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The consensus is generally that until you get to the top-tier headphones, or unless your existing sound card is really bad, you're better off upgrading your headphones. However, I haven't heard the 555s or anything you'd be upgrading to, so I can't tell you a whole lot more. However, I'm not sure how much better you can do than that with $150 though, seeing as that's about how much the 555s went for... Maybe the 558s?
 

 

 

So you think buying a high end sound card like the x-fi titanium hd wouldn't make the big difference I'm looking for with my HD 555's?  I don't currently have a sound card, I run my sound straight off my motherboard on my pc.  Would I be better off getting a high end sound card, or just better headphones on a higher budget? 


Edited by jesb - 1/10/12 at 7:38pm
post #10952 of 29490
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Hey, I am looking for a decent set of headphones in the price range of 100-200$. I listen to mostly Hip Hop and Rap(plenty of bass) and some rock. I will be using the headphones with my laptop and iPhone. I am not really a audiophile in the general sense but i do appreciate good sound. What I am looking for in the headphones is good bass, but not just bass like on the Sony XB500s(I dont know a lot about headphones but i listened to a couple of headphones at best buy yesterday when a friend suggested that i should ask you guys, I tried the XB500s and Bose AE2s, i hated the XB500s and the AE2s sounded okay but the same friend told me that Bose stuff is not that great and i should ask you guys which ones should i be buying). Alright so what do you guys think i should buy. I currently own the Image S4s which were suggested to me the same friend that suggested this website.(I asked him about headphones too but he says he does not know a lot about the headphones in my budget, he is a big audiophile and usually spends thousands of dollars on audio equipment). I really like the S4s but i would like to step up in terms of quality with bigger full sized headphones


Look into the Audio-Technica M50s, Shure SRH840s, V-Moda M80s, Sennheiser Hd25-1, Brainwavz HM5, Beyerdynamic DT1350, Sony ZX700, etc. ljokerl's review thread is a good place to start.

 

EDIT: Sorry, kinda missed the part about bass emphasis. In that case, the Denons mentioned above and the M50s might be your best bets.


Edited by 50an6xy06r6n - 1/10/12 at 7:39pm
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Totally hit and miss on motherboard sound.  Some is decent, some of it is abysmal crap.  I would upgrade the soundcard, but the Asus Xonar would be my suggestion considering how upgradeable it is.
 

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So you think buying a high end sound card like the x-fi titanium hd wouldn't make the big difference I'm looking for with my HD 555's?  I don't currently have a sound card, I run my sound straight off my motherboard on my pc.  Would I be better off getting a high end sound card, or just better headphones on a higher budget? 



 

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Originally Posted by jesb View Post

 

So you think buying a high end sound card like the x-fi titanium hd wouldn't make the big difference I'm looking for with my HD 555's?  I don't currently have a sound card, I run my sound straight off my motherboard on my pc.  Would I be better off getting a high end sound card, or just better headphones on a higher budget? 



To be honest, i don't know a whole lot about any of the components you have, and I don't know what the onboard sound on your pc is like, but my suggestion would be to save for the HD598s or something.

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The Senns and Beyers are also out of his price range.
 

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Look into the Audio-Technica M50s, Shure SRH840s, V-Moda M80s, Sennheiser Hd25-1, Brainwavz HM5, Beyerdynamic DT1350, Sony ZX700, etc. ljokerl's review thread is a good place to start.

 

EDIT: Sorry, kinda missed the part about bass emphasis. In that case, the Denons mentioned above and the M50s might be your best bets.



 

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This is a serious question that I hope everyone that is a "pro" or should I informatively say, well equipped, would put a light into my darkened question. Speaking from Full-size headphones that are closed/semi-open/open, which of the headphones you own are Sparkly, bright, and just right? For the mids, I would like to know which sound more closer to the original voice, and warm for people. For the lows, which sound very good for bass, the nicest production of bass? Nothing boomy or muddy, and also IF this question is out of the thread, then please let me know where i can be redirected, I'm not trying to troll here, but I'm quite serious now on my audio gear. I have a zx700 and an A900x, looking towards moving the z1000 due to great reviews, HD 25 ii for portability and good quality, and DT880s for the nice quality they reveal. However, as I know the A900x are great headphones, I DO want different signatures and see if the z1000s can beat it, obviously it cost 500 dollars, so it SHOULD beat it, but I want to know. Any other headphones that you CAN recommended will be truly appreciated.

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The Senns and Beyers are also out of his price range.
 



 


Sorry, forgot about the price range, which eliminates the Beyers. However, Amazon has the Senns for $185 $199 atm.

EDIT: Hey look, price jump! The point still stands. tongue.gif

 


Edited by 50an6xy06r6n - 1/10/12 at 7:50pm
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Totally hit and miss on motherboard sound.  Some is decent, some of it is abysmal crap.  I would upgrade the soundcard, but the Asus Xonar would be my suggestion considering how upgradeable it is.
 



So this would actually be better than the titanium hd?  What is the exact model I should be looking at?  I wonder if I can return a sound card if I don't feel like the difference is worth it for the headphones I have.  So go with new sound card or wait and buy better headphones for $200 or more?


Edited by jesb - 1/10/12 at 7:54pm
post #10959 of 29490
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Originally Posted by VandyMan View Post

I'm on the market for great closed back headphones under 1.5K (less is better, of course!). Comfort is as important as sound quality since I will be wearing them for most of the work day. They also need to be durable as I'll be caring them to/from work in my messenger bag. 

 

I'm thinking about Audio-Technica, because my ATH-AD700s sound great for the money and are the most comfortable headphones I own. However, I don't know anything about their more expensive models. I see some interesting closed back models from Ultrasone, but I'm not familiar with the brand at all.

 

(I looked for an existing topic, but did not find one, so I'm asking for recommendations here.)

 
 
 


Off the top of my head, high-end closed headphones are Denon D7000, Audio-Technica W1000/5000, Beyerdynamic T1, and various Ultrasones (the Edition models).  None of these are terribly (trans)portable.  The Denons and ATs are wood, and the others are large and/or have things like bright metal that are easily scratched.  Most, if not all, come with a case though, so you could possibly carry them around in that.  Or just lock them in your office at work (if you have one).  The other challenge will be powering them.  Most of these have fairly high power demands and won't sound terribly great straight out of your computer.  You also have consider the type of music you want to listen to.  From what I know, the D7000s are great all-around headphones, the W1000/5000 are good with classical, the T1 is very bright (pronounced highs), and the Ultrasones are loved and hated in equal measure (I think I remember some people saying that they weren't worth the price).

 

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Considering it is motherboard audio, it is a real toss up.  I would suggest the Xonar DS.  It is PCI so compatible with just about any computer, it also has swappable op amps, so you can make it sound significantly better at a very little total increase in price.
 

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So this would actually be better than the titanium hd?  What is the exact model I should be looking at?  I wonder if I can return a sound card if I don't feel like the difference is worth it for the headphones I have.  So go with new sound card or wait and buy better headphones for $200 or more?



 

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The D2000s might actually be too bass-heavy for genres like classical. The HD650s are supposed to be darker than the HD598s, but not really bass-heavy



Too bass-heavy is a bit relative. Would they produce so much low end that the low-mid section gets drowned out? Or would they just have more low end than most people are used to? I've found that open cans are great in the mid-high and high ranges, but the low end gets lost in the openness of the soundstage. Essentially, because the drivers are so small (compared to Home Audio speakers) the fact that the driver has nothing to bounce sound off in open cans, the low end is hurt more than the mids and highs are colored buy the reflection. However, certain closed cans can solve the problem of coloration by improving on the structure of the enclosure; whereas there is quite a price jump to open cans that aren't lacking in low end extension. Really, the only good open phones I've heard are the HD800s and those are $1500, and therefore well out of my price range.

 

But, I digress. I'll be ordering the D2ks tomorrow from J&R for $250 shipped. I don't think I could find a better deal for full size cans, period. Hope I'm right! bigsmile_face.gif

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Denon D1100.  Great bass and clarity at all frequencies.
 



 



 



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Look into the Audio-Technica M50s, Shure SRH840s, V-Moda M80s, Sennheiser Hd25-1, Brainwavz HM5, Beyerdynamic DT1350, Sony ZX700, etc. ljokerl's review thread is a good place to start.

 

EDIT: Sorry, kinda missed the part about bass emphasis. In that case, the Denons mentioned above and the M50s might be your best bets.


 

Thanks for the quick replies. After posting my initial question i have bee doing plenty of research on Head Fi and have narrowed down to ATH Pro700mk2, Denon D1100, DT770 and the HFi 580. Now out of these 4 how would you rate them in terms of bass response and overall audio quality.

 

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Is it ok to repost? I don't want to spam, but I need a quick response on this:

 

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Hello there!

 

I need some help with choosing new headphones... Recently my AKG k430 broke down, and I decided to replace it with an AKG k450. To my surprise, the sound did not meet my expectations - I am not an audio expert, but my impression was that the basses were considerably louder and drowned out the mid-range and high tones. It also seemed like the instrument separation wasn't as good as in the k430. I tried using EQ to lower the basses, but I still didn't like the sound.

 

Down to the point, I am looking to buy new headphones, preferably closed or semi-open in the price range of $80-110. My choice of  music is mostly instrumental genres (classical, soundtrack) and ambient. I am mostly looking for defined mid-ranges with detail and good instrument separation. I do like bass, but I do not like it to be excessive or over-amplified. All in all, I think I am just searching for something which is pretty neutral and balanced. One thing I am also looking for is a replaceable cable, if that is possible.

 

Also, I have another question. I am quite inexperienced with full-size headphones and have avoided purchasing them in the past due to their weight and size. Most people, though, describe them as being very comfortable, so I was wondering if the weight can cause any problems. Can they weight down on the ears and cause discomfort?

 

I would really appreciate a quick response, since I have to have a decision ready by tomorrow! I realize that my specifications might not fall in my price range very well, so please don't hold back on suggesting something more expensive - any advice would be helpful. 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

It seems to have been buried under the posts and I thought you guys might have missed it (my apologies if that's not true!). Again, thanks in advance for any advice. 

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It seems to have been buried under the posts and I thought you guys might have missed it (my apologies if that's not true!). Again, thanks in advance for any advice. 


One thing that might fit is the Koss Pro DJ100.  It has great mids, and though the bass is a tad emphasized, it's not bloated and (in my opinion) doesn't bleed into the rest of the spectrum.  Some have said that they don't sound very good without an amp, but I think they work fine out of onboard sound.  An amp and/or DAC does improve them, but not as much as some make it out to do.  They do lack for soundstage a bit, but then all of my other headphones are fully open, so it's hard to make a good comparison.

 

As far as size and weight go, they're not particularly big or heavy, though the cups are aluminum instead of plastic, which does increase the weight a bit.  Not to the point of being uncomfortable though.  the cups are a bit shallow, but this can be improved by stuffing some padding (or in my case, a strand of network cable) under the earpads to lift them a bit.  With them like this, I regularly listen to them for 8 hours straight at work.

 

They retail for around $80.

 

You could also try the Creative Aurvana Lives, which are a popular recommendation in this price bracket.  There's even a comparison thread between them and the DJ100s somewhere on the forum.  I haven't heard them though, so I can't really comment on comfort or sound.

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Originally Posted by zloy loup View Post

Hello there!

 

I need some help with choosing new headphones... Recently my AKG k430 broke down, and I decided to replace it with an AKG k450. To my surprise, the sound did not meet my expectations - I am not an audio expert, but my impression was that the basses were considerably louder and drowned out the mid-range and high tones. It also seemed like the instrument separation wasn't as good as in the k430. I tried using EQ to lower the basses, but I still didn't like the sound.

 

Down to the point, I am looking to buy new headphones, preferably closed or semi-open in the price range of $80-110. My choice of  music is mostly instrumental genres (classical, soundtrack) and ambient. I am mostly looking for defined mid-ranges with detail and good instrument separation. I do like bass, but I do not like it to be excessive or over-amplified. All in all, I think I am just searching for something which is pretty neutral and balanced. One thing I am also looking for is a replaceable cable, if that is possible.

 

Also, I have another question. I am quite inexperienced with full-size headphones and have avoided purchasing them in the past due to their weight and size. Most people, though, describe them as being very comfortable, so I was wondering if the weight can cause any problems. Can they weight down on the ears and cause discomfort?

 

I would really appreciate a quick response, since I have to have a decision ready by tomorrow! I realize that my specifications might not fall in my price range very well, so please don't hold back on suggesting something more expensive - any advice would be helpful. 

 

Thanks in advance!


Do you need them to be portable? On the portable end, I haven't really heard of any headphones known specifically for soundstage... A couple options to look into might be the Creative Aurvana Lives (CAL!), which are closed or the Superlux 668B, which is semi-open. Both go for around $60 and have good reputations.

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