32 ohms is built for laptops/mp3 players etc. The 80 ohm will work will these devices, but will be much better through an amp. From the link I posted, the bass on the 80 ohm is bloated and flabby ie not very clear. But, I feel as though once you do get either headphones you will get curious about what they will sound like with an amp. So, you may want to invest in the 80 just for that.
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Gear mentioned in this thread:post #18377 of 294908/25/12 at 2:17pmQuote:As i own the dt770pro 80ohm i can say the clarity is very good with great bass and highs the mids are a little recessed but only very slightly.
As a guess I would say the 32ohm version will have more bloated bass and less refinement in the highs the 80ohm will sound good from an mp3 player however the volume may not be ear bleeding they are adequate for me however i almost always u use a portable amp but even a fiio e5 or e6 will improve things and will improve further with a cmoy or dedicated solid state amp or even a tube amp but the tube amp is a guess
But don't feel pressured buy which ever will suit your needs best if you don't want an amp the
buy the 32ohm if you don't mind buy the 80ohm
Edited by SunRay95 - 8/25/12 at 2:26pmpost #18378 of 294908/25/12 at 2:24pmpost #18379 of 294908/25/12 at 2:28pmQuote:The DT's have a really confusing name sequence. The 770 is different than the 880 which is different from the 990.
They're definitely different, but the model numbers don't seem confusing to me:
It's not like the early Mazdas:
RX-3: Entry-level rotary
RX-2: Mid-series rotary
RX-4: Top-of-the-line [sic] rotarypost #18380 of 294908/25/12 at 3:20pmQuote:Originally Posted by CrazyMLC
This is my first foray into the world of finding decent quality headphones, and the price range I'm looking at is around $90.
I've been doing a lot of digging, making a list, checking it twice, all that, but honestly I don't really know what I'm doing. The extent of my ability is looking for the highest rated headphones on Amazon.
So maybe you guys could help me out?
I'm trying to find some headphones that are clear, crisp, and airy. I listen to classical/jazz, orchestra, rock, J-pop, electronic, and trance.
I'd be wearing whatever I got all day, so it'd have to be comfortable, and not too tight.
It's be awesome if you could help me out!
KRK KNS-6400.post #18381 of 294908/25/12 at 3:28pmQuote:
The Q701 is an excellent can and under $250 in the U.S. Also excellent within your budget (based on U.S. street prices): Senn HD 600, Beyer DT 880 (+/-Pro) & HiFiMAN HE-400.post #18382 of 294908/25/12 at 3:33pmQuote:Originally Posted by saxophone
Gaming and music are very different beasts, but I suppose they have some overlap. For gaming, you want something with a great soundstage, so you can hear if someone is behind you or to your left etc. If you don't care too much about leakage, I would definitely suggest the Beyerdynamic dt 860's. I always wanted to try these out with a mic and see how well they would do gaming, because of their supposed incredible soundstage. I'm not sure about style, but you can be the judge of that. With regard to the headphones you posted about:
- You need an amp for the Ultrasone's. You said you don't want to have to use an amp. (The DT's will definitely become much better with an amp, but its impedence is 32ohms, which your iPod for instance can handle
- Audio Technica is a great brand for gaming/music cross over. The ATH 900 series is no exception. I have heard great things about them for both music and gaming. One thing to note is that the closed version (the 900x) was designed more towards the music end and the AD 900 (the open one) was designed for gaming. The latter is supposedly just the 700 but with more clarity - to me that would be pretty awesome for gaming. The 900x seems like something that could definitely work for gaming but will satisfy your music needs.
The M50s are kinda wierd. A lot of people really enjoy them, but they aren't for everyone. Did you not like the recessed mids? In that case, you might want something neutral like the DT 770. Or you can try the bigger brother to the 840s - the 940. It's supposed to be brighter, but its also supposed to retain the energy.
I need more information. Are you using these outside or inside? Do you care how much sound gets out or into the pair? Do you want to buy new or do you mind buying used?
Just want to mention that the Beyer DT 770 is not neutral. It has a "V" shaped EQ. The semi open DT 880 (+/-Pro) is the neutral can.
I agree that the Shure SRH 940 is an excellent can. However, it is not for anyone who is a basshead of any stripe.post #18383 of 294908/25/12 at 3:37pmQuote:Originally Posted by Empire1
I would like some help on choosing between the Audio-technica ATH-M50s and the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pros. Both are about the same price range.
I listen to a variety of music, though many are of the 'mainstream' song categories (hip-hop, pop, etc). so a lot are the top 100 iTunes sings and the like. Sound quality and comfort are very important to me, along with quality of the headphones themselves. I do have slight basshead leanings, but do not want them muddy or too overpowering.
I'm also open to suggestions though I would really like your opinion between these two!
And on a side note, I own a pair of Bose QC15s for traveling. Any idea on how these cans stack up to the AT or the Beyers?
Oh and my source is a iPod Touch 4Gen. I don't plan on purchasing an amp - too much of a hassle for out and about and in general.
The DT 770 is the superior can and built much better. If you select either be sure that you are OK with a "V" shaped EQ and the recess mids that come part of that package.post #18384 of 294908/25/12 at 3:39pmQuote:
Of all the cans on your list, the DT 880 is the clear step up from the 840
Edited by KG Jag - 8/25/12 at 3:48pmpost #18385 of 294908/25/12 at 3:41pmQuote:Originally Posted by Empire1
So, the 80 ohm version of the DT770 unamped vs. an unamped ATH-M50... which sound quality which you describe is better? And bass?
Also, if possible, could you describe the sound of these two headphones? :)
Hold the presses! Just checked on Amazon, and it appears a DT990 32 ohm version is actually a few bucks cheaper than a 80ohm DT770???
Edit 3: And on the Beyerdynamic website, it appears there's a 32ohm version of the DT770 PRos as well!
I am thoroughly confused now...
Just be aware the the DT 990 is open and will leak sound.post #18386 of 294908/25/12 at 3:42pmQuote:
That would lead me to suggest a more neutral sounding can so that it would work with all of your different genres. You might consider saving up for the DT880. You might also consider the Sennheiser HD598 which is very nice for most music, and especially for games. It has a bit of a rolled of treble and the bass is a little weak without an amp. I'd keep these two can on your wish list for your next upgrade.post #18387 of 294908/25/12 at 3:43pmpost #18388 of 294908/25/12 at 3:50pm
Why not go all out and go with the 600 Ohm version if you buy an amp? I have heard that the harshness of the trebles are subsided in the 600 Ohm version.Quote:Originally Posted by hipster2010
That would lead me to suggest a more neutral sounding can so that it would work with all of your different genres. You might consider saving up for the DT880. You might also consider the Sennheiser HD598 which is very nice for most music, and especially for games. It has a bit of a rolled of treble and the bass is a little weak without an amp. I'd keep these two can on your wish list for your next upgrade.Quote:
Thanks for your suggestions. I will definitely keep them in mind.post #18389 of 294908/25/12 at 3:56pmQuote:
More amps, especially portables will push the 250 Ohm version.
If you have the power, the 600 is better, although the music quality gap between the 250 and 600 is less than the quality gaps for the steps up to the 250.post #18390 of 294908/25/12 at 4:05pm
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