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Originally Posted by iSenzz View Post

I'm up to a new pair of on-ear hp's. It'll be my first pair in the higher price cat.

 

The genres of music I'm listening to:

-Hiphop / R&B /Dance / some bass / Alternative / some Rock

-Soundtracks of movies !

I won't use it for games, or whatever. Just music / movies with my iPod Touch.

 

So, I need all-round good music quality with some bass in it.

 

- it has to be portable, on-ear, no huge shells

- comfortable, I'm not wearing glasses so, that won't give any problems most of the time. Will wear them for about 3-4 hours a day.

- has to be sturdy, cuz I will wear them even it's raining.

- quality is important

- its a plus when the cable is thicker as normal

- its a plus when it has a 45/90° connector

- design is a plus, I like to have some nice looking hp's too

- not willing to use an amp, so the quality of the sound needs to be good.

 

BUDGET approx. €200.

 

I've already tried the Senn. HD25-1 II but I miss some bass in it, overal sound is clear, but way to quiet.

TMA-1 / V-Moda M80 / Ultrasone HFI-580 / ATH-ES55 / but I can't test these so.. if the HD isn't my thing, what will?


If you thought the bass was lacking on the HD25-1-ii, then the only one of those listed that will have more is the HFi580 (which is over-ear). You might also consider an AKG K181. 

 

 


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Originally Posted by SoundWhore View Post

I'm buying semi  headphones (closed/semi open, doesnt matter) for hobby studio use and music listening for a low budget, say 50€. Type of music I listen is electronic dance music so solid low end production is essential. Im not really searching for  cans that  have very flat response, because I found such kind of headphones to be very "sterile", boring to listen and to work with. It's also very important that low end section isn't artifical (like you pushed low frequency EQ sliders up a lot) and that it sounds great at small levels.

 

Till now I've used Superlux 668F and for my taste they have weak low end. I tried to fix that with EQ which only brings that artifical low end rather giving some decent sounding. They also doesn't sound so big, 'in your face' I'd expect.

 

Which cans should I try?


closed: Senn HD280

open: AKG K140/141

 

 



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Originally Posted by kazooki117 View Post

I am a beginner when it comes to headphones.

 

I have a budget of about $300, but would really like to keep it closer to $200.

 

I would primarily use the headphones for laptop gaming, but also want to be able to use them for listening to music (on computer and portable) and handheld games. In terms of gaming, I would like them to work well for positional awareness in FPS games, while still being great for other games.

 

I am also considering amps. I want a DAC/AMP combo that allows surround sound. It would primarily be used with my laptop.

 

Amps

Amazon $130 - Astro gaming mixamp

Amazon $90 - Creative Soundblaster X-fi HD USB Audio System with THX SB1240

Amazon $60 - Creative Soundblaster X-fi surround 5.1 Pro USB Audio System with THX SB 1095

 

 

I have no idea what the difference between the Soundblasters are.

 

Headphones

Amazon $199 - Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro Closed

Amazon $170 - A-900 Closed

Amazon $125 - AKG K271MKII Closed

Amazon $120 - A700 Closed

Amazon $110 - AD700 Open

Amazon $60 - Creative Aurvana Live Closed

 

 

Mad Lust Envy's guide to Headphone Gaming has been informative and has influenced some of the items on the list. One of the things mentioned is the DT770 pro has too much bass for competitive FPS - would it be possible to just lower this in a mixer? Also, I'm not really super competitive when it comes to FPS's; would it matter as much for me?

 

Also, how portable are the headphones? I know the Creative Aurana Live is considered a portable, but are any of the others? What issues make them not suitable to be portable?

 

From what I hear I like the AD700 the most, except that it is open. Does this impact the leakage significantly?

 

If the Aurvana's are good enough I would go with that, but could they really utilize the amps?

 

Is there a major difference between the A700 and AD700?

 

Is there any other info that would help you guys help me?

 

Thanks for any input!

 

 


If you're not competitive, then it doesn't really matter what the bass is like. 

 

Open headphones leak considerably and do not isolate from outside noise. 

 

Of all those listed, the only ones I would consider portable would be the CAL. The rest are all full sized and do not fold or collapse in any way. You pretty much will need a large backpack or duffle bag to cart them around. Even then, I'd only feel comfortable carrying the Beyer (which does have it's own case, but it's huge). The AKGs and Audio Technicas aren't exactly the most robust headphones; they're not fragile per se, but not something I'd want to toss around in a bag either. 

 


 

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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Few cans I'm looking at for portable use. Possibly being paired with a Fostex HP-P1 or ALO Rx Mk 3.

 

DT770 600 Premium

V-Moda M80

Shure 940

 

I realize these all have pretty different signatures, but my biggest question is which of them responds best to amplification? 

 

Any other suggestions in ~$300 range that respond really well to amplification are welcome. 

 

I missed this thread a bit.


 

I haven't heard the Shure 940, but I've heard the rest in the line. In my experience they did not benefit appreciably from amping. The M80 sounds maybe a tiny bit better, but it's got such high sensitivity that amps with gain are sometimes hard to control to get a comfortable volume before going too loud. The Beyers are always hungry and do like the power from beefier amps; it would be the easy pick out of these three (though personally, I think they sound better from high impedance outputs like OTL tube amps). I'm surprised you even asked considering your experience here. 

 

Other cans that like amping (that are closed I'm assuming)... orthos, and actually the Denons since with their low impedance and high sensitivity some sources can get grainy, so a low gain amp with clean power works best for them. 


 

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Originally Posted by gurpswu View Post

Looking to a buy a new pair of in ears to replace my Soundmagic PL30's.

 

I was looking at something in the price range of the Shure SE215's or the Westone UM1's....what would you recommend out of these two or any others?

 

Looking to spend no more than £80.

 

 


The se215 is a very solid IEM. I would have kept mine if it were just a smidge smaller so I could get a proper fit (I have rather small ears). 

 


 

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Originally Posted by billyshears View Post

Hi all.

 

I'm new here and new to the field (but not to buying things I can't afford).  I currently have Sennheiser 280pros, which I was very happy with for quite a while, but am now looking to step things up a bit.  

I've tried the Sennheiser HD650s at my friends and was thinking of going with those, but was a bit concerned about the highs rolling off.  How significant is this?  In theory, I'd like a pretty balanced set, but in reality I'm not too sure how necessary this is given my tastes (not necessarily listening to too much classical).  I generally listen to rock (beatles, talking heads, can, pixies, deerhunter) to some more experimental and electronic type stuff (boards of canada, aphex twin, flying lotus, animal collective), and, rarely, jazz and classical. Also, at 350 USD, I've been a bit hardpressed to find another set of cans (to listen to Can) that are as well regarded as the HD650s.  Any suggestions or recommendations for me, or am I on the right track?   Do the HD650s highs outweigh the lows (or should i say LOs outweigh the HIs)?  

 

Secondly, I'm a bit lost on amps.  I'm not looking to spend an obscene amount and was thinking the Schiit Asgard or Valhalla.  I heard the Asgard was a good fit for the 650s, but what about the Valhalla?  Would there be a significant difference between the two?  Is a tube amp for a HD650 worth it?

(that was tough to write without making a schitt joke)

 

Also, any other amp recommendations for the HD650s would be much appreciated.

 

sincerely,

a newbie


I actually found the Senn HD5xx series to have a bit more treble energy than the 6xx series. Additionally, the 5xx do not need an amp whereas the 6xx like more power to sound their best, so you can save more money that way.

 

Sennheisers do like tube amps... but now you're looking at spending easily in the $5-600 range. If you do go this route and have a little DIY experience, I'd highly recommend the Bottlehead Crack tube amp (actually, I think I saw one on the sale forums just the other day). 

 

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Look at the SRH840 too. Good choice in the price range. Out of thise 2 the M50 is the best choice for any production work but IMO the Aviator looks better and has a more 'fun' sound.
 

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Originally Posted by Figurehead View Post

 

Audio-Technica ATH-M50

 

and

 

 

Skullcandy Roc Nation Aviator

 

Admittetly, Aviator look a lot cooler than the much praised ATH. But I'd like an opinion.

 

I'm mostly using it for entertainment, and a little mixing/Ableton Live use on the side.

Also, since I'm probably getting an 160GB iPod Classic (I plead guilty to lossless indulgement!), do they fit? Could I change the cable or get amps? (even though I don't know what a portable amp is)

 

I'm glad I was pointed to this site.

Here's to a new horizon.



 

 

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Originally Posted by TerminatioN View Post


Are those well built? They look pretty flimsy and some of the reviews seem to confirm.

 

Ugh, I wish these V-Modas didn't leak so much. I love absolutely everything else about them (build quality, case, cables, comfort, etc). Maybe I'll just suck it up and deal with the leaking.

 

Its tolerable at lower levels. Probably will be better for my hearing anyways if I just turn them down to 20-25...

 


The HD280 are reasonably well built. In a DJ environment where they get tossed about all the time they'll tend to crack, but you can say the same for just about all headphones these days (notable exceptions: HD25, M80, TMA-1, etc). 

 



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Originally Posted by PomPWNius View Post

Thinking of getting shure srh940. I listen to hard rock and love for the vocals to be the main  emphasis. I want to spend no more than 200 but I found the 940 for 205 somewhere. Is there anything better for what I want in my pricerange? They need to be closed backed.


At $205 that's in the "too good to be true" realm unless they're used or a b-stock or damaged. 

 



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Originally Posted by hifinoob005 View Post

Hello guys,

 

I want to buy a pair of headphones for music, games, movies for a budget of about 50 Euro. I want them to be have some bass. I want them to be circumaural, closed, with some noise cancelation if possible for home use, the source will be a m audio revo 5.1. Now after browsing through some reviews i decided to get the Panasonic HTF 600, which are a good pair of cans, however they have 2 major flaws, first they are still tight after more then a month of use, and are not comfortable for long use, secondly and more importantly the headphones do not do very well when faced with a rapid tempo bass intensive music, the lows just get muddled. The other 2 alternatives are the AKG K77 and SONY XB500. I would like to know to things before i go out and buy one of these:

First, if someone who ownes a pair of AKG's can tell me if they are bassy, say in comparison with the HTF's or some K55 or HD483 which i previously owned. I am satisfied with how low the bass goes on the HTF, but not on the AKG or sennheisers.

Secondly if the XB500 have any similar issues at the lower ranges.

Thirdly if there is any other pair of headphones that you can recomend would be great.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

Can you find the XB700 within your price range? They have better clarity than the 500. 
 

 



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Originally Posted by Figurehead View Post

Know what I've just discovered? That' I've been an hibernating audiophile.

 

Good morning everybody.

 

I principally listen to Nine Inch Nails, Muse and Radiohead, but I may veer into the Deadmau5/Skrillex house/dub territory.

Though some good ol' Pink Floyd are never out of the question.

 

I'm between

 

Audio-Technica ATH-M50

 

and

 

 

Skullcandy Roc Nation Aviator

 

Admittetly, Aviator look a lot cooler than the much praised ATH. But I'd like an opinion.

 

I'm mostly using it for entertainment, and a little mixing/Ableton Live use on the side.

Also, since I'm probably getting an 160GB iPod Classic (I plead guilty to lossless indulgement!), do they fit? Could I change the cable or get amps? (even though I don't know what a portable amp is)

 

I'm glad I was pointed to this site.

Here's to a new horizon.


Since you're doing a bit of mixing, the M50 is the easy choice here. Far better isolation and much flatter response. 

 

post #10534 of 29490

 

I have an Hifiman EF-2 (for my HD600's), Between the DT880/DT770 and D2000/5000, which one would be a nicer complement/addition for bass? (house music and rap) Love the balance of the HD600's and EF-2, but additional bass would be nice for a banger. I'm keeping the HD600's, and am looking for something that will fill in the weaknesses of the HD600. (Anything else south of $300 from either Beyerdynamic or Denon I should consider?) 

 

I've listened to both HD600's and 650's on a tube amp much nicer than mine (Darkvoice's), and the jump is 'not enough'. I don't mind sacrificing a bit on the soundstage/neutrality for a jump in bass. Which of the Beyerdynamics (or Denons) would fit in the family best?

 

Portability is not a consideration--man-station (home) use only.

Comfort is quite important. If it's down to 2 cans, both the same in all aspects apart from comfort, I'd choose the more comfortable one 9/10 times.

 

I try to seek out higher quality flac's, but house-music is rarely found beyond standard 128/256 mp3's, so something that's more lenient with crappy sources is a benefit.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

btw: I bought my brother ATH M50's, and while the bass is a 'bit more there', for me, even when amped through the EF-2, they were too great a step down from the HD600's. Essentially, an HD600 with more substantial bass would make me happy, but I know that may not be possible due to open vs closed, at a reasonable price anyways.

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Originally Posted by kazooki117 View Post
I am a beginner when it comes to headphones.

I have a budget of about $300, but would really like to keep it closer to $200.

I would primarily use the headphones for laptop gaming, but also want to be able to use them for listening to music (on computer and portable) and handheld games. In terms of gaming, I would like them to work well for positional awareness in FPS games, while still being great for other games.

I am also considering amps. I want a DAC/AMP combo that allows surround sound. It would primarily be used with my laptop.

Amps

Amazon $130 - Astro gaming mixamp

Amazon $90 - Creative Soundblaster X-fi HD USB Audio System with THX SB1240

Amazon $60 - Creative Soundblaster X-fi surround 5.1 Pro USB Audio System with THX SB 1095

I have no idea what the difference between the Soundblasters are.

Headphones

Amazon $199 - Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro Closed

Amazon $170 - A-900 Closed

Amazon $125 - AKG K271MKII Closed

Amazon $120 - A700 Closed

Amazon $110 - AD700 Open

Amazon $60 - Creative Aurvana Live Closed

Mad Lust Envy's guide to Headphone Gaming has been informative and has influenced some of the items on the list. One of the things mentioned is the DT770 pro has too much bass for competitive FPS - would it be possible to just lower this in a mixer? Also, I'm not really super competitive when it comes to FPS's; would it matter as much for me?

Also, how portable are the headphones? I know the Creative Aurana Live is considered a portable, but are any of the others? What issues make them not suitable to be portable?

From what I hear I like the AD700 the most, except that it is open. Does this impact the leakage significantly?

If the Aurvana's are good enough I would go with that, but could they really utilize the amps?

Is there a major difference between the A700 and AD700?

Is there any other info that would help you guys help me?

Thanks for any input!

 

 


The Astro Mix-Amp uses Dolby Digital for surround sound.

Creative stuff uses Creative's own CMSS-3D for surround sound.

Portability can be whatever your willing to carry around.

Open headphones leak sound and the AD700s are very open, not really for use in public.

The CALs (Creative Aurvana Live) are only 32-Ohm, do not have to be amped, but using a headphone amplifier is always a plus.

The A700s (closed) have more bass, lose some of the mid range and soundstage compared to the AD700s.

 

 

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Ultrasone Pro 900 / Pro 2900 (open). 
 

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Originally Posted by BMWWW View Post

 

I have an Hifiman EF-2 (for my HD600's), Between the DT880/DT770 and D2000/5000, which one would be a nicer complement/addition for bass? (house music and rap) Love the balance of the HD600's and EF-2, but additional bass would be nice for a banger. I'm keeping the HD600's, and am looking for something that will fill in the weaknesses of the HD600. (Anything else south of $300 from either Beyerdynamic or Denon I should consider?) 

 

I've listened to both HD600's and 650's on a tube amp much nicer than mine (Darkvoice's), and the jump is 'not enough'. I don't mind sacrificing a bit on the soundstage/neutrality for a jump in bass. Which of the Beyerdynamics (or Denons) would fit in the family best?

 

Portability is not a consideration--man-station (home) use only.

Comfort is quite important. If it's down to 2 cans, both the same in all aspects apart from comfort, I'd choose the more comfortable one 9/10 times.

 

I try to seek out higher quality flac's, but house-music is rarely found beyond standard 128/256 mp3's, so something that's more lenient with crappy sources is a benefit.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

btw: I bought my brother ATH M50's, and while the bass is a 'bit more there', for me, even when amped through the EF-2, they were too great a step down from the HD600's. Essentially, an HD600 with more substantial bass would make me happy, but I know that may not be possible due to open vs closed, at a reasonable price anyways.



 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWWW View Post

 

I have an Hifiman EF-2 (for my HD600's), Between the DT880/DT770 and D2000/5000, which one would be a nicer complement/addition for bass? (house music and rap) Love the balance of the HD600's and EF-2, but additional bass would be nice for a banger. I'm keeping the HD600's, and am looking for something that will fill in the weaknesses of the HD600. (Anything else south of $300 from either Beyerdynamic or Denon I should consider?) 

 

I've listened to both HD600's and 650's on a tube amp much nicer than mine (Darkvoice's), and the jump is 'not enough'. I don't mind sacrificing a bit on the soundstage/neutrality for a jump in bass. Which of the Beyerdynamics (or Denons) would fit in the family best?

 

Portability is not a consideration--man-station (home) use only.

Comfort is quite important. If it's down to 2 cans, both the same in all aspects apart from comfort, I'd choose the more comfortable one 9/10 times.

 

I try to seek out higher quality flac's, but house-music is rarely found beyond standard 128/256 mp3's, so something that's more lenient with crappy sources is a benefit.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

btw: I bought my brother ATH M50's, and while the bass is a 'bit more there', for me, even when amped through the EF-2, they were too great a step down from the HD600's. Essentially, an HD600 with more substantial bass would make me happy, but I know that may not be possible due to open vs closed, at a reasonable price anyways.


I think a Beyer DT770 would fit the bill. 

 

post #10538 of 29490

 

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Originally Posted by tbern View Post

Alright Head-Fi, another first post noob looking for a point in the right direction.  I'm looking to buy my first set of nice headphones (I'm sick of jamming $20 POS IEM's in my ears) in the $200 and under range.  I've done my research (I think, though you are free to point out what I've missed) and read tons of reviews and I don't know how to narrow my list from here.  About me:

 

Genres: A mix of everything with emphasis on spoken word (I listen to a lot of podcasts), indie/alternative, folk and acoustic, and ambient or mellow electronica, though recently I've found myself listening to a lot of dubstep.  That was is no particular order; I'd say it's a pretty even mix of those genres.  I'm definitely not a bass head, but I'd say I tend to like a bit more oomph on that end of the spectrum.

 

Listening Set-up (or lack thereof):  Mostly straight from my laptop, a Sony Vaio S if that matters, and my iPhone 4S. No amp. I like to listen on the go, so sound isolation is important for those noisy coffeeshops and buses, but portability is handy too.  At the end of the day, it doesn't have to get too small in my backpack, but if it didn't take up the whole thing, well, I wouldn't mind.

 

iPhone controls are a must. That really limits the selection, but I've been thinking that if I get a pair with a detachable cord, I could replace it with a 3rd party cord that includes the mic and remote.  With further research, it seems like a lot of manufacturers use proprietary connections (is this true?), but if you can point me towards ones just with a detachable cord, from there I can research whether this is possible or not.

 

On-Ear vs Over-Ear: At first I was trying to look at over-ear only, for the isolation, but this with the iPhone controls seemed too restrictive.  Plus, on-ear tend to be more portable.  So this one's up in the air at the moment, but I'd be happy to hear people's thoughts as to what makes sense for my needs.

 

Closed: For the noise isolation.

 

I listen to bad sources:  It's sad to say, but I transcoded my music way down to fit more onto the iPhone, so cans that go easy on poor quality sources would be good.

 

Looks are somewhat important: No Koss PortaPros, but no Beats or Fanny Wangs either.  I prefer simple understated designs. Here's looking at you, TMA-1's.  But, looks are about the least important aspect of the cans.

 

So that's my criteria.  I have very little experience with cans, but this is what I've learned from trying on ones in the stores:

 

I like the Senn PX100's. Too new to it all to accurately describe why, but they just sounded great. I realize that they are open-back, which gives them a better soundstage.  The Sony Studio Monitors were too cold and crisp; I like warmer than that.  Beats and the Sony Extra-Bass are both way too bass heavy.  I liked the Bower & Wilkins P5's.

 

Finally my list of options I'm still considering:

 

AiAiAi TMA-1

AKG K450

Denon AH-D310R

Klipsch Image/Reference One

Pioneer HDJ-500K

Sennheiser HD 218i
Sennheiser PX 200 IIi
V-Moda Crossfade LP
V-Moda Crossfade M-80

 

How am I doing?  Any advice is greatly appreciated!! Let me know if there's any more information that I left out or could be helpful.  Thanks in advance!!!

 

- t


I'd go with the Pioneer or the Senn PX200-IIi. The M80 would have been an easy pick from that group except it has terrible isolation (though if you don't mind sacrificing soundstage, closing up the vents aids considerably).

 

Thanks for the response; I'll take a closer look at the ones you suggested. What makes you recommend those sets in particular?

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post


At $205 that's in the "too good to be true" realm unless they're used or a b-stock or damaged. 

 



It was on amazon as slightly used. He said "used for about 5 hours, no damage whatsoever except for the clear tape on the box. Includes all accesories in original packaging." Anyways, I already went ahead and ordered them, they will arrive in a week. 

post #10540 of 29490
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Originally Posted by PomPWNius View Post

Thinking of getting shure srh940. I listen to hard rock and love for the vocals to be the main  emphasis. I want to spend no more than 200 but I found the 940 for 205 somewhere. Is there anything better for what I want in my pricerange? They need to be closed backed.



I'm sure Tim McIlrath would sound legendary through a pair of Denon D2Ks

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Originally Posted by Swoosh View Post



I'm sure Tim McIlrath would sound legendary through a pair of Denon D2Ks



Oh yeah, I really wanted to get those but they are out of my price range. I was told that male vocals would be best on the SRH940... can anyone second that? It needs to be around 200

post #10542 of 29490

Anyone know anything about the AKG M80 MKII? Someone posted a link in the deals thread of them for $30 and I want to know if they are any better than the Superlux HD 681. I know the name AKG well, but there isn't much on that actual model.

post #10543 of 29490

This is probably a really lame question, but hey, I'm new here...

 

Is there a consensus best pair of headphones? Like the absolute best money can buy, or does it ultimately just come down to personal preference? 


Edited by Bad Intentions - 12/28/11 at 4:48pm
post #10544 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Bad Intentions View Post

This is probably a really lame question, but hey, I'm new here...

 

Is there a consensus best pair of headphones? Like the absolute best money can buy, or does it ultimately just come down to personal preference? 


It just comes down to personal preference.

 

post #10545 of 29490
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Originally Posted by Bad Intentions View Post

This is probably a really lame question, but hey, I'm new here...

 

Is there a consensus best pair of headphones? Like the absolute best money can buy, or does it ultimately just come down to personal preference? 


Provided that you are comfortably nestled within your environmentally controlled acoustic chamber while donning some fine auditioning accouterment and sipping a glass of 40-year-old Scotch, the Head-Fi TV episode 8 offered up a potential "best-ever-made".

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/560425/stax-sr-009-best-headphone-ever-made-head-fi-tv-episode-008

 

I'm sure there isn't much to debate about when it comes to such a subjective opinion.  biggrin.gif

 

Honestly, I think it would come down to personal preference, to be sure.  There are some very expensive headphones that have noticeably different sonic characteristics...from what I have read.  I'm glad that there will probably never be a perfect pair of headphones ever made that will completely satisfy everyone for every genre of music.  How boring would that be?

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