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Let's say I'd raised my budget to $400 and wouldn't mind if I had to add an amp, what would you guys recommend me than?

 

Closed or semi-closed, for recording/tracking with great comfort.

 

Beyerdynamic DT 880 250ohm + a cheap FIIO amp? Or a DT 770? Or DT 990? ....too much choice.

post #16907 of 29491
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Originally Posted by MarcoGV View Post

Your concern is reasonable.  I do not wear headphones for hours at a time, so others may be better judges.  Here are my current impressions.  Note that I wear glasses.  I find that some of my on-ear headphones are more comfortable than some of my over-ear headphones.  Maybe the worst are "largish" on-ears, such as the Beyerdynamic DT-235---they both keep my ears warm and press on them.  I am listening to classical music using them as I type this, and, while they are comfortable enough, they are less comfortable than, say, the Sennheiser HD-238, Philips SHL-5500, or Koss Portapro.  I find the over-ear Ortofon O-one more comfortable than the DT-235, but slightly less comfortable than the PortaPro.  I find the Fostex T50RP less comfortable than the Audio Technica AD-700, which I find less comfortable than the O-one.  All of these headphones are comfortable enough for a CD-length listening session. 

Thanks.  I also wear glasses, so your viewpoint's appreciated.  But, in the end your conclusion is then that it doesn't matter as much the on-ear/over-ear as it does the specific headphone itself (i.e., headphone type is irrelevant to comfort)?

 

One thing I noticed about the Downtowns is that the purport "memory foam". I'm not sure whether this is pure marketing or if this is a real feature.  If it is, it would be nice.  Otherwise, I've heard that both headphones are fairly comfortable, so that's good.

 

Anyone have anything to say about whether the Downtowns or CAL!s need amps?

post #16908 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Slivortal View Post

Thanks.  I also wear glasses, so your viewpoint's appreciated.  But, in the end your conclusion is then that it doesn't matter as much the on-ear/over-ear as it does the specific headphone itself (i.e., headphone type is irrelevant to comfort)?

 

One thing I noticed about the Downtowns is that the purport "memory foam". I'm not sure whether this is pure marketing or if this is a real feature.  If it is, it would be nice.  Otherwise, I've heard that both headphones are fairly comfortable, so that's good.

 

Anyone have anything to say about whether the Downtowns or CAL!s need amps?

 

I don't think either need an amp but amping typically helps at least a little bit. You should be fine without one for now.

 

AFAIK the talk of "memory foam" isn't just marketing hype. They are considered quite comfortable.

 

You mentioned not having comfort problems with on-ear headphones in the past so I take this as meaning you rarely listen for multiple hours at a time. Just be aware that if you do, on-ear headphones will cause discomfort. It surprises me that anyone can regularly use on-ear headphones without experiencing discomfort at some point. After all this is head-fi so when someone says they don't listen to their headphones for multiple straight hours I think.... then what the hell are you doing with the rest of your time??? :D

 

 

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Originally Posted by BullHorn View Post

Let's say I'd raised my budget to $400 and wouldn't mind if I had to add an amp, what would you guys recommend me than?

 

Closed or semi-closed, for recording/tracking with great comfort.

 

Beyerdynamic DT 880 250ohm + a cheap FIIO amp? Or a DT 770? Or DT 990? ....too much choice.

 

I would go with the 880 for recording and tracking because it is the more neutral of the three. There are a lot of people that use the 880 in recording and are very happy with it.

post #16909 of 29491

Hello head-fi'ers,

 

Will be getting a new Headphones. 

My needs are mainly : Gaming , Movies and a fair amount of music . Must have an excellent BASS(explosions must be explosive! ). Good overall SQ, soundstage, durability and comfortable to wear. 

Budget: $150- $200.

Type : Full size 

Will also be getting an Asus Sonar DG. 

 

I am currently using Sennheiser HD201, so this would be my first upgrade towards audiophile zone !

 

So far i have narrowed down to the following

Sennheiser HD518, HD558, HD598

Audio Technica -ATH-M50, T500, D700

 

Please suggest me which one to go for from the above or from other manufacturers. 

 

Thanks

Abhay


Edited by abhay - 7/25/12 at 12:33pm
post #16910 of 29491
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Originally Posted by abhay View Post

Hello head-fi'ers,

 

Will be getting a new Headphones. 

My needs are mainly : Gaming , Movies and a fair amount of music . Must have an excellent BASS(explosions must be explosive! ). Good overall SQ, soundstage, durability and comfortable to wear. 

Budget: $150- $200.

Type : Full size 

Will also be getting an Asus Sonar DG. 

 

I am currently using Sennheiser HD201, so this would be my first upgrade towards audiophile zone !

 

So far i have narrowed down to the following

Sennheiser HD518, HD558, HD598

Audio Technica -ATH-M50, T500, D700

 

Please suggest me which one to go for from the above or from other manufacturers. 

 

Thanks

Abhay

Don't get the M50 as it has a small soundstage which would be bad for movies/games. The Senn HD598 will not have the powerfull bass that you are looking for, I would assume the HD558 and HD518 may be similar but have not tried them.

 

This might sound crazy, but I'd look into the Pannasonic HTF600 and the Superlux 668 / Samson SR850. Both are well below your budget, but will likely meet your needs and each has nice bass that will leave you satisfied.

post #16911 of 29491

For price/performance, should I go for a Superlux HD668B and then mod it, or just bite the bullet and try out the 

AKG Q701s? I like my Senn's, but I want headphones to give me better detail and speed. I prefer less bass emphasis,

but would like it to have a nice punch in the lower ranges. Would really like to bring out the percussion and piano in my 

tracks. 

post #16912 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Zoomer13 View Post

For price/performance, should I go for a Superlux HD668B and then mod it, or just bite the bullet and try out the 

AKG Q701s? I like my Senn's, but I want headphones to give me better detail and speed. I prefer less bass emphasis,

but would like it to have a nice punch in the lower ranges. Would really like to bring out the percussion and piano in my 

tracks. 

You are gonna bite the bullet anyway, so why not do it now because you will likely be unsatisfied and continually wonder how the Q701s sound. I just got a pair of Q701s myself and they are very nice. That being said, if you decide to save some money right now, the Superlux 668 are very nice, but they do have a slightly emphasized bass which may be a bit more that you want

post #16913 of 29491
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Originally Posted by hipster2010 View Post

You are gonna bite the bullet anyway, so why not do it now because you will likely be unsatisfied and continually wonder how the Q701s sound. I just got a pair of Q701s myself and they are very nice. That being said, if you decide to save some money right now, the Superlux 668 are very nice, but they do have a slightly emphasized bass which may be a bit more that you want

So the bass delivery is good? Cause that's one thing I find missing from my 555s, and the beyers were a bit hot in the treble. 

 

Would just like a little more comparison of sound is all :P

 

EDIT: Also, there are some decent mods that are doable for the 668s, which kinda grabs my interest...can anyone attest to their usefulness?


Edited by Zoomer13 - 7/25/12 at 2:14pm
post #16914 of 29491
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Originally Posted by bixby View Post

Sorry wasn't the Sony 5000 that I heard but rather the Sony R-10.  Rare beast and quite expensive I suppose.

 

It's older and from what I have read, even better than the 5000.

post #16915 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Zoomer13 View Post

So the bass delivery is good? Cause that's one thing I find missing from my 555s, and the beyers were a bit hot in the treble. 

 

Would just like a little more comparison of sound is all :P

 

EDIT: Also, there are some decent mods that are doable for the 668s, which kinda grabs my interest...can anyone attest to their usefulness?

If you find that your HD555s are too light on their bass, then the Q701 is probably not the right choice. I haven't had much time to listen to my Q701 yet, but I felt like it does have decent bass extension and without any distortion, but it lacks punch which might be what you felt with the HD555s. I used to have a pair of those but it has been awhile so unfortunately I can't recall exactly how they compare.

 

I honestly am a big fan of the Superlux 668, just based upon your initial comment it didn't seem to fit your preference. I don't know about the mods, but I imagine they would make it an even better value.

 

Here are a couple graphs to look at the Frequency responses between a couple of the headphones

 

700

 

 

700

post #16916 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Slivortal View Post

Thanks for the help everyone! At the moment I feel that I'm kind of leaning to the Downtowns over the CAL!s. but just to be sure, neither of them need to be driven by an amp, do they? For the money and the hassle that an amp costs, it's just something I'd rather not deal with.

 

Both of them (as well as the Sony MDR-ZX700) are designed to be used unamped straight from portable devices.

post #16917 of 29491
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Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

Hey fellow Head-Fi'ers, long time lurker first time poster here from Finland :wave:
I've been thinking about buying myself proper cans for so long to replace these horrid full-size Steelseries Siberia's tongue.gif
What I'm looking for are full-size and over-the-ear around(?)-the-ear open hp's.
For DAC/AMP I was thinking about the Audinst HUD-MX1 because I could use it for cans and then just flip the switch and have it act as a DAC/PREAMP for my Tripath based speaker amplifier.
I listen to all kinds of music so I'm looking for a decent all-rounder.
Just to name a few artists: Melody Gardot, Norah Jones, Pendulum, Machinae Supremacy, Disturbed, Volbeat, Sonata Arctica, Apocalyptica, Amorphis, Linkin Park, classical (Sibelius, Beethoven, Vivaldi), Foo Fighters, Chisu, Pink, System of a Down, Bob Dylan, Tiësto, Popeda, Maj Karma, Bobby McFerrin, Yölintu, Armin Van Buuren, Metallica, Billy Joel, Sting and much much more.
I'm not a basshead so head pounding, eardrum bleeding bass is not needed. If I know how to correctly say what kind of cans I want: neutral, clear highs, balanced mids compared to high/lows, lows would be LOW precise and just there nothing boomy or overpowering.
Budget for cans are 350€ max.
HD600's look nice and price is nice, 299.90€ here, but I read that they're calm and relaxed so I wonder if they're too relaxed for Machinae Supremacy, Tiësto and etcetera.
Although my listening with cans are mostly jazz like Melody Gardot, as in a lot of vocals with calm tempo, since if I'm in the mood for fast paced music loud I will just use my speakers LOL.
P.S. I hope I put this in the correct thread.
Sent from my Galaxy Note
E: I forgot to add that I'll probably order the cans from Verkkokauppa.com, a Finnish etailer.
List of HP's they have listed
But ordering from Amazon.de or Ebay.de etcetera is not impossibility, BUT inside EU.

 

The HD 600 is a classic neutral audiophile entry can.  It is a bit hard to drive and I not familiar with the desktop amp/dac you referenced.  Be aware that you need to listening to something better than standard MP3's to make a jump to this level worth your expenditures.

 

Other great options from this page are the Beyer DT 880, HD 650 (although the price spread seems significant between it and the HD 600) and the Sony MDR-MA900 (which does not need an amp).

post #16918 of 29491
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

Both of them (as well as the Sony MDR-ZX700) are designed to be used unamped straight from portable devices.

Thanks for bringing up the Sonys again - I actually passed right by them the first time around.  They definitely sound like a better choice than the CAL!s...

 

So, I guess it comes down to now...

 

Sony MDR-ZX700 vs Philips Citiscape Downtown

 

Any thoughts on the comparison of these two?  I guess I have the same questions about the Sonys as I did about the CAL!s before - do they have too much bass, are they comfortable, do they have a durable cable, do they leak much sound, do they play mean 70s/80s music/electric guitar, etc...?

 

Thanks.


Edited by Slivortal - 7/25/12 at 2:52pm
post #16919 of 29491
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Originally Posted by BullHorn View Post

Let's say I'd raised my budget to $400 and wouldn't mind if I had to add an amp, what would you guys recommend me than?

 

Closed or semi-closed, for recording/tracking with great comfort.

 

Beyerdynamic DT 880 250ohm + a cheap FIIO amp? Or a DT 770? Or DT 990? ....too much choice.

 

The 880 is the pick if you want a great formal flagship can that is neutral-ish and detail oriented (which is not good if your recording are crappy, but great if they are well done).

 

If you want a more bassy "V" shaped EQ, go to the 770 if you closed and a "v" instead of a "V".  Go for the 990 for open and the fuller "V".

post #16920 of 29491
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Originally Posted by Zoomer13 View Post

For price/performance, should I go for a Superlux HD668B and then mod it, or just bite the bullet and try out the 

AKG Q701s? I like my Senn's, but I want headphones to give me better detail and speed. I prefer less bass emphasis,

but would like it to have a nice punch in the lower ranges. Would really like to bring out the percussion and piano in my 

tracks. 

 

The emphasized upper mids/lower highs in the Superlux might be a real problem with piano music.  The Q701 is great and (in the U.S.) currently priced below their value point.  However, the Q701 does not have punchy bass.  You might be better off with Beyer DT 880.

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