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post #14206 of 29490

Have become more and more into good sound, both in music as well as for film and games. This all resulted in that I bought myself a Xonar STX sound card, which in turn was connected to my speaker system with separate base via a receiver. Now I have decided to buy a pair of nice headphones, in a price range around 150-400 dollars, and could use some help. I've Googled frenetically for a few weeks, without satisfactory results. The purpose is mainly music, so it should be the focus, but I like to use headphones to other things as well. A pair of full size is just what I imagined, closed or open doesn't matter, but the one that fits the mixed taste in music. I listen quite a bit to metal, but it happens, quite often, that I turn on some pop songs, dance music, or something else. Just to demonstrate the variation I can name a few recurring names in my lists, a few swedish:
Creedence Clearwater Revival, Daniel Adams-Ray, Deadmau5, In Flames, Kapten Röd, Korn, Las Palmas, Skrillex, Slipknot and System of a Down.

Would be very grateful if someone could give me a suitable alternative. Thanks!

EDIT: I think clarity is important, and despite aggressive music is very distorted, I'd like to hear what is sung and played. I would also like to have some bass, the headphones should be able to deliver the power and weight that is required when you listen to that kind of music. I'm planning to use the headphones at home, mainly, but they could also be used when I travel. This is not a requirement, though, and I would rather see more appropriate headphones, which only can be used at home, than being able to carry them with me.

post #14207 of 29490

 

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Originally Posted by Jaos View Post

Have become more and more into good sound, both in music as well as for film and games. This all resulted in that I bought myself a Xonar STX sound card, which in turn was connected to my speaker system with separate base via a receiver. Now I have decided to buy a pair of nice headphones, in a price range around 150-400 dollars, and could use some help. I've Googled frenetically for a few weeks, without satisfactory results. The purpose is mainly music, so it should be the focus, but I like to use headphones to other things as well. A pair of full size is just what I imagined, closed or open doesn't matter, but the one that fits the mixed taste in music. I listen quite a bit to metal, but it happens, quite often, that I turn on some pop songs, dance music, or something else. Just to demonstrate the variation I can name a few recurring names in my lists, a few swedish:
Creedence Clearwater Revival, Daniel Adams-Ray, Deadmau5, In Flames, Kapten Röd, Korn, Las Palmas, Skrillex, Slipknot and System of a Down.

Would be very grateful if someone could give me a suitable alternative. Thanks!

EDIT: I think clarity is important, and despite aggressive music is very distorted, I'd like to hear what is sung and played. I would also like to have some bass, the headphones should be able to deliver the power and weight that is required when you listen to that kind of music. I'm planning to use the headphones at home, mainly, but they could also be used when I travel. This is not a requirement, though, and I would rather see more appropriate headphones, which only can be used at home, than being able to carry them with me.

 

That is a wide gap in your budget. I understand that you probably mean that if it sounds that much better you'll pay that much more, but my (limited) experience has been that as things get really expensive (say above $500) the incremental improvement in sound quality does not equal the proportionate increase in price. So what I'm saying is at this price range you'll still find a big difference in $150 headphones and $400 headphones. 

I may not be the best guy to recommend phones as I haven't listened to a great deal of them but I've heard a few good ones in the lower end of that price range. I've also heard excellent reviews of the Denon D2000, and for $50 more than your budget cap you can get the D5000 which are very highly acclaimed. 


Edited by mKat - 4/20/12 at 1:01pm
post #14208 of 29490

Hi guys,

 

Need recommendation of some headphones. Here's what I have it narrowed down to so far based on wanting to have ipod controls and microphone and not in ear headphones.

 

-Philips Fidelio L1

-Sennheiser Amperior

-B&W P5

-PSB M4U 2

 

But I'm also looking at the following

 

Sennheiser HD 598 and the HD 650

 

Previous headphones I've had were the

 

Grado Sr-60, SR-80, SR-325, and Sennehesier HD 203, Shure 215s?

post #14209 of 29490

 

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Originally Posted by mKat View Post

Could anyone with experience add to what has already been said about the differences between the 

 

Ultrasone HFI-580 and HFI-780 ???


I've searched and read at least 4 threads on the subject, but there seems to be almost no one who can provide a detailed comparison. 

From several places I've gathered that:

 

  • BOTH have a lively sound with bright, forward highs and good bass, and somewhat recessed mids. 
  • The 780's have more soundstage at the expense of some bass
  • The 580's have more bass at the expense of some soundstage. 
  • People seem to have a marginally higher satisfaction rate with the 580's but that was before the price of the 780's plummetted to within $15 of the 580's (BHPhoto Prices). 
  • The 580's are recognized as more "fun" and the 780's as more detailed, less sibilant. 

 

What I'm still wondering is the following:

 

Q. The 780's have better soundstage...but what does that say about the soundstage of the 580's? Is it non-existent?

Q. Is there a chasm of difference regarding bass?
Q. Are the mids on either so recessed that good female vocal tracks will sound hollow compared the sparkling highs? Or is either phone (particularly the 780 I'd guess) still capable of reproducing good vocal-centric music?

Q. Despite the low impedence of both phones, Apparently the 780 needs an amp to come into its own, while almost everyone asserts that the 580 sounds great from a portable device. 

Q. Given that the 780's can be had for only $14 more than the 580's, does that make them an obvious choice for my needs (below)?

 

I'm looking for a phone in this price range for strings, vocals, and some ambient electronic. 

 

 

I'd go for HFi 780's purely because they're the high end model of the same series of headphones from the same manufacturers. Assuming that there is some logic in pricing and model numbering, I'd guess 780's would be better.  I have no experience with either, I've only heard the Pro models and my own HFi 2400. I didn't like the Pro models, but I can tell you that 2400's are better than HD650's in virtually every way. 780's should be a closed version of that.

post #14210 of 29490

 

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Originally Posted by AdmiralButthurt View Post

I have HD555 (foam modded) with Auzentech Prelude 7.1 sound card. It's been a solid investment at around $250 but I'm curious if there is anything I can do as this setup is approaching 4 years in age. I love the clarity and the neutrality, but the bass could still use a bit more punch.

 

Is there anything that would significantly improve SQ for under $100 (would Fiio E10's do anything for me?) or would I have to move up to $150 for a new pair of cans?

I'm guessing new cans.

 

 

post #14211 of 29490

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by mKat View Post

Could anyone with experience add to what has already been said about the differences between the 

 

Ultrasone HFI-580 and HFI-780 ???


I've searched and read at least 4 threads on the subject, but there seems to be almost no one who can provide a detailed comparison. 

From several places I've gathered that:

 

  • BOTH have a lively sound with bright, forward highs and good bass, and somewhat recessed mids. 
  • The 780's have more soundstage at the expense of some bass
  • The 580's have more bass at the expense of some soundstage. 
  • People seem to have a marginally higher satisfaction rate with the 580's but that was before the price of the 780's plummetted to within $15 of the 580's (BHPhoto Prices). 
  • The 580's are recognized as more "fun" and the 780's as more detailed, less sibilant. 

 

What I'm still wondering is the following:

 

Q. The 780's have better soundstage...but what does that say about the soundstage of the 580's? Is it non-existent?

Q. Is there a chasm of difference regarding bass?
Q. Are the mids on either so recessed that good female vocal tracks will sound hollow compared the sparkling highs? Or is either phone (particularly the 780 I'd guess) still capable of reproducing good vocal-centric music?

Q. Despite the low impedence of both phones, Apparently the 780 needs an amp to come into its own, while almost everyone asserts that the 580 sounds great from a portable device. 

Q. Given that the 780's can be had for only $14 more than the 580's, does that make them an obvious choice for my needs (below)?

 

I'm looking for a phone in this price range for strings, vocals, and some ambient electronic. 

 

That's probably because the two cans appeal to very different customers.

 

From this buying guide:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/headphone-buying-guide

 

Ultrasone HFI-580, $120-$190. Folds for portability, good build quality, and decent isolation. Fun, clean, V shaped sound. Deep punchy clean bass, slightly recessed mids, bright, sometimes fatiguing, highs. Some sibilance.

 

Ultrasone HFI-780, $155-$250. Good isolation, iffy build quality, easy to drive. Strong clear bass, slightly forward mids, bright highs.

post #14212 of 29490

Ok, so I'm trying to find a pair of headphones to add to my collection. Currently I have a pair of the Shure SRH940's and the Grado 325si's. I don't love the Grado sound, and I pretty much always use the Shure SRH940. My amp is a little dot mkiii.

 

My predicament is that I just purchased a pair of dt-880/600ohm cans and they have not quite lived up to my expectation. Although they have a wider soundstage than the SRH-940, I ultimately prefer the Shure's, finding them to have a fuller overall sound with more midrange and livelier bass. That being said, the dt-880's are among some of the finer sounding headphones that I've heard, and there are many similarities between the two. My only complaint with my 940's is that the high's can sometimes be a bit harsh, but I've grown to not mind this as much as I used to. I really like the semi-open quality of the 880's, because for lack of a better way to put it, they aren't too open but they aren't too closed. I just wish they had much more pronounced mids.

 

Here is the best description I can come up with of what I'm looking for:

Something with a lush, very present and pronounced, yet smooth and soothing sounding mid-range (not recessed like the 880's). A deep, textured bass that is at least neutral in strength. Upper-mids/highs should be clear and resonant, with realistic treble--as clear and present as possible without being harsh.

 

I know that it may sound like im just trying to describe the perfect headphone, and if that's the case then try to use my opinion of the headphones I own as a guide. the more opinions I can hear the better. I want something that can do everything my SRH940's can do and more. I've heard a lot of praise for the T1's but I'm not ready to spend that kind of money. I'd like to keep it to $500 if possible. Thanks for your help. 


Edited by RBNYC2 - 4/20/12 at 8:29pm
post #14213 of 29490

 

My mom’s birthday is coming up and one thing I know she needs it a new pair of headphones. She’s been using the awful Apple earbuds for a couple of years so she definitely needs something better. I don’t know a lot about headphones so I need some guidance here. I was looking at the Sennheiser HD 518's but I have no idea if those are good choice or not. 

 

 

Comfort: Needs to be extremely comfortable, preferably lightweight and something that doesn’t bother you after having them on for a long time.

 

Use: Will primarily be used for watching movies/tv shows on her iPad 2 (80% of the time) and on the computer (20% of the time). She listens to classical music but has yet to play it anywhere else but in her car but I’m certain this will change at some point so it’d be good to have headphones that are suitable for that type of music as well.

 

Style: Something that won't look to ridiculous on a 50 year old woman. Then again, she probably wouldn't care too much about the style. 

 

Budget: $200. 

 

Thanks in advance to any help guidance you guys can provide. 

post #14214 of 29490

/\ @ ...0101--I think that you are on the right track.  I suggest that you go up to the HD 558, as it is more comfortable and sounds better too.  The 558 will give her a bigger/better sound stage, which is great for classical music.


Edited by KG Jag - 4/20/12 at 11:49pm
post #14215 of 29490

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by RBNYC2 View Post

Ok, so I'm trying to find a pair of headphones to add to my collection. Currently I have a pair of the Shure SRH940's and the Grado 325si's. I don't love the Grado sound, and I pretty much always use the Shure SRH940. My amp is a little dot mkiii.

 

My predicament is that I just purchased a pair of dt-880/600ohm cans and they have not quite lived up to my expectation. Although they have a wider soundstage than the SRH-940, I ultimately prefer the Shure's, finding them to have a fuller overall sound with more midrange and livelier bass. That being said, the dt-880's are among some of the finer sounding headphones that I've heard, and there are many similarities between the two. My only complaint with my 940's is that the high's can sometimes be a bit harsh, but I've grown to not mind this as much as I used to. I really like the semi-open quality of the 880's, because for lack of a better way to put it, they aren't too open but they aren't too closed. I just wish they had much more pronounced mids.

 

Here is the best description I can come up with of what I'm looking for:

Something with a lush, very present and pronounced, yet smooth and soothing sounding mid-range (not recessed like the 880's). A deep, textured bass that is at least neutral in strength. Upper-mids/highs should be clear and resonant, with realistic treble--as clear and present as possible without being harsh.

 

I know that it may sound like im just trying to describe the perfect headphone, and if that's the case then try to use my opinion of the headphones I own as a guide. the more opinions I can hear the better. I want something that can do everything my SRH940's can do and more. I've heard a lot of praise for the T1's but I'm not ready to spend that kind of money. I'd like to keep it to $500 if possible. Thanks for your help. 

 


Perhaps the Denon D5000 would fit both your budget and wishes.

post #14216 of 29490

Hey guys! I'm after some advice.. It seems this is the biggest forum around, so I thought I might give it a try. I'm a journo, and I need a new set of cans for sound/video editing. Here's what I am after:

 

  • Great isolation. This is very important to me. I need to be able to focus just on the sound to find any blemishes I need to edit out in the piece. It might be a breath I need to remove, or finding the spacing between two short-spaced sentences when I am inserting a quote into a radio or video broadcast. If I'm getting background noise from the air conditioning duct/office sound/dripping tap etc, it will throw me, and I might just miss something.
  • Outstanding sound quality when used with an amp, great sound quality when it isn't. On the latter, I plan to use these headphones at home a bit for gaming/music/movies, but I don't have an amp at home. I don't plan to buy one for a little while, but I still want to be able to use the cans and get great quality out of them. I'm running a Xonar DX on the computer. On the former, I'll be using amps at work, so this is where the sound quality has to be at its highest. I don't plan on doing any work at home if I can avoid it.
  • Not over the top on the bass. I'm aware that I'll probably end up with a set of closed cans which doesn't help, but I'm sure that there is a set out there that fits the criteria. It should support rather than be a major feature. I've always found people using headphones that are heavy on the bass kill any sound editing they do for broadcast. They overcompensate. Besides, most people at home watching/listening to the news don't exactly have the bass cranking. I want cans that will reproduce sound as close to what most mainstream audiences listen to the news at.
  • For at home use, I have a few bits and pieces to mention. Gaming wise, I'd like something that still gives good positional cues. It doesn't need to be crazy good, although that would be a bonus, but I do want it to be worthy of some light-medium gaming. I tend to play RPG's more than FPS's, and I don't play competitively i.e for money/trophies etc. Music wise, it is generally rock and classical music. And if it does a good job at movies that would be nice. At a guess, I'd say 40% work stuff, 30% gaming, 20% music and 10% movies.
  • Price wise, I'm looking at under AUD200. Journos get paid jack. frown.gif

 

Any thoughts? I was thinking A700's might be an option, but I haven't actually had too much experience in buying headphones.

 

 

post #14217 of 29490

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by mKat View Post

 

 

That is a wide gap in your budget. I understand that you probably mean that if it sounds that much better you'll pay that much more, but my (limited) experience has been that as things get really expensive (say above $500) the incremental improvement in sound quality does not equal the proportionate increase in price. So what I'm saying is at this price range you'll still find a big difference in $150 headphones and $400 headphones. 

I may not be the best guy to recommend phones as I haven't listened to a great deal of them but I've heard a few good ones in the lower end of that price range. I've also heard excellent reviews of the Denon D2000, and for $50 more than your budget cap you can get the D5000 which are very highly acclaimed. 

 

Seems like a decent pick, however, after further searching I found that everything in the US costs alot more here. While the Denon D5000 costs 450$, as you say, it costs about the double where I live. Anybody else got some suggestions? I'll still keep the D2000 in mind though!


Edited by Jaos - 4/21/12 at 6:29am
post #14218 of 29490

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinh4u2 View Post

Type of Music:

I listen to mainly Kpop.

 

Woot woot, k-pop :D. I'm new too but welcome!

 

Hello again guys, I posted 3 days ago about how I wanted headphones with a wider soundstage and something that won't leak out. Luckily I don't need the SR60/80 grados anymore because I got the SR125i's for a cheap price(but thanks for the insight NukeCT!) but I'm still on a hunt for some good closed cans. Read about the Koss ProDJ 100 and I'm really impressed so I'm just wondering if someone can give me a second yes to it to finalize my purchase. I'm not a big basshead and a lot of people are taking note of how the bass is a bit shy on the Koss. I don't mind having bass but as long as I can get pretty good/clean bass, I'd be fine.

I'm reducing my budget to <$100(at most $150) simply because I realized that probably the most ideal thing w/ a wide soundstage plus being closed would be the Denon D5000's(correct me if I'm wrong) and I'm really starting to feel sorry for my wallet so I'm gonna let it recover for now. And I also need to save up for the Fiio E17 to replace my uDac-2. I listen to different genres, mostly house right now but that's as of right now so really I want all around headphones can be considered good with any genre.


Budget: $100($150 at most but that's somewhat pushing the envelope too far)

Genre of Music: All/Any

What I want from it: Wide soundstage(I have the HD25-1 II's and the soundstage is so tiny) and closed/won't leak out when I'm in the library.

Potential Candidate: Koss ProDJ 100, Denon D5000(Can someone confirm me on this? I think I wanna save up for them b/c they look really nice compared to the senns)

 

Lastly, I'd like to say nay on the Audio-Technica M50's tried them and they're okay, I wouldn't really pay $150 for them but if you guys wanna convince me that's ok too :).

 

Thanks guys!

 


Edited by jjacq - 4/21/12 at 7:43am
post #14219 of 29490

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jjacq View Post

Quote:

 

Woot woot, k-pop :D. I'm new too but welcome!

 

Hello again guys, I posted 3 days ago about how I wanted headphones with a wider soundstage and something that won't leak out. Luckily I don't need the SR60/80 grados anymore because I got the SR125i's for a cheap price(but thanks for the insight NukeCT!) but I'm still on a hunt for some good closed cans. Read about the Koss ProDJ 100 and I'm really impressed so I'm just wondering if someone can give me a second yes to it to finalize my purchase. I'm not a big basshead and a lot of people are taking note of how the bass is a bit shy on the Koss. I don't mind having bass but as long as I can get pretty good/clean bass, I'd be fine.

I'm reducing my budget to <$100(at most $150) simply because I realized that probably the most ideal thing w/ a wide soundstage plus being closed would be the Denon D5000's(correct me if I'm wrong) and I'm really starting to feel sorry for my wallet so I'm gonna let it recover for now. And I also need to save up for the Fiio E17 to replace my uDac-2. I listen to different genres, mostly house right now but that's as of right now so really I want all around headphones can be considered good with any genre.


Budget: $100($150 at most but that's somewhat pushing the envelope too far)

Genre of Music: All/Any

What I want from it: Wide soundstage(I have the HD25-1 II's and the soundstage is so tiny) and closed/won't leak out when I'm in the library.

Potential Candidate: Koss ProDJ 100, Denon D5000(Can someone confirm me on this? I think I wanna save up for them b/c they look really nice compared to the senns)

 

Lastly, I'd like to say nay on the Audio-Technica M50's tried them and they're okay, I wouldn't really pay $150 for them but if you guys wanna convince me that's ok too :).

 

Thanks guys!

 

 

Since you're into any music genre, then maybe you'd prefer something with a neutral sound signature? A pair of monitors, like the ATH-M50 might be a good option (though they're highly overrated, in my opinion). 

 

Are you against IEMs? I realize that they're not quite as wide in soundstage compared to a lot of cans, but the isolation is usually top-notch, as is imaging. The Triple-Fi 10s can be found for a bargain every once in a while (their MSRP is around 300 USD, but you can nab them for 150 if you're lucky). Those IEMs will last you a long time; I found them to be build like a tank, though the size is just a wee bit large.

 

Not a likely choice, but still something to keep in mind.

 

Anyway, I second the Koss ProDJ 100. They're a good choice for varied musical tastes, though I can't commend their durability. Isolation is great.

 

Good luck!

 

EDIT:

By the way, if you're going for the M50s, maybe you'd be okay with getting the silver Limited Edition version? For one thing, they look extremely sexy, and I'm still not sure whether or not they're any different in terms of SQ, so it'd be nice to get some feedback. Sorry for asking you to play the guinea pig :P


Edited by ZetsuBozu0012 - 4/21/12 at 7:59am
post #14220 of 29490

^ Unfortunately I can't do IEMs because my ear canal is tiny. Even my doctor said it T_T... Also, I tried them but I don't really think I'd pay $150 for them and I guess it's just because of my budget though. I'll see if someone else has an opinion because someone recommended the Fostex T50RP and I have no idea how they are with isolation and soundstage.

 

*EDIT*

Got my 125i's today and I'm a believer! The bass is a bit shy compared to other headphones that I've heard but that's okay, everything else is awesome. :)


Edited by jjacq - 4/21/12 at 8:38am
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