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post #13501 of 29490

Hi All,

New here and looking for a little advice on picking up a decent set set of over ears.

Most listening will be done via laptop or iPhone at home and have a budget of about $350 (wife approvedbigsmile_face.gif). I primarily listen to rock and acoustic music - Aimee Mann, Decemberists, Radiohead, Black Keys but also some faster/heavier stuff Rise Against/Darkest Hour etc. And the recording quality varies from iTunes downloads to Apple Lossless CD rips. I wouldn't describe myself as a basshead and realistically I'd like to have these headphones for a while so build, overall sound quality and listening enjoyment are the key. I'm not generally a super analytical listener, which is good given that some of the source material is not the highest quality. 

Having listened to quite a range of headphones my current favourite (within my budget) is the AKG Q701 ($349), that said this represents a challenge since that doesn't leave any budget for the headphone amp these so desparetly need. I could listen to them off my reciever (HK AVR 147) for a couple of months until I can afford to pick up a portable headphone amp like the E17. While all of my listening with these will be done at home a desktop or A/C powered headphone is out of the question as it's just too bulky for moving between rooms etc and I don't want to spend more then $150 on an amp regardless. So I guess the question is should I stagger the purchase to ensure I'm getting the best headphones, or is something easier to drive and more cost effective the right choice ie. Focal Spirit One or Phillips L1.

 

Other headphones I have listened to are:

AKG K550 - Enjoyed the overall sound, but found the pads made my ears overly warm.

Grado - 225is & 325is - not comfortable, overall not a fan of the sound signature. 

Beyer DT990 - Was a while ago, comfortable but don't remember being blown away.

Hifiman HE300 - Good, just didn't quite grab me the way the Q701's did. Felt a little slow??

B&O P55 - Obviously aimed at portability, but well built, good sound and very comfortable.

 

Cheers!

post #13502 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Dalbion View Post

Hi All,

New here and looking for a little advice on picking up a decent set set of over ears.

Most listening will be done via laptop or iPhone at home and have a budget of about $350 (wife approvedbigsmile_face.gif). I primarily listen to rock and acoustic music - Aimee Mann, Decemberists, Radiohead, Black Keys but also some faster/heavier stuff Rise Against/Darkest Hour etc. And the recording quality varies from iTunes downloads to Apple Lossless CD rips. I wouldn't describe myself as a basshead and realistically I'd like to have these headphones for a while so build, overall sound quality and listening enjoyment are the key. I'm not generally a super analytical listener, which is good given that some of the source material is not the highest quality. 

Having listened to quite a range of headphones my current favourite (within my budget) is the AKG Q701 ($349), that said this represents a challenge since that doesn't leave any budget for the headphone amp these so desparetly need. I could listen to them off my reciever (HK AVR 147) for a couple of months until I can afford to pick up a portable headphone amp like the E17. While all of my listening with these will be done at home a desktop or A/C powered headphone is out of the question as it's just too bulky for moving between rooms etc and I don't want to spend more then $150 on an amp regardless. So I guess the question is should I stagger the purchase to ensure I'm getting the best headphones, or is something easier to drive and more cost effective the right choice ie. Focal Spirit One or Phillips L1.

 

Other headphones I have listened to are:

AKG K550 - Enjoyed the overall sound, but found the pads made my ears overly warm.

Grado - 225is & 325is - not comfortable, overall not a fan of the sound signature. 

Beyer DT990 - Was a while ago, comfortable but don't remember being blown away.

Hifiman HE300 - Good, just didn't quite grab me the way the Q701's did. Felt a little slow??

B&O P55 - Obviously aimed at portability, but well built, good sound and very comfortable.

 

Cheers!




Get the better headphones and build from there.

 

Also check out this open box special on the Q 701 and then check for coupon codes that might make it even cheaper:

 

http://www.electronics-expo.com/akg-q701premium-class-reference-headphones-quincy-jones-signature-line-green-ob

post #13503 of 29490
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Originally Posted by swerrdy View Post

Buying Advice...

Price range= $150-$200

I will be listening to mostly dubstep house etc and rap/hip-hop with a little bit of rock followed by everything else.

I will not be buying an amp just yet so I would like the headphones to sound fine without one, but I will eventually get one.

 

My bother has the audio technica m50, I have listened to them and I like them, but that is coming from a history of white apple earbuds...

It also seems like all roads lead to the m50's from the research I have done so far. 

They have to be popular for a reason, I just want to make sure there isn't anything a bit better out there that I am missing.

 

thanks!

If you like the sound of the M50s, then get the Ultrasone HFI 580....They do everything that the M50s could do, but take it to another level in every way possible.
 

 

post #13504 of 29490
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I would recommend Closed. But if one open headphones are AMAZING. Then I will go with open. Closed preferred. But I want a sound stage bad.


If you want sound stage bad, get open, for sure.

 

post #13505 of 29490
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If you want sound stage bad, get open, for sure.

 



I was told the AKG K550 did a great job with soundstage even though it's closed back. It's a great compromise for both. It was designed with Open sound signatures in mind. 

post #13506 of 29490
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I was told the AKG K550 did a great job with soundstage even though it's closed back. It's a great compromise for both. It was designed with Open sound signatures in mind. 


But i think open headphones will give better soundstage no matter what. :) That's just my 2 cents.

 

post #13507 of 29490
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I was told the AKG K550 did a great job with soundstage even though it's closed back. It's a great compromise for both. It was designed with Open sound signatures in mind. 


I would like to hear from someone who has more than passing experience with the K 550 and Q 701.  Both are AKG mid-priced cans.  I would be surprised if the closed K 550 has as good/wide a sound stage as the Q 701.  The final proof of course is in the listening.

 

Fact is I have not yet heard a closed can with a sound stage that can rival the Q 701 or Senn HD 598 and up.  Some day I hope that I will.

 

post #13508 of 29490
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I would like to hear from someone who has more than passing experience with the K 550 and Q 701.  Both are AKG mid-priced cans.  I would be surprised if the closed K 550 has as good/wide a sound stage as the Q 701.  The final proof of course is in the listening.

 

Fact is I have not yet heard a closed can with a sound stage that can rival the Q 701 or Senn HD 598 and up.  Some day I hope that I will.

 



Your best bet is Denon D5000/7000's. But don't bet on them having openness of open cans, that is just acoustically impossible.

post #13509 of 29490
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Your best bet is Denon D5000/7000's. But don't bet on them having openness of open cans, that is just acoustically impossible.


I agree--the D7000 has the best sound stage I have heard with any closed can--especially when the D7000 is properly amped.

 

That said, it's still behind the open cans I mentioned.

 

post #13510 of 29490

 

I'm looking for bass: Sennheiser HD 219, HD 228?
Or another one that you think is better at less than $50. Remember i'm looking for bass.
post #13511 of 29490

ATHM50S or Vmoda LP2 or Vmoda M80??? 

Really loving the vmodas just dont know which pair to get

post #13512 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Defender0fAloha View Post

ATHM50S or Vmoda LP2 or Vmoda M80??? 

Really loving the vmodas just dont know which pair to get



ATH M50 hands down IMO

post #13513 of 29490
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Well, so which would be your primary headphone? I can easily see you being disappointed with the home setup if the Shures sound better, and you'll probably notice more since there's not as much ambient noise. Regardless, look into the ones I mentioned, and also into some budget desktop amps, since most open headphones in this range will probably like some kind of amp anyway.

 


I would say time spent would be 50/50, since I won't be home all that much. I thought headphones would be able to get better quality sound for a lower price compared to IEMs, since there isn't as much of a size constraint - am I wrong there? My room's pretty quiet generally, so the ambient noise shouldn't be too much of a problem I think, but thanks for the suggestions :)

 


Between IEMs and full-sized headphones, there are generally a few tradeoffs. At least in my experience, IEMs generally have a soundstage that's a full order of magnitude smaller than even moderate closed headphones have, but can offer more detail, since they're a bit closer to your ear, and less treble detail gets lost. Sound-wise, I always have trouble comparing IEMs to over-ears, because the experience is so different, and it can come down to personal preference sometimes. However, there are definitely benefits to getting a solid pair of over-ears for home use, and I'd advise you to get the best ones you can. 

 



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A number of you folks with just a general idea of what you're looking for would be well served by spending some time looking at these buying guides, followed by some due diligence on your own concerning the cans from the lists that you find to be of interest.  Once you do that, you will receive better answers when you're ready to post your question.

 

Start here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/headphone-buying-guide

 

and here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/buying-guide-headphones-by-price-range


Maybe we can get the OP to put this on the first page and tell people to read it in the thread title, since this will get buried fast.

 



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Originally Posted by sTaTIx View Post

Aside from Stax and other electrostatics, what dynamic headphones achieves the closest alternative in terms of offering sheer transparency, clarity, transient speed, and "airiness" that are the usual hallmarks of electrostatics? I've heard that some models of the Ultrasones offer some amazing clarity and detail, at the expense of sounding too harsh or bright to some people. I don't really mind a bright sound signature however, as long as the mids are still sweet and prominent, along with a good amount of bass. I've listened to Stax earspeakers before, and they sounded absolutely amazing, but they're a little out of my price range at this point in time. Anything at all even remotely similar in the dynamic headphone realm?


Planar magnetic headphones like the Hifiman HE-series and Audeze's LCD-2/3 are supposed to have the speed, but I don't know about the airiness. 

 



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Not enough bass, probably. The TF10s are bass-heavy, and many find the K701 to be bass-light. Perhaps look into the Denon D2000s?

 


Fair enough, though i think we need him to specify open or closed, since he mentioned iPod use, and all the cans he mention are closed.

 



I would recommend Closed. But if one open headphones are AMAZING. Then I will go with open. Closed preferred. But I want a sound stage bad.


As I mentioned above, I find full-sized headphones to generally have much bigger soundstages than IEMs, even if it's not that big compared to other full-sized headphones. Also, the D2000 is supposed to have a pretty big soundstage as far as closed headphones go, and will give you the sound signature you're used to on your TF10s.

 



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Originally Posted by josem0892 View Post

 

I'm looking for bass: Sennheiser HD 219, HD 228?
Or another one that you think is better at less than $50. Remember i'm looking for bass.


AKG K81 and Sony XB500

 



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Originally Posted by Defender0fAloha View Post

ATHM50S or Vmoda LP2 or Vmoda M80??? 

Really loving the vmodas just dont know which pair to get


The M80s are more balanced than the LP2s (which are very bassy), but are on-ear portables, if you're uncomfortable with that. The M50s are solid contenders as well, so it will all depend on what you requirements are for portability, comfort, isolation, and sound signature.

 

post #13514 of 29490

want to buy a pair of headphones for my friend.  he's not really an audiophile.  he likes rock & classical... 

 

I don't want to spend more than like $36..

 

should i get sennheiser HD201 for $20, HD202 for $30

 

Panasonic HTF-600 for $34,   closed...tiny bit open? 

 

Superlux HD681 for $36?   semi open

 

thanks

 

post #13515 of 29490

Do the Sennheiser HD25-1 II's require an amp? Or will my phone be able to drive them just fine?

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