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Can somebody explain this graph to me please.

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1973&graphID[]=3201&graphID[]=1723&graphID[]=3101

 

The ultrasones are supposed to be bass monsters with a "v" shaped curve but this graph shows the HFI 580 having a very similar frequency response to the shure 940 and the pro 550/780 being mid centric confused.gif

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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Isolation is typically noise from outside trying to get in. Leakage is usually sound your headphone produces going out into the world.
IEMs are really interesting. You've probably seen people talking about all sorts of tips they've tried and it's true, you do have to try out a bunch of tips to see what you need to feel comfortable, but once you find them you are good to go and you can wear them for hours and hours. I personally wear my custom IEMs about 8-10 hours a day with no discomfort at all. Some universals can be even easier to get a comfortable fit than customs, especially if you use the foam tips that you compress then allow to expand and fill your ear gap like a glove.
I haven't heard the RS1, but I have heard the RS2. My comments on those are in the Austin link in my signature. Good cans. Both the Q701 and HD650 will need a beefy amp to not sound dull, but even if you get a great amp the HD650 will still be very dark and the Q701 will be very bright so you've got both ends of the spectrum, with your M80s sitting somewhere in between with a little 'fun' splashed on the frequency response chart.

 

 

Hmm. So would any of these headphones truly outperform the m-80s? I kind of feel like they are all much pricier so would do better in most areas but just have uneven distributions of where they are the strongest. Do you have a recommendation between those headphones? 

 

If I have one complaint about my headphones, it is some music is pretty harsh. I love guitar shreds and some club music but they almost sound like they are about the break apart when I have the music on a bit louder. It creates some irritatbility. I want something that would make some of this music softer and let me enjoy the details at high volumes without certain notes suddenly making my ears cringe. 

 

Also, when you say I need a significant amp to drive those headphones, what amp would I need? Would an E11 not be enough? 

Sorry I am very new to discussing audio and I really don't know all the language that is used to describe various effects. I'm mostly a gamer so I feel like I want to say that I want anti-aliasing for my music or something to that effect. Something to smooth out the rough edges that may or may not be inherent in the actual music I am playing.

 


Edited by DNZGamer - 3/20/12 at 4:12am
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Hey there, looking for suggestions from anyone with a similar setup. I have an Asus Essence ST that is hooked up to my amps and a preamp. I need a set a cans just for music. I really don't care about looks or even comfort. Sound leakage isn't a problem either. I just want good sound for whatever $200 can get me. Also, I listen to mostly classic rock and indie/pop. I've never own headphones and would like something I wouldn't have to upgrade for awhile. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by RayleighSilvers View Post

Can somebody explain this graph to me please.

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1973&graphID[]=3201&graphID[]=1723&graphID[]=3101

 

The ultrasones are supposed to be bass monsters with a "v" shaped curve but this graph shows the HFI 580 having a very similar frequency response to the shure 940 and the pro 550/780 being mid centric confused.gif


I have not heard the Ultrasones, but I would certainly not put them in the bass monster category.  They have a nice peak at about 55hz which does in fact make it sound a bit more bassy than the comparable cans on the graph.  I have found that the headroom graphs are good indicators of nuances between phones more than absolutes about freq response.  I tend to gravitate to cans that have a bitof a peak in the bass myself but am very picky about what they do in the upper mids.  

 

The 580s have a big peak at about 3k, then a suckout and another peak at 10k.  This may make it sound a bit hyped in the upper mids at least compared to the 940.  The best thing to do would be to hear some of these cans to learn about their traits and how the graphs correspond to the sound you hear.  Then you can get a better idea of how a can you may not have heard might sound to you.

 

Hope that helps.  FYI - I don't see the 580s listed on headroom's site.

 

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Does anyone know of an authorized dealer of the ATH-M50s that I can have Guitar Center price match for less than 160?
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When we talk about Noise Isolation, are we talking about me hearing others or other people will hear me with headphones like Grados? 

I guess this will probably not be my portable headset then. I am not a fan of IEMs. I own a klipsch and they hurt my ears after awhile and also I feel like the sound is around me with my m-80s while the IEMs are a little direct. It makes it hard to turn up the volume because I feel like certain properties are drowned out unevenly with my IEMs compared to my m80's. 


Overall, I would love another actual headphone set so if I disregard portability and isolation, what would be a great choice that will outperform my current headphones? I am really leaning towards the Grado RS1i just because people seem to say that it has a unique sound signature to it and if I am gonna get another good headset for just home use, I would love to have something that contrasts my m-80s. The other selections I seem to be leaning towards is the Q701 and the HD650. I want something that will truely give me a different and preferably better experience in most genres except Hip Hop, rap and country, which I don't listen to at all.

 

 


 

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Hmm. So would any of these headphones truly outperform the m-80s? I kind of feel like they are all much pricier so would do better in most areas but just have uneven distributions of where they are the strongest. Do you have a recommendation between those headphones? 

 

If I have one complaint about my headphones, it is some music is pretty harsh. I love guitar shreds and some club music but they almost sound like they are about the break apart when I have the music on a bit louder. It creates some irritatbility. I want something that would make some of this music softer and let me enjoy the details at high volumes without certain notes suddenly making my ears cringe. 

 

Also, when you say I need a significant amp to drive those headphones, what amp would I need? Would an E11 not be enough? 

Sorry I am very new to discussing audio and I really don't know all the language that is used to describe various effects. I'm mostly a gamer so I feel like I want to say that I want anti-aliasing for my music or something to that effect. Something to smooth out the rough edges that may or may not be inherent in the actual music I am playing.

 

 


Noise isolation generally refers to sound leaking in, but in general, they go hand in hand, as the sound can go both ways. As far as portability goes, you don't want either. Regarding that smoothing over effect you mentioned, I think you might like the HD650, as the Sennheiser "veil" people sometimes talk about is what tempers the highs and smooths out the music. You'll need a good amp to drive them to their full potential, though. An E11 would not be enough, as you'll probably want to be looking into full-sized or desktop amps to drive them.

 



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Does anyone know of an authorized dealer of the ATH-M50s that I can have Guitar Center price match for less than 160?


Check the deals thread. Amazon maybe?

 

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Hey there, looking for suggestions from anyone with a similar setup. I have an Asus Essence ST that is hooked up to my amps and a preamp. I need a set a cans just for music. I really don't care about looks or even comfort. Sound leakage isn't a problem either. I just want good sound for whatever $200 can get me. Also, I listen to mostly classic rock and indie/pop. I've never own headphones and would like something I wouldn't have to upgrade for awhile. Thanks.


Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 250-Ohm (closed).

 

 

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Does anyone know of an authorized dealer of the ATH-M50s that I can have Guitar Center price match for less than 160?


Go for some used ones on eBay.

 

 

post #13180 of 29490

dayum, i'm buying my headphones for few months now :D still can't decide.

 

CAL! vs denon ah-d510 vs probably nothing more, please suggest something if you want to

 

i don't know about denon ah-d510, but they're more expensive than CAL!, maybe they're better (actually, my budget expanded to price of denon ah-d510 :D) i'm listening to dubstep, chillstep, smth like that and playing games. probably CAL! was perfect for me and i'm going to buy them, but what about denon ah-d510? and is there any more alternatives?

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Would Guitar Center match this price? http://www.mini9ssd.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&language=en&products_id=357


Has anyone purchased from here because this is a great deal

post #13182 of 29490

HM5, audio technica m50s or Shure SRH840 or other

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Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

 

Firstly I'm a bit hesitant on the HD598 (or any of the HD5xx series) for the reason below, taken from an Amazon customer review:

 

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Why three stars (I would prefer 2.5 stars)? I just learned from www.head-fi.org and other headphone review sites (only after I bought these cans, of course) that there is apparently a long documented history of these headphone's (and the entire 5xx series') plastic cracking where the headband meets the headphone speaker. Just search for this model or another model like the HD595 with the word "crack" and you will find owners complaining along with photos showing an apparent history of cracks in the plastic frame. Apparently, there is an inherent problem resulting from the tension placed on the plastic and its material composition, which might compromise its durability.

 

Aside from that, the ones I'm still toiling over are

 

ATH - A900 vs the ATH - A700

Beyerdynamic 770 vs 880 vs 990

AKG K550 vs AKG Q 701

 

...pretty sure it's going to be one of these cans.

 

Like I said:

 

Priority: Gaming (immersive/competitive/non-competitive) , Bass/Soundstage balance, Durability

Secondary: Music (classical, rock, metal), Movies (all)

 

Looking into closed cans because as a bass player, I do enjoy the feel of bass, but not so much that it destroys other sound..

 

I really appreciate the help you guys (and gals?) have given me, as this is my first delve into audiophilia I really don't know what I'm looking for specifically.. wondering if I'm just getting to the point where I just have to try them to know what I'll want.. still would like some opinions on the headphones I listed tho..

 

Thanks again..

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Originally Posted by Mods12 View Post

HM5, audio technica m50s or Shure SRH840 or other


Depends on portability requirements and sound signature preferences.

 



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Originally Posted by TheCheshire View Post

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

 

Firstly I'm a bit hesitant on the HD598 (or any of the HD5xx series) for the reason below, taken from an Amazon customer review:

 

 

Aside from that, the ones I'm still toiling over are

 

ATH - A900 vs the ATH - A700

Beyerdynamic 770 vs 880 vs 990

AKG K550 vs AKG Q 701

 

...pretty sure it's going to be one of these cans.

 

Like I said:

 

Priority: Gaming (immersive/competitive/non-competitive) , Bass/Soundstage balance, Durability

Secondary: Music (classical, rock, metal), Movies (all)

 

Looking into closed cans because as a bass player, I do enjoy the feel of bass, but not so much that it destroys other sound..

 

I really appreciate the help you guys (and gals?) have given me, as this is my first delve into audiophilia I really don't know what I'm looking for specifically.. wondering if I'm just getting to the point where I just have to try them to know what I'll want.. still would like some opinions on the headphones I listed tho..

 

Thanks again..


Well, I've heard that the HD5XX crack is only cosmetic, and you'll have to check, but I read somewhere that it's been fixed in the newer models. I think the A700/900 will still probably be too bass-light as well.

 

post #13185 of 29490

I would pick the Beyer dt770's for you. It accomplished everything that you're looking for but may not be the best for gaming. For competitive FPS, you will want an open can. So if that is your priority try the 880's or 990's. I have a pair of dt770 FS fyi...
 

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Originally Posted by TheCheshire View Post

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

 

Firstly I'm a bit hesitant on the HD598 (or any of the HD5xx series) for the reason below, taken from an Amazon customer review:

 

 

Aside from that, the ones I'm still toiling over are

 

ATH - A900 vs the ATH - A700

Beyerdynamic 770 vs 880 vs 990

AKG K550 vs AKG Q 701

 

...pretty sure it's going to be one of these cans.

 

Like I said:

 

Priority: Gaming (immersive/competitive/non-competitive) , Bass/Soundstage balance, Durability

Secondary: Music (classical, rock, metal), Movies (all)

 

Looking into closed cans because as a bass player, I do enjoy the feel of bass, but not so much that it destroys other sound..

 

I really appreciate the help you guys (and gals?) have given me, as this is my first delve into audiophilia I really don't know what I'm looking for specifically.. wondering if I'm just getting to the point where I just have to try them to know what I'll want.. still would like some opinions on the headphones I listed tho..

 

Thanks again..



 

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