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Great question!



Not sure if the E17 will have enough power to drive the HE-400s (they're planar-magnetic, which usually means that they require a pretty powerful amp).  The SR-325s have very bright, sparkly treble, and can be too harsh for some people (like me).  If you can audition them first, do it - they're a love 'em or hate 'em headphone.  The K701/702 are very revealing, which may be a problem if you listen to lower quality rips or poorly-mastered recordings, but if you don't then they might be a good option.  $400 is pretty steep for them though - they're under $250 in the States.

 

The HE-400s are also pretty different from the other two, which are more treble-focused.  The HE-400s are apparently quite bassy, so if you do decide to get those, just be aware of that.

post #11402 of 29490

Hello,

 

I'm glad I saw this thread before starting a new one! I'm in the market for headphones and an amp. I've done a ton of research, but keep going back and forth and I'm having a great deal of trouble deciding on something. Source is .flac files on the PC through a Xonar Essence ST sound card.

 

Usage: Home use only. Primarily non-competitive gaming, but also some lower-volume music. The music I like is primarily pop/electronic, and is 99.9% female vocals. [Example 1] [Example 2] [Example 3]

 

Budget: Willing to spend up to $1,000 (for both headphone and amp).

 

I prefer a slight V-curve in my music. I'm strongly considering the 600ohm BeyerDynamic DT990 Premium, but from what I hear the highs are a bit too harsh, so I was hoping to get an amp that would calm those just a bit. Completely open to suggestions if people feel there's something better though!

 

Thanks!


Edited by Iorek - 1/26/12 at 12:32pm
post #11403 of 29490
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Originally Posted by NateZ28 View Post
What would be an upgrade from the Panasonic HTF600s? I'm looking for more bass and sound detail?

The RP-HTF600-S is fairly bassy, with decent sound quality.

What are you currently plugging the RP-HTF600-S.

 

Of the top of my head.

Denon AH-D1100.

 

post #11404 of 29490

I listen to mainly flac. I've seen the 702s for £210 (about $330?)  are they worth that kind of money? I'm not fan of overly bright presentation but I've heard that 325s really suit rock/indie music(??)

 

What do you feel about the Denon AH2000/AHD5000? Too laid back?

 

 

Thanks for your answers.

 

post #11405 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Iorek View Post

I prefer a slight V-curve in my music. I'm strongly considering the 600ohm BeyerDynamic DT990 Premium, but from what I hear the highs are a bit too harsh, so I was hoping to get an amp that would calm those just a bit. Completely open to suggestions if people feel there's something better though!


An OTL tube amp might take a slight edge of the 990's treble but unless you've already heard it and know that you're right on the edge about it it won't help too much.  On the plus side your Essence ST should give even the 600 ohm version plenty of power.

 

Did you mind closed or open?  I can't another nice open headphone with a V shaped frequency response right now.  A Denon D5000 or D7000 (depending on what the prices are doing right now) might work.  They've got a little extra bass and treble and though the mids aren't front and center they do female vocals well.  The Audio Technica W1000x could work as well and is probably my top recommendation.  They have a V curve in between the Denon's and the DT990's but with the sibilance region sucked out so they don't get harsh and I think they suit Jpop quite well.  They've also got enough mid bass for some decent immersion in your games and good imaging if you're playing an FPS or something.

 

The Denon's and ATs won't match up the best with the ST's amp so you'd need another one but it doesn't have to be expensive and won't put you over your budget.


Edited by maverickronin - 1/26/12 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by RodSmith View Post

I listen to mainly flac. I've seen the 702s for £210 (about $330?)  are they worth that kind of money? I'm not fan of overly bright presentation but I've heard that 325s really suit rock/indie music(??)

 

What do you feel about the Denon AH2000/AHD5000? Too laid back?

 

 

Thanks for your answers.

 

 

That's still quite a bit more than you'd pay for them in the US, but then we usually seem to have the lowest prices for things like headphones.  At this level, it mostly comes down to whether you're willing to pay for them at that price.  They're excellent headphones, and there aren't many steps up that you can take with a similar sound signature.  Most people say that the next step up is the Beyerdynamic Tesla T1 ($1300-ish), so if you're looking for a more clean, analytical signature, the K702 would be the way to go.

 

The 325s are said to suit rock and indie music well - they do great guitar reproduction - but for me, the brightness was impossible to get past.  It grated on my ears after just a minute or two of listening - but I'm really sensitive to harshness, so YMMV.  Bottom line: if you don't like overly bright presentation, I would stay away from Grados, though try them if you can find a local shop that has demos available.

 

I really like the D2000s.  Their strength lies more in their versatility though - they don't excel in anything, but they do everything well.  They have a slightly harsh treble, which does bug me on some songs, and the midrange is ever so slightly recessed.  The bass is usually what people define them by, but it's not so much MOAR BASS!!!!1!! as bass impact and quality.  I was actually concerned about the level of the bass before I bought them, and almost didn't due to the number of people recommending them as a basshead headphone, but I found them for an excellent price and figured I could just return them if they weren't for me.  I ended up pleasantly surprised - they have less bass quantity than my FA-011s, but they extend deeper and have significantly more impact, which makes for a much better listening experience.  The D5000s are supposed to be similar, but more refined and slightly better construction.  Some people also say that they have more sub-bass, but others disagree, so YMMV.
 

 

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Thanks! I hadn't even looked at Audio Technica headphones, but after reading some reviews, the W1000X definitely seems like it would fit my needs very well. The one thing that concerns me is that they're somewhat of a bad fit for smaller heads, which I probably have. What kind of an amp would you recommend to pair with these? Something like a FiiO E9? Also, from what I understand they're ultra sensitive and will pick up background noise from sound cards, etc. Is an external DAC needed in this case?

 

Thanks again.

 

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An OTL tube amp might take a slight edge of the 990's treble but unless you've already heard it and know that you're right on the edge about it it won't help too much.  On the plus side your Essence ST should give even the 600 ohm version plenty of power.

 

Did you mind closed or open?  I can't another nice open headphone with a V shaped frequency response right now.  A Denon D5000 or D7000 (depending on what the prices are doing right now) might work.  They've got a little extra bass and treble and though the mids aren't front and center they do female vocals well.  The Audio Technica W1000x could work as well and is probably my top recommendation.  They have a V curve in between the Denon's and the DT990's but with the sibilance region sucked out so they don't get harsh and I think they suit Jpop quite well.  They've also got enough mid bass for some decent immersion in your games and good imaging if you're playing an FPS or something.

 

The Denon's and ATs won't match up the best with the ST's amp so you'd need another one but it doesn't have to be expensive and won't put you over your budget.



 


Edited by Iorek - 1/26/12 at 2:22pm
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Budget?



Preferably under $100.

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Will an iPod touch 4g, a line out cable, and an o2 amp be all I need to get the most out of my beyerdynampic dt 150's?
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I am looking to get going on a whole headphone setup. I need an amp, dac and a pair of headphones all for $500-$600.

 

My sources are a macbook pro and an itouch.

 

It does not need to be portable, and the music I listen to is mainly rock. That varies from classic rock to hard rock to alternative rock. I also will listen to some pop, acoustic and hiop-hop/rap.

 

Any suggestions?

post #11411 of 29490

Hey guys,

 

I'm currently looking for a new pair of over ear headphones for my Cowon J3 mp3 player. I own a pair of Sennheisers HD 555, but I not a big fan of them. In my opinion, they get uncomfortable over time and they are also fairly heavy. I also don't like the fact that the music leaks through and distracts all the people around me.

 

(My music terminology is very poor, forgive me). I listen to all genres of music, I prefer to have a great amount of clarity and a very defined bass. I'm also considering getting a pair that won't have any noise leakage to the surrounding environment.

 

Do you guys have any suggestions? Any headphones that are comparable with the HD 555's? or should I keep using them or get used to them?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 

post #11412 of 29490
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Originally Posted by NDyse10 View Post

I am looking to get going on a whole headphone setup. I need an amp, dac and a pair of headphones all for $500-$600.

 

My sources are a macbook pro and an itouch.

 

It does not need to be portable, and the music I listen to is mainly rock. That varies from classic rock to hard rock to alternative rock. I also will listen to some pop, acoustic and hiop-hop/rap.

 

Any suggestions?


If you don't mind bright, sparkly (and often harsh) treble (i.e. cymbals and such), then Grados might be up your alley.  They don't meed much in the way of amping, so something like a HiFiMan EF-2a or Fiio E10 or E17 might work.  You could also get a pair of Denon D2000s or D5000s (if you buy used/open box) and one of the above DAC/amp combos.  The Denons are more of an all-around headphone, while the Grados will be best for your rock collection.  You'll probably want to demo the Grados first if at all possible though, since they aren't for everyone.

 

With your budget, you're probably best off getting a mid-range DAC/amp combination and some headphones in the $300-$400 range.

 

The Matrix M-Stage might fit your budget for an DAC/amp as well, but it would be on the upper end and might pull some money from your headphone budget.

 

post #11413 of 29490
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Originally Posted by NateZ28 View Post



Preferably under $100.



The Denon D1100 is a little over your budget, but would be a significant improvement.  Same with the Ultrason HFI-580.  Staying under $100, about your only options are the XB-700 or possibly the Superlux 668B.

post #11414 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Iorek View Post

Thanks! I hadn't even looked at Audio Technica headphones, but after reading some reviews, the W1000X definitely seems like it would fit my needs very well. The one thing that concerns me is that they're somewhat of a bad fit for smaller heads, which I probably have. What kind of an amp would you recommend to pair with these? Something like a FiiO E9? Also, from what I understand they're ultra sensitive and will pick up background noise from sound cards, etc. Is an external DAC needed in this case?

 

Thanks again.


The headband is actually pretty bendable so you can adjust it to your head.  You can see how far in this video review.

 

The E9 has the same amp chip as your ST and its not ideal for the W1000x.  Both amps have an output impdeance of 10 ohm whichs is large in comparison to the W1000x's impedance of about 40 ohms so it can make the bass boomy sounding and change its frequency response a bit.  The 10 ohms isn't a problem for something like the 600 ohm Beyers since the difference is much larger.  An good amp to take a look at is the Objective2.  It has a super low noise floor and a low output impedance for sensitive and/or low impedance models as well as plenty of power to handle potential upgrades to in the future.

 

You probably don't need an external DAC.  The ST is a well implemented design with plenty of shielding so complaints about too much noise are pretty rare.  Different PCs have different layouts so its possible you'd get something out of the ordinary but its probably better to wait and see.

post #11415 of 29490
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Originally Posted by LimeANite View Post


If you don't mind bright, sparkly (and often harsh) treble (i.e. cymbals and such), then Grados might be up your alley.  They don't meed much in the way of amping, so something like a HiFiMan EF-2a or Fiio E10 or E17 might work.  You could also get a pair of Denon D2000s or D5000s (if you buy used/open box) and one of the above DAC/amp combos.  The Denons are more of an all-around headphone, while the Grados will be best for your rock collection.  You'll probably want to demo the Grados first if at all possible though, since they aren't for everyone.

 

With your budget, you're probably best off getting a mid-range DAC/amp combination and some headphones in the $300-$400 range.

 

The Matrix M-Stage might fit your budget for an DAC/amp as well, but it would be on the upper end and might pull some money from your headphone budget.

 

 

Yeah there is a Grado dealer in a neighboring city about 45 mins away and I need to visit there, but I have a feeling I am not going to like the brightness of the Grado's. I also have looked at the D2000 or D5000's and have heard people find them for cheaper prices and I, for the life of me, cannot find where people are finding them.

 

I do like the idea of a headphone that is a bit more of an all-rounder but also does very good at rock.

 

One amp I was looking at was the Schiit Asgard, but then I would also need a DAC. Do you have any other suggestions for a mid-level amp? Also, how much would a separate DAC cost?
 

 

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