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Yeah, i was looking into the fiio e17 but i was still looking around because thats quite a bit lower than my $600 budget, so i wanted to see if there was anything better. I mean, if i get the he-400's i have an extra $200 to spend on amp/dac (which will most likely be the e17) but if i get the mad dogs i have $300 to spend 

 

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If I decide on the he400, I'll probably get that and the e11 then

 

are you sure you want to lug your he-400's around? they're open cans that are quite heavy... if you were looking for a home setup, i would recommend the hifiman EF2A, top notch amp and decent dac for 170$.

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If I decide on the he400, I'll probably get that and the e11 then.

In a similar price range to the head streamer is the ODAC which I would recommend you look at too, especially if you need usb input.

 

Edit: just saw you want portable?  I don't think ODAC won't work for you then


Edited by hipster2010 - 9/25/12 at 8:13pm
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@DarthUnnamed:

 

Yeah I didn't realize you were going for a portable rig. The HRT MSII is pretty small but isn't the most portable DAC out there. For example, its outputs are RCA, not 3.5mm mini-jack. And I agree with poodytang, the cans you are looking at aren't the most portable (but would be awesome for a home setup).

post #19339 of 29490
Sorry to be completely off topic but since you guys are talking about it have either of you tried this "fire phoneix" that dsnuts keeps raving about?
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Sorry to be completely off topic but since you guys are talking about it have either of you tried this "fire phoneix" that dsnuts keeps raving about?

I haven't read a Dsnuts thread in awhile, but have been happy with his past recommendations. I'll read up on this "fire phoenix" to see what it is. Thanks for the heads up

post #19341 of 29490
Yeah, for the mad dogs (if I get them) I will get a portable rig, and a home rig for the he400s (again, if I get them). Still unsure which to get, tbh. The difference is mostly closed or open, so I'm still unsure.
post #19342 of 29490
I think I've made the decision to get the he-400, for home use. What amp/dac should I get for $200? (Oh, and I'm not COMPLETELY sure yet on the he400, so keep it up with the recommendations)
post #19343 of 29490
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Originally Posted by DarthUnnamed View Post

I think I've made the decision to get the he-400, for home use. What amp/dac should I get for $200? (Oh, and I'm not COMPLETELY sure yet on the he400, so keep it up with the recommendations)

 

As i said earlier, the hifiman EF2A is a very good dac/amp combo for 170$ which i personally feel to be one of if not the best in the sub 200$ price bracket. with the remaining 30$ on your budget, i'd look for a pair of good tubes that match your preferred sound signature.

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Originally Posted by DarthUnnamed View Post

I think I've made the decision to get the he-400, for home use. What amp/dac should I get for $200? (Oh, and I'm not COMPLETELY sure yet on the he400, so keep it up with the recommendations)

Try asking about DAC & amps for the Hifiman HE-400 on these threads.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586885/new-hifiman-headphone-he-400-is-out

http://www.head-fi.org/t/604583/hifiman-he-400-review

post #19345 of 29490
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Hello, looking to buy a pair of open headphones for sub $130 that is balanced for all types of music.

 

Prefer over-the-ear ones similar to Sennheiser HD518, but I don't mind trying on-ears like Grado 60/80i if its recommended.  Bonus points for comfort-ability

 

My budget was under $100, but I hear good things about the HD518 and the 558/598s are definitely not in range.  Not planning to use a headphone amp, and will mostly be using it in a Xonar DG soundcard.  


Don't know your sound card, but assuming that it is as good as an iPhone 4, add the KRK KNS 8400 (just over $100) and 6400 (currently about $90) to your list.

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Just came back from Hongkong to find a replacement for my AT M50. I'm looking for decent bass, with good SQ and good soundstage, and most importantly comfortable!!! SQ must be better than the senn IE8.

I will use it for music (pop, old rock, jazz) and gaming (l4d2, csgo and sc2). I'm hoping seniors on this thread can help me.

After some research, I decided my option to be beyer 770 pro 80 ohm, senn hd650 and denon d5k.

For the Denon, none of the shops has the old model. They already being replaced with the 400, 600 and 7100. They have the d7000 model, but its too expensive for me...

In the end, I tested Beyer 770 pro 80, hd650, denon 400, and ultrasone 900.

First I ruled out ultrasone since the clamp is too much, not comfortable enough for me.

Moving to beyer. The comfort is ridiculous for a closed can. I can barely feel the headphone on my head and I absolutely loved it! Sound wise the Bass is very strong, I like it. SQ definitely a step up to my M50, but details are drowned by the bass qty. Soundstage is wide, which is important to me for gaming purpose.

HD 650, not as comfort as the beyer since the clamp is a bit tight. But it still comfy for me compared to M50 and ultrasone. Bass qty just enough for me and the SQ is definitely better than Beyer. Details are not drowned by the bass and soundstage is also wide. Although I can't compare the soundstage with Beyer since I'm not testing in a quite room.

Denon 400, comfort wise just a little bit below beyer. Bass qty maybe too much for me and the SQ is about the same like Beyer if not less. But for twice the price of beyer and even more expensive than 650, I ruled it out.

So now my options are between Beyer 770 pro 80 (usd 220) and HD 650 (usd 360) . One question is how is the soundstage comparison between these 2 cans? Since its also important to me for gaming.

I'm having difficulties on choosing which one to buy, so please seniors help me...

I will use it indoor with my asus g73jw and Fiio e17 (for now).

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The problem with the DT770 Pro 80 I've found is that they have a large bump between 300-500Hz or thereabouts. It completely obscures the bass, makes everything super muddy, makes the highs sound recessed. If you EQ that down it pretty much fixes everything, IME. The actual bass is really not that bad at all. Some very nice mids and surprisingly super smooth treble.


Edited by manveru - 9/25/12 at 11:12pm
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The problem with the DT770 Pro 80 I've found is that they have a large bump between 300-500Hz or thereabouts. It completely obscures the bass, makes everything super muddy, makes the highs sound recessed. If you EQ that down it pretty much fixes everything, IME. The actual bass is really not that bad at all. Some very nice mids and surprisingly super smooth treble.


How about it compared to the HD 650? Is it an overkill? also soundstage wise?

Also, compared with beyer 990 pro? I didn't test  the 990, since they don't have demo unit yesterday. Probably I will test it next month, when I'm back to Hongkong.

Seniors, please help me between 770pro 80 or 650 or even the 990 pro 32...


Edited by widdyjudas - 9/25/12 at 11:52pm
post #19349 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Don't know your sound card, but assuming that it is as good as an iPhone 4, add the KRK KNS 8400 (just over $100) and 6400 (currently about $90) to your list.

 

Those look closed to me.  Am I mistaken?

 

Think I'll probably be going with the Sennheiser HD518.  There aren't too many full-sized, open headphones to choose from at this price that I know of.  Anyone have thoughts on AKG K 142 HD and/or Audio Technica ATH-AD700?

 

And also the Asus Xonar DG Soundcard does seem to have a minor built-in headphone amp that I wasn't aware of.

post #19350 of 29490
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Originally Posted by widdyjudas View Post

Just came back from Hongkong to find a replacement for my AT M50. I'm looking for decent bass, with good SQ and good soundstage, and most importantly comfortable!!! SQ must be better than the senn IE8.

I will use it for music (pop, old rock, jazz) and gaming (l4d2, csgo and sc2). I'm hoping seniors on this thread can help me.

After some research, I decided my option to be beyer 770 pro 80 ohm, senn hd650 and denon d5k.

For the Denon, none of the shops has the old model. They already being replaced with the 400, 600 and 7100. They have the d7000 model, but its too expensive for me...

In the end, I tested Beyer 770 pro 80, hd650, denon 400, and ultrasone 900.

First I ruled out ultrasone since the clamp is too much, not comfortable enough for me.

Moving to beyer. The comfort is ridiculous for a closed can. I can barely feel the headphone on my head and I absolutely loved it! Sound wise the Bass is very strong, I like it. SQ definitely a step up to my M50, but details are drowned by the bass qty. Soundstage is wide, which is important to me for gaming purpose.

HD 650, not as comfort as the beyer since the clamp is a bit tight. But it still comfy for me compared to M50 and ultrasone. Bass qty just enough for me and the SQ is definitely better than Beyer. Details are not drowned by the bass and soundstage is also wide. Although I can't compare the soundstage with Beyer since I'm not testing in a quite room.

Denon 400, comfort wise just a little bit below beyer. Bass qty maybe too much for me and the SQ is about the same like Beyer if not less. But for twice the price of beyer and even more expensive than 650, I ruled it out.

So now my options are between Beyer 770 pro 80 (usd 220) and HD 650 (usd 360) . One question is how is the soundstage comparison bethe ween these 2 cans? Since its also important to me for gaming.

I'm having difficulties on choosing which one to buy, so please seniors help me...

I will use it indoor with my asus g73jw and Fiio e17 (for now).


Can't speak to your equipment, except to day the the Beyer will be much easier to push than the not-so-easy to push Senn.

 

That said--the open Senn HD 650 is in an entirely different class than the closed Beyer DT 770.  While it may be a slight overstatement to say that one is a KY Derby class horse, and the other is a claiming horse--it's not too far off.  The 650 is a classic audiophile grade can.  The 770 is a nice specialty can with a "V" shaped EQ.  

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