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(Reposting this from my own thread, I didn't see this until after I created it):::

 

 

- This - close to buying the Ultrasone 580...You guys who drop $2,000 on a pair every week don't think this is a big deal I'm sure but it's the most I've spent on phones. I have some more questions if anyone is nice enough.

 

After reading through zillions of threads I understand that the 580s are considered the go-to phones for wide, powerful, clean bass around $100??? True/false?

And a little scooped in the middle?

Sounds right up my ally, since I'm trying to run away from piercing upper-mids.

 

Before I press "buy" and feel all guilty for spending more money than I had intended to (as usual).

 

1. I hate the chrome/metal look. I like plain black plastic stuff. Guess I'm stuck in the '80s. Do you think it would be crazy if I applied some metal bluing/blackening solution to the silver parts? That is REAL metal right?

 

2. What on Earth is this "radiation shielding" feature Ultrasone talks about? I've never heard of anything like this before on headphones. I didn't even know they emitted harmful radiation. Can anyone fill me in?

 

3. Will running these straight from my $400 Windows laptop work or be a total waste? Is some sort of an amp mandatory? I need a new usb interface and some of them have some decent integrated headphone amps so it's not a major problem but I just want to know what I'm getting into. Basically, hows the sensitivity with low power?

 

4. I've seen mixed reviews about how rugged these are, ranging from "bulletproof" to "fell apart in a week", Since I'll be carrying these to college in a big goofy manpurse with my computer science textbooks this is very important. I'm not going to be scubadiving/wrestling with them or anything but they'll probably get bumped around a LOT.

 

Thanks in advance. This forum has been great, before I found it I was looking at all sorts of horrific crap.

post #18212 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Without an amp and with the sound signature you want in a closed can, options are limited.  There is the Shure SRH 840 and Beyer DT 1350.

 

An amp opens up the Shure SRH 940, AKG K 550.

 

what kind of signature would bring out vocals and guitar? i ask for a punchy bass and warm mids but i'm not sure that would truly compliment what i listen to. and would a fiio e17 be good with the srh 940 and akg k550? i know i like a tight punchy bass for my pop/jazz though. and the infrequent hip hop that i listen to.


Edited by seelamb - 8/21/12 at 5:31pm
post #18213 of 29490

I'm hoping I wasn't skipped but I do have a question...

 

people use descriptors like Punchy and warm....what exactly do you mean? what are some of the common terms and their meanings? I'm showing my ignorance here but better to be informed than ignorant

post #18214 of 29490
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Originally Posted by seelamb View Post

 

what kind of signature would bring out vocals and guitar? i ask for a punchy bass and warm mids but i'm not sure that would truly compliment what i listen to. and would a fiio e17 be good with the srh 940 and akg k550? i know i like a tight punchy bass for my pop/jazz though. and the infrequent hip hop that i listen to.

It is very hard to beat the mids of the Shure.  The AKG will give you a bit more bass, provided you can get a proper seal, which is a problem for some--especialy if you have a beard or long sideburns and even (sometimes) glasses.  The problem is that punchy bass in your price range of closed cans is almost always paired with mids and highs you don't like.  Examples:Ultrasone HiFi 780 & Pro 750 and Denon AH-D2000.

 

I cannot help you with portable amp pairings, as I only use desktop amps and receivers.

post #18215 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Archenstone View Post

I'm hoping I wasn't skipped but I do have a question...

 

people use descriptors like Punchy and warm....what exactly do you mean? what are some of the common terms and their meanings? I'm showing my ignorance here but better to be informed than ignorant


This should help:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary

post #18216 of 29490
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

It is very hard to beat the mids of the Shure.  The AKG will give you a bit more bass, provided you can get a proper seal, which is a problem for some--especialy if you have a beard or long sideburns and even (sometimes) glasses.  The problem is that punchy bass in your price range of closed cans is almost always paired with mids and highs you don't like.  Examples:Ultrasone HiFi 780 & Pro 750 and Denon AH-D2000.

 

I cannot help you with portable amp pairings, as I only use desktop amps and receivers.

 

I see, well i have small ears if that affects the seal of the AKGs. What would be a good amp to pair with the AKGs and Shure's?

post #18217 of 29490

I am looking for a pair of over the air headphones in the 300 to 500 dollar range. Among the ones that seem to interest me are the he-400's pro900 and Senheisser 600's. I briefly had a pair of Beyer's 1250's. They were nice but just didn't excite me. Mid range was more laid back. My primary listening is classic rock and jazz. Occasionallt some classical. I have 60 year old ears, so keep that in mind. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.

post #18218 of 29490
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Originally Posted by eddieg24 View Post

I am looking for a pair of over the air headphones in the 300 to 500 dollar range. Among the ones that seem to interest me are the he-400's pro900 and Senheisser 600's. I briefly had a pair of Beyer's 1250's. They were nice but just didn't excite me. Mid range was more laid back. My primary listening is classic rock and jazz. Occasionallt some classical. I have 60 year old ears, so keep that in mind. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.


The Pro 900 is a basshead can.  So you don't want that.

 

The HE-400 & HD 600 are both excellent choices.  Also take a look at the (much cheaper) Q701, HD 650, (discontinued but still available) D5000 and DT 880 (+/-Pro).

 

BTW: did you mean to refer to the Beyerdynamic Tesla DT 1350?

post #18219 of 29490

I have never invested money in a good pair of headphones, ive been using generic ones until last year when i bought a klipsh s4i, from what i heard they were the best in my price range. now im interested in purchasing a closed full size headphone. im a college student and i spend most of my time in noisier environments, so i need headphones that will isolate the noise. ive been doing a lot of research and everyone is saying to make sure the headphones have replaceable parts just incase something goes wrong. ive had my eyes set on the audio technica ath-m50, is that a good choice for what i need or is there something better? i love listening to classical/ instrumental music and occasionally a heavy bass song here and there. $150 is my maximum and if there is another headphone similar to the m50 but with a mic i might also consider them as well. 

 

Thank you very much in advance

post #18220 of 29490

The basic story is that I am looking for a good pair of headphones that are open so I can listen at home. Closed can recommendations are allowed also. I will mainly be using them to listen to Alternative Rock, Rock, Metal, Classic Rock and a little bit of hip-hop(Beastie Boys, NWA), country, and house. If the headphones could be used for gaming or watching movies that is definitely an added plus. My budget is around $250. I have been recommended the sr225is because I mainly listen to alternative rock and rock. I was wondering if the sr60i with mods is worth the money it saves you or if I should just jump the gun on the sr225i's.
 


Edited by TheEvilNarwhal - 8/21/12 at 7:47pm
post #18221 of 29490

Yes I meant the Tesla driven 1350's. I bought those because I thought i wanted a more even sound, but now I think i want something with a bit more punch, thus the pro 900's. I don't know about the 701's. I've read such mixed things about them. I didn't realize the 650's were discontinued. Is there much of a difference between them and the 600's.
 

post #18222 of 29490
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Originally Posted by eddieg24 View Post

Yes I meant the Tesla driven 1350's. I bought those because I thought i wanted a more even sound, but now I think i want something with a bit more punch, thus the pro 900's. I don't know about the 701's. I've read such mixed things about them. I didn't realize the 650's were discontinued. Is there much of a difference between them and the 600's.
 


The 650 is not discontinued, the D5000 is.

 

If you want punch, then the AKG is not for you.  Headphones with punch brings to mind the Ultrasone Pro 750 or HiFi 2400 (strong bass, but not basshead cans) or something from the Grado family and its "wall of sound"--the SR 225, 325 and Alessandro MS2.

post #18223 of 29490
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Originally Posted by TheEvilNarwhal View Post

The basic story is that I am looking for a good pair of headphones that are open so I can listen at home. Closed can recommendations are allowed also. I will mainly be using them to listen to Alternative Rock, Rock, Metal, Classic Rock and a little bit of hip-hop(Beastie Boys, NWA), country, and house. If the headphones could be used for gaming or watching movies that is definitely an added plus. My budget is around $250. I have been recommended the sr225is because I mainly listen to alternative rock and rock. I was wondering if the sr60i with mods is worth the money it saves you or if I should just jump the gun on the sr225i's.
 


If you go with the Grados, the 225 is the one to buy.  Be aware that Grado does not have a heavy bass sound.  In addition Grados, while great for rock, are not good for gaming with their small sound stage.

post #18224 of 29490

Why the 750's over the 900's. I thought they are similar sounding with a slight advantage to the 900's. If the 750's will do the job I just assume I'd get them and save a few bucks.
 

post #18225 of 29490
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Originally Posted by ksz210 View Post

I have never invested money in a good pair of headphones, ive been using generic ones until last year when i bought a klipsh s4i, from what i heard they were the best in my price range. now im interested in purchasing a closed full size headphone. im a college student and i spend most of my time in noisier environments, so i need headphones that will isolate the noise. ive been doing a lot of research and everyone is saying to make sure the headphones have replaceable parts just incase something goes wrong. ive had my eyes set on the audio technica ath-m50, is that a good choice for what i need or is there something better? i love listening to classical/ instrumental music and occasionally a heavy bass song here and there. $150 is my maximum and if there is another headphone similar to the m50 but with a mic i might also consider them as well. 

 

Thank you very much in advance


The M50's are a poor choice for classical and instrumental music.  The have a "V" shaped sound signature--which means they have recessed mids.  The Shure SRH 840 is a better choice at covering the genres you enjoy.  Even with the mid-bass hump of the Shure, you'll give up some overemphasized bass, but more than make it up with superior mids.

 

BTW: the Shure has a replaceable cable that the M50 does not have.

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