • I have a large head and want something I can wear for hours
  • I would prefer something closed so I can listen at work, but if need be I'll go open and use them only at home
  • If closed, I'd be using them with a 4th gen iPod touch and Fiio E11
  • Music genres are rock, instrumental (big band, classical, etc), J-pop, electronica mainly
  • Already have a Titanium HD and AD700s that I use for gaming, will use these for music and movies/shows

 

 

Music examples:  Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Eric Johnson and anime/video game soundtracks like the following:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKAP1BmRs3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKV195eXg7I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZbUnu8WBn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2UtFr53I0c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbsAyGQ0k_U

 

 

I was initially interested in the A900X as they seem like a step up from the AD700s, but I think I'd rather go for something noticeably different.  The DT 990s seem interesting since they're described as fun, but they seem like they might be a bit harsh at times and I would kind of like something closed.

 

Audition the denon d2000's. probably will work out for you.

post #19588 of 29490
I second the ah-d2000's. isolation is not there strong suit but they posses all of your listed requirements and more.
post #19589 of 29490
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Originally Posted by undercover View Post

hey, so right now i have some sennheiser 580s

 

i mostly listen to electronic dance music and indie rock, so i wanted to get something (closed) with a bit more bass, but doesn't totally neglect mids

 

so far the denon d7000s are looking pretty good to me, but i was wondering if anybody had any other suggestions 


The D7000 is a great can--if you can still find one; better yet find one at a reasonable price.

post #19590 of 29490
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Originally Posted by rotter2142 View Post

I listen mainly to Rock/Metal/Blues and a bit of Jazz/Classical. I am about to buy the the Grado SR325is after a lot of deliberation. I have a Pana HJE900 as my main IEM right now and I am pretty happy with it. I am just looking for something different. I travel close to around 3 hours daily. My main usage would be in the office and at home. Should I go for a closed headphone like the HD-25 so that I can travel with them or should I stick with the Grado? Will the Grado sound so much better than any phone on the market for the music I listen to?


Don't know your IEM's but the open Grado leaks far to much to use while commuting.  Assuming you will not be using an amp, the full sized KRK KNS 8400 and Shure SRH 840 are good choices.  When it comes to portable cans, the Senn HD 25-1 II and the more expensive (at least in the U.S.) Beyer DT 1350 are great cans.

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