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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post


Neither one of those cans is either bass heavy or even emphasized.  You should probably read this:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/hifiman-he-5-he-5le-he-6-and-he500-planar-magnetic-headphones

 

and this:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/most-excellent-sennheiser-amperior-and-hd-25-1-ii

 

The HE-500 takes a serious (usually) desktop amp, like the Schiit Asgard, to properly power them.


not a bass head, so that's not a problem. i think any headphone would give me more bass than the AD-700, and that'd be fine. i enjoy the punch the PortaPros can deliver and i know for sure those aren't bass heavy.

 

so do you have any recommendation based on the information i've given?

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not a bass head, so that's not a problem. i think any headphone would give me more bass than the AD-700, and that'd be fine. i enjoy the punch the PortaPros can deliver and i know for sure those aren't bass heavy.

 

so do you have any recommendation based on the information i've given?


I'd be happy to try, but to do so I need to know:

 

What's your budget?

 

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an upgraded amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

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I'd be happy to try, but to do so I need to know:

 

What's your budget?

 

What equipment will be powering these cans?  Will you be using an upgraded amp?

 

What is the format of your music and other sounds you will putting into these cans?

 



$500

Fiio E09K + E17 at home and E17 on the go.

Mostly 320 kbps MP3, light gaming, light movie watching.

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Hey guys, I kinda need your help. I'm upgrading from an SR80i, which I love. I intend to spend $400, included in the price would be the Fiio E17, so that leaves me with something like $260 for headphones. I like the lively, detailed and fun sound of the Grado, but they get uncomfortable in an hour and I have to take them off, so I'm afraid the SR225i or SR325is would be a LOT worse.

 

I believe that a Grado sound with more soundstage and comfort would be what I want. If you think I can get a more expensive headphone, say around $350 and spend the rest on a lesser amp like the E7 it's ok too. Thanks a lot!


Edited by rainostr - 8/5/12 at 5:03pm
post #17480 of 29490
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Originally Posted by rainostr View Post

Hey guys, I kinda need your help. I'm upgrading from an SR80i, which I love. I intend to spend $400, included in the price would be the Fiio E17, so that leaves me with something like $260 for headphones. I like the lively, detailed and fun sound of the Grado, but they get uncomfortable in an hour and I have to take them off, so I'm afraid the SR225i or SR325is would be a LOT worse.

 

I believe that a Grado sound with more soundstage and comfort would be what I want. If you think I can get a more expensive headphone, say around $350 and spend the rest on a lesser amp like the E7 it's ok too. Thanks a lot!

 

There is nothing that sounds like Grados.  The closest I know is the outstanding (but discontinued and now hard to find at $400 +) Sony MDR-SA5000.  That said, the more easily found SA3000, which uses the same drivers but is more fragile, can be had for about $170.  Of the cans still in production, the Ultrasones (to my ears) sound the most like the Grados (but with more bass).  Check out the Pro 750, which will need an amp.  Don't know which portable amp will best work with it, as I only own desktop amps.

 

I will add that the 225 and 325 use different ear pads than the 80, so they might work for you.


Edited by KG Jag - 8/5/12 at 5:17pm
post #17481 of 29490
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There is nothing that sounds like Grados.  The closest I know is the outstanding (but discontinued and now hard to find at $400 +) Sony MDR-SA5000.  That said, the more easily found SA3000, which uses the same drivers but is more fragile, can be had for about $170.  Of the cans still in production, the Ultrasones (to my ears) sound the most like the Grados (but with more bass).  Check out the Pro 750, which will need an amp.  Don't know which portable amp will best work with it, as I only own desktop amps.

 

I will add that the 225 and 325 use different ear pads than the 80, so they might work for you.

 

Yeah, I saw the Pro 750 and the HFI 2400, they look like a good option. Is the Pro 750 better than the HFI 400? they have the same price on amazon. However, I really prefer open cans, cause I will use them at home and I need to know when someone calls out my name. Does anyone know a place in LA to try out Grados btw?

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Yeah, I saw the Pro 750 and the HFI 2400, they look like a good option. Is the Pro 750 better than the HFI 400? they have the same price on amazon. However, I really prefer open cans, cause I will use them at home and I need to know when someone calls out my name. Does anyone know a place in LA to try out Grados btw?


I've never the heard the 400  However based on its model number and "HiFi" designation, I would guess that they are several steps down form the other two.

 

Further the 400 is a discontinued model.  The current low end offering is the 450.

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$500

Fiio E09K + E17 at home and E17 on the go.

Mostly 320 kbps MP3, light gaming, light movie watching.


Maybe you should just go with one headphone--perhaps the Beyerdynamic DT 1350.

 

See: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/awesome-beyerdynamic-dt-1350

post #17484 of 29490
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Originally Posted by rainostr View Post

Hey guys, I kinda need your help. I'm upgrading from an SR80i, which I love. I intend to spend $400, included in the price would be the Fiio E17, so that leaves me with something like $260 for headphones. I like the lively, detailed and fun sound of the Grado, but they get uncomfortable in an hour and I have to take them off, so I'm afraid the SR225i or SR325is would be a LOT worse.

 

I believe that a Grado sound with more soundstage and comfort would be what I want. If you think I can get a more expensive headphone, say around $350 and spend the rest on a lesser amp like the E7 it's ok too. Thanks a lot!

 

You may want to try the G-Cush pads on your Grados. If not, as KG Jag pointed out nothing sounds quite like Grados. At least that's what I've read. But in that price range and for what you're going for I think the HD600 is worth looking into. It can be had for $300.


Edited by devhen - 8/5/12 at 6:37pm
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You may want to try the G-Cush pads on your Grados. If not, as KG Jag pointed out nothing sounds quite like Grados. At least that's what I've read. But in that price range and for what you're going for I think the HD600 is worth looking into. It can be had for $300.

 

And how about the HD-598? They seem to have more accentuated mid-range thus more similar to the Grados. Are the 600's an improvement over them or a totally different signature? I don't like how they look at all though (the 598), but that really doesn't matter, since they seem really comfortable.

post #17486 of 29490
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And how about the HD-598? They seem to have more accentuated mid-range thus more similar to the Grados. Are the 600's an improvement over them or a totally different signature? I don't like how they look at all though (the 598), but that really doesn't matter, since they seem really comfortable.


The 598 is a very good can, but not even remotely like the Grados.

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And how about the HD-598? They seem to have more accentuated mid-range thus more similar to the Grados. Are the 600's an improvement over them or a totally different signature? I don't like how they look at all though (the 598), but that really doesn't matter, since they seem really comfortable.

 

I haven't tried the 598 but from everything I've read the 600 is a decent step up and also a slightly different sound signature but not by much.

 

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post #17488 of 29490
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I haven't tried the 598 but from everything I've read the 600 is a decent step up and also a slightly different sound signature but not by much.

 

1000


To my ears the HD 600 is significantly more neutral than the HD 598--or the HD 650 for that matter.

post #17489 of 29490
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Originally Posted by bixby View Post

 

From the Head Direct site:

 

What makes HE-400 special is:
 1)      it is 92.5DB efficient so it can be driven by virtually anything including an iPod.

 

While they're obviously relatively efficient they're still planar magnetics. I'm yet to try them myself but if you look at Tyll's datasheet for them, the power required for 90d BSPL is 0.33 mW which is quite high. In comparison, the 300 ohm HD600s require 0.17 and the 600 ohm Beyers are only a little higher than the HE-400 at ~ 0.45. I'm guessing the volume level would be a bit lacking plugged directly into a portable device and the sound quality probably wouldn't be up to its full potential. They would probably still sound pretty great though. :)

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE400.pdf

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Hi, I'm looking for closed, over ear headphones for listening to music on my iphone without an amp. I listen to techno, dubstep, hiphop, and rap. They cant be more than $200. Also, I'm looking for some cool models like the astro a30s or V-Moda Crossfade LP because I would like to wear these around school. The LPs are cool but I understand that they are very bass heavy. Has anyone tried them? I don't want the bass to be overpowering, I would prefer the headphones to be balanced. Do you guys know any headphones that would fit these characteristics? I understand that the ultrasones are very popular in this category. Thanks!

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