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Would the "V" shape signature of the 770s have a positive or negative effect on the music? I guess as has been said its down to my preference now, but technically?

Objectively it's worse.  A "V" shaped headphone will give your ears something quite different than what was laid down in the recorded tract.  That said, that something different is a sound signature some prefer.  In addition some other + aspect of a "V" shaped can may override its colored reproduction of sound that it put into in.  Of course the amount of the "V" differs from can to can--sometimes even from production runs of the same can (like the M50).

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Would the "V" shape signature of the 770s have a positive or negative effect on the music? I guess as has been said its down to my preference now, but technically?

 

"V" shaped just means that the mids are slightly recessed and the bass and highs are given emphasis. It's not necessarily positive or negative it's more based on preference and what music you listen to. If you listen to music that is based more in mids it might be negative but if you're a basshead it might be positive. 

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They're also almost as big (albeit not as heavy) as a couple of tanks.  Soundwise they are OK, but the HD 598 & K 550 are much better.  The K240 is at least as good and is cheaper (don't know about the K271).  The two Beyers mentioned have "V" shaped sound signatures and are therefore different animals than the rest, which are at least neutral-ish.

The recession in mids on the K550 was very bothersome to me. It isn't quite fair to compare with either of those cans with the FA-003 because they are both over $100 dollars more expensive and the HD598 are open back and therefore sound very different. Fischer Audio FA-003 are great cans if your looking to spend less than $200 and you need closed back. 

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think about the ATH-M50 too. but it should be a pick between ath-m50s and vmoda m-80. i hear so many people tell me the 1100s dont have audiophile sound to them.
 

The D1100s are a basshead phone for sure, but they sound pretty refined.  They are bassy but never muddy, which is a pretty awesome thing.  No bleed into the mids or anything.  They also have a huge soundstage.

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Objectively it's worse.  A "V" shaped headphone will give your ears something quite different than what was laid down in the recorded tract.  That said, that something different is a sound signature some prefer.  In addition some other + aspect of a "V" shaped can may override its colored reproduction of sound that it put into in.  Of course the amount of the "V" differs from can to can--sometimes even from production runs of the same can (like the M50).

 

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"V" shaped just means that the mids are slightly recessed and the bass and highs are given emphasis. It's not necessarily positive or negative it's more based on preference and what music you listen to. If you listen to music that is based more in mids it might be negative but if you're a basshead it might be positive. 

The recession in mids on the K550 was very bothersome to me. It isn't quite fair to compare with either of those cans with the FA-003 because they are both over $100 dollars more expensive and the HD598 are open back and therefore sound very different. Fischer Audio FA-003 are great cans if your looking to spend less than $200 and you need closed back. 

 

As I said in my original post my genres are rock (classic, alternative, electronic, indie) and electronic, but also some minor classical and pop listening.

 

I'm leaning towards the DT770 now just because of the closed aspect (although the open wouldn't be a problem with the sound leaking out, I don't like the idea of it leaking in that much either seeing as I'd be using them in a generally noisy place if I even happened to take them out and about (rare occasions) and the idea of having the amp for roughly the same price as the 598 (that I could use with other purchases that may need the amp). Would the extra bass and recessed mids be a bad idea for quite vocal songs, and would the Fiio E7 power the 770 (250 Ohm) decently with my iPod Classic ?

 

Sorry for all the questions!

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Originally Posted by audio snob View Post

 

"V" shaped just means that the mids are slightly recessed and the bass and highs are given emphasis. It's not necessarily positive or negative it's more based on preference and what music you listen to. If you listen to music that is based more in mids it might be negative but if you're a basshead it might be positive.

 

"V" means that bass and treble are emphasized and the mids are recessed.  The amount that each is recessed and emphasized is not always "slight".  Anyone who has listened to a true basshead can knows that much.  The actual range in each aspect (bass, mids, treble) ranges from slight to massive--not only going from can to can but sometimes with regard to the same headphone.  Each to his own.  Yet as general rule I want to hear the music as the the artist and studio engineers intended it to be heard.

 

The recession in mids on the K550 was very bothersome to me. It isn't quite fair to compare with either of those cans with the FA-003 because they are both over $100 dollars more expensive and the HD598 are open back and therefore sound very different. Fischer Audio FA-003 are great cans if your looking to spend less than $200 and you need closed back.

 

The list was the one presented by the poster asking advice.  The comparisons were done with regard to the cans that the poster had already selected for that purpose.

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As I said in my original post my genres are rock (classic, alternative, electronic, indie) and electronic, but also some minor classical and pop listening.

 

I'm leaning towards the DT770 now just because of the closed aspect (although the open wouldn't be a problem with the sound leaking out, I don't like the idea of it leaking in that much either seeing as I'd be using them in a generally noisy place if I even happened to take them out and about (rare occasions) and the idea of having the amp for roughly the same price as the 598 (that I could use with other purchases that may need the amp). Would the extra bass and recessed mids be a bad idea for quite vocal songs, and would the Fiio E7 power the 770 (250 Ohm) decently with my iPod Classic ?

 

Sorry for all the questions!


Recessed mids is bad for all vocals (and guitars).

 

I don't have any portable amps, so I can't help you with that.

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Recessed mids is bad for all vocals (and guitars).

 

I don't have any portable amps, so I can't help you with that.


Ok, I think I will find somewhere (or order a pair and return) that I can try out the HD 598s and see where I can go from there, as it seems like I'll definitely be wanting those mids.

 

Thanks for all the help those of you who replied, much appreciated!

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Originally Posted by Kazky View Post

 

 

As I said in my original post my genres are rock (classic, alternative, electronic, indie) and electronic, but also some minor classical and pop listening.

 

I'm leaning towards the DT770 now just because of the closed aspect (although the open wouldn't be a problem with the sound leaking out, I don't like the idea of it leaking in that much either seeing as I'd be using them in a generally noisy place if I even happened to take them out and about (rare occasions) and the idea of having the amp for roughly the same price as the 598 (that I could use with other purchases that may need the amp). Would the extra bass and recessed mids be a bad idea for quite vocal songs, and would the Fiio E7 power the 770 (250 Ohm) decently with my iPod Classic ?

 

Sorry for all the questions!

To be honest I think the HD598s are a bit better for the music you listen too. The open phone literally block out no sound though, so if there is any worry there, do not get an open phone. I was wearing some AKG Q701 (open headphones) the other day and my girlfriend complained because she said it was like I was playing music through a speaker. Also, be warned that both of these cans, especially the Beyers are quite big. If durability is a concern the Beyers are hands down the better choice as the HD598s always felt a bit fragile so I babied them every time I used them. That being said you will almost definitely be very happy (at least temporarily until you get the itch to upgrade) with whatever you choose because you are new to the headphone scene.

 

Don't be afraid of used phones, unless it really matters to you. Check the For sale forums here as some good discounts appear quite often. If you want to try out the DT770 and don't mind used, check ebay as they can be had for $120 or less most of the time (a pair today ended at $70). The E7 will power the 250ohm version as that was the amp that I had at the time. However, if you don't plan to use them with a portable source (ipod, phone, etc) but with your laptop instead, you could look into the E11 as it is a little cheap and I think the amp is supposed to be a bit better. If you really want the E7 though, there is always the Pyle rebrand which is cheaper.

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Ok, I think I will find somewhere (or order a pair and return) that I can try out the HD 598s and see where I can go from there, as it seems like I'll definitely be wanting those mids.

 

Thanks for all the help those of you who replied, much appreciated!

Let us know how you like them! Use also may want to look into something like this as the 598s are terminated at 1/4" and have an adapter that makes it a bit bulky, though you can decide if it bothers you once you have them.

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Let us know how you like them! Use also may want to look into something like this as the 598s are terminated at 1/4" and have an adapter that makes it a bit bulky, though you can decide if it bothers you once you have them.

I'll definitely take what you said in the above post into consideration, thanks for the help and the link to that adapter :)

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will a beyer headband and velour ear cushion fit in a he-400? Im planning on getting an he-400 and I want to make it more comfortable. Im pretty sure the headband will fit but will the velour earpads fit? There are two types; EDT 990 and EDT 770, not sure what the difference is...maybe size 

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Ok that makes sense. I would recommend you find a way to fix the plug on your phone or you may need a new phone (or different player). The HD555 are a bit of an odd choice to plug into a phone as I'm assuming you therefore use them as portable headphones. Regardless, you should still be able to use your HD555 from a normal source, but if you need an adapter for a 1/8" plug I'd recommend getting something like this with an "L" shaped plug so there isn't as much awkward pressure on the headphone jack on your player (doesn't have to be that exact adapter, just the angled termination.


damn, if i'd known such an adaptor existed i would have bought one AGES ago !! i will try to fix the headphone jack and get one of these ASAP!

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I want to buy my first full sized headphones and I don't really know which one I should buy. I've already had a Earsonics SM2 iem that I liked a lot but found it to be a little too dark sometimes, although it may give a little "something" on jazz sometimes. I listen to a lot of jazz, blues, rock, country and classical through my unamped Sansa Fuze and would like to keep a low budget. Thinking about Superlux 668b, what you guys think? 

Thanks!

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Hey guys! I just got a new pair of AKG K240 MKII an was wondering what a really good amp for under $100 would be great with them? I really wanna make sure I get great audio quality and a great bass boost to make sure my techno songs really shine when listening through my iPod.

Also I've used them for almost 3 hours and have noticed that on a few songs (an a music video on YouTube) that there is this weird crackling noise for some reason (I had the volume around 80%) might any1 kno the problem? The songs quality? A defect in the headphone? Too high volume? Lack of an amp? If someone could help me out it's be great. It's just that these are my first he'd phones I've ever gotten and I'm no where close to being an audiophile ( or understanding their language)
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