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Originally Posted by seander77 View Post

I am moving more seriously from loudspeaker to a headphone based system.  Three kids under 5 make it hard to listen to music on my loudspeaker set up these days.  I have a $800-900 budget and looking for good sound that I can grow to very good sound in the future.  My preference is tonal neutrality and a more laid back sound vs "fun" or bright sound.

 

My question is for my budget how much should I put into headphones vs amp/dac.  My sources will be my Mac and CD player.  Which of the following set ups would be the best for now while allowing growth.

 

(A) $700 on headphones like HiFi-Man HE500 and $200 Amp like HiFi-Man EF2 or AudioEngine D1

 

(B) $300 on headphones probably used Sennheiser HD650 and $600 on Amp/DAC like used Centrace DACMini

 

(C) $300 on headphones probably used Sennheiser HD650 and $150 DAC like ODAC/HRT Streamer and $450 Amp like Schiit Lyr

 

(D) $300 on headphones probably used Sennheiser HD650 $450 DAC like Schiit BitFrost and $150 amp like Little Dot

 

Thanks for your opinions and suggestions.

Choose option A.  **By far** the biggest factor in sound quality is the headphone.  HE500 in particular have the best sound for the money imo and are in a different league than the Senns and most any other <$1000 headphone.  Amps cannot fill in what was never there, and (unless totally underpowered) make only very subtle differences in sound no matter what the cost.  Same is true for (non-nos) dacs.  If you have a stereo with a headphone jack, skip the headphone amp altogether if it means getting a better headphone.  

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Originally Posted by flashce View Post

I've got a budget of $150-200. I'm looking for a pair of really comfortable headphones that are... "analytical". I'd like to be able to pick out a melody or line from any instrument when I want to (obviously this depends on the production quality, etc.). A wide stereo field is preferable. I like being able to pick out the different layers of vocals, the strings and guitars, etc.

 

I listen to a lot of different styles of music, including a lot of radio and commercial pop, progressive rock and metal, ambient and psychedelic. My music can range from very slow to very complex and heavy stuff. I currently wear a pair of AKG K77s, they're alright but they're very uncomfortable to wear. 

 

Thanks in advance!! :D

 

Edit: I'm mostly going to use this with my PC, listening to music through Spotify or ~320kbps mp3s.

I can get a Sennheiser HD598 for $250. Do you guys think that fits my requirements?

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Choose option A.  **By far** the biggest factor in sound quality is the headphone.  ...Amps cannot fill in what was never there, and (unless totally underpowered) make only very subtle differences in sound no matter what the cost.  Same is true for (non-nos) dacs.  If you have a stereo with a headphone jack, skip the headphone amp altogether if it means getting a better headphone.  

 

Gee, when I read this I thought I must have actually written it and then forgotten. It's just what I've been preaching since I signed on to Headfi about 500 years ago. Of course very few of the veterans here agree, and you can expect considerable flack. Just imagine you're flying a B52 over Dresden in 1944--that should get you prepared.  tongue_smile.gif  

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Hi guys. I'm new to headphones and I think it's time that I get a decent pair. My budget is $100-$150, and I am looking for clarity all around, and while I don't want a bass that will blow my head off, I really don't want an understated bass. I have found the following:

 

-Monster NCredible NTune headphones ($150)

 

-Sony MDR-V55 ($100)

 

-Audio Technica ATH-WS55 ($100)

 

-Sennheiser HD 229 ($80)

 

-MEElectronics Air-Fi AF32 ($100)

 

-Fanny Wang 1000 Series ($170) <- a little bit out of my price range, but if it's a lot better than any of the above, I am willing to foot the price.

 

So, for my requirements, which would be the best and do you guys have any more recommendations?

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Originally Posted by seander77 View Post

I am moving more seriously from loudspeaker to a headphone based system.  Three kids under 5 make it hard to listen to music on my loudspeaker set up these days.  I have a $800-900 budget and looking for good sound that I can grow to very good sound in the future.  My preference is tonal neutrality and a more laid back sound vs "fun" or bright sound.

 

My question is for my budget how much should I put into headphones vs amp/dac.  My sources will be my Mac and CD player.  Which of the following set ups would be the best for now while allowing growth.

 

(A) $700 on headphones like HiFi-Man HE500 and $200 Amp like HiFi-Man EF2 or AudioEngine D1

 

(B) $300 on headphones probably used Sennheiser HD650 and $600 on Amp/DAC like used Centrace DACMini

 

(C) $300 on headphones probably used Sennheiser HD650 and $150 DAC like ODAC/HRT Streamer and $450 Amp like Schiit Lyr

 

(D) $300 on headphones probably used Sennheiser HD650 $450 DAC like Schiit BitFrost and $150 amp like Little Dot

 

Thanks for your opinions and suggestions.

Choose option A.  **By far** the biggest factor in sound quality is the headphone.  HE500 in particular have the best sound for the money imo and are in a different league than the Senns and most any other <$1000 headphone.  Amps cannot fill in what was never there, and (unless totally underpowered) make only very subtle differences in sound no matter what the cost.  Same is true for (non-nos) dacs.  If you have a stereo with a headphone jack, skip the headphone amp altogether if it means getting a better headphone.  

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Gee, when I read this I thought I must have actually written it and then forgotten. It's just what I've been preaching since I signed on to Headfi about 500 years ago. Of course very few of the veterans here agree, and you can expect considerable flack. Just imagine you're flying a B52 over Dresden in 1944--that should get you prepared.  tongue_smile.gif  

Eucariote and pp312,

 

(A) was my first thought as well which is why I put it first.  I am hoping if people disagree they can explain there thoughts.  Can anyone think of a amp capable for powering the HiFi Man HE-500s that is around $200.  I am guessing I might be able to stretch my budget and buy a Schitt Asgard.  Would the asgard have enough power to the HE-500s.

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Originally Posted by seander77 View Post
(A) was my first thought as well which is why I put it first.  I am hoping if people disagree they can explain there thoughts.  Can anyone think of a amp capable for powering the HiFi Man HE-500s that is around $200.  I am guessing I might be able to stretch my budget and buy a Schitt Asgard.  Would the asgard have enough power to the HE-500s.

 

With a budget of $200, I would recommend the O2. In fact, it is a good choice regardless of the price if you do not mind the "semi-portable" design (all connectors on the front panel, 1/8" jacks).

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Sennheiser HD558   vs.   ATH-AD700 ?  :

 

 

 

 

I have large ears;  ATH-M40's and Koss DJ-100 felt very uncomfortable!

 

I am not a Bass head. Accurate bass is fine.

 

VOCALS:  I really need to hear smooth vocals, forward in the mix (Dianna Krall. Lee Ann Womack (country), etc.

 

Trying to stay around $100 or so.

 

Which (if either) of these 2?

 

thx

 

bob

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thinking about getting the k550.but with the no detachable cable might encounter some problems with shorting. If i had it recabled with cardas cable does it gurantee a long life?

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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

 

The Q701 needs an amp.

I looked up the impedance of the 701 and it looks like it's 62ohm.

From that number I'm assuming it's quite an easy can to drive? (Amp not exactly 'required') - Speaking of amps, next purchase should be an Asgard. 

 

 

If you had ~$300AUD to spend, and you had Pro700mk2 ANV what would you go for?

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Originally Posted by seander77 View Post

William,

Thanks for the response.  Am I correct to read your reply to say that you are in the (D) category with the DAC being more important than Amp in starting up a system?  
Dac ain't that important amp and headphones are more important
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Sennheiser HD558   vs.   ATH-AD700 ?  :

 

I have large ears;  ATH-M40's and Koss DJ-100 felt very uncomfortable!

I am not a Bass head. Accurate bass is fine.

VOCALS:  I really need to hear smooth vocals, forward in the mix (Dianna Krall. Lee Ann Womack (country), etc.

Trying to stay around $100 or so.

Which (if either) of these 2?

ATH-AD700, good for listening to relaxing audio, vocals on TV, rests lightly on the head.

I guess the ATH-AD700 light bass helps mids and highs stand out better?

But I'm 10 times more likely to reach for my HD558s, because most audio I listen to (music and movies) sound better with decent bass.

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

ATH-AD700, good for listening to relaxing audio, vocals on TV, rests lightly on the head.

I guess the ATH-AD700 light bass helps mids and highs stand out better?

But I'm 10 times more likely to reach for my HD558s, because most audio I listen to (music and movies) sound better with decent bass.


You have both?   Which are more comfortable?

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Originally Posted by William007 View Post

Dac ain't that important amp and headphones are more important
If i were you i'dd just buy aschiit asgard and hd650
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Originally Posted by steelgtr View Post


You have both?   Which are more comfortable?

Technically the ATH-AD700s are more comfortable, they rest very lightly on the head and the grip from the cups is very light.

The joke is they fall off when you move your head, which does not happen (your mind just thinks that's going to happen).

So you can wear the ATH-AD700 for hours and hours and hours non-stop.

 

Where as the HD558s do have more grip, but with the oval shaped cups, they rest around the ear more comfortable then regular O shaped cups.

The oval shape does not overlap the jaw like normal O shaped cups.

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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

HD598 is really comfy, too, and light. 

 

The HD598 seems like a better choice since I won't need an amp with it. I don't really feel like spending more for an amp to power the DT880. Hows the build quality between the HD598 and DT880? I'm planning to use these headphones while I'm laying down so something more durable would be prefer also considering comfort.

 

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Originally Posted by gonkulator View Post

Agreed, and ditto the 880 if you can find it for $200. Also, the HD 595 if you want to go even cheaper.

 

Yeah I think I might have to up my budget to $250.

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