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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Do you need a DAC for the amp to work?

Depends on what you're sourcing from. Does your source have a line level analog output? If yes, then you're fine. If not, then yes you need a DAC. Remember that a lot of devices have DACs built into them (like CD players, computers, etc).
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Originally Posted by nff View Post

which amp  and amps only run on analogue signal so if your trying to feed an amp a digital signal then yes your going to need a d/ac  like you cant plug a SPDIF or a optical cable into a amp and hope it works.  where as you can plug any line level or phono into the amp and it should work to some extent. 

You can't run a raw (as in un-equalized/pre-amp'd) phono line into a line sink; it'll be overly bright and won't have enough gain. redface.gif See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_curve
post #8747 of 18740
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


Depends on what you're sourcing from. Does your source have a line level analog output? If yes, then you're fine. If not, then yes you need a DAC. Remember that a lot of devices have DACs built into them (like CD players, computers, etc).
You can't run a raw (as in un-equalized/pre-amp'd) phono line into a line sink; it'll be overly bright and won't have enough gain. redface.gif See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_curve

hence the " to some extent" 


Edited by nff - 9/28/12 at 1:48am
post #8748 of 18740

just got it, but makes my ear painful in wearing, so maybe I have to sell it

post #8749 of 18740

Oh man that's really too bad.  Aside from that how do they compare to your other cans?

post #8750 of 18740
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Originally Posted by VaryCold View Post

just got it, but makes my ear painful in wearing, so maybe I have to sell it

 

You order these from overseas?  The Aussie price is insane.

post #8751 of 18740
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post

Depends on what you're sourcing from. Does your source have a line level analog output? If yes, then you're fine. If not, then yes you need a DAC. Remember that a lot of devices have DACs built into them (like CD players, computers, etc).
You can't run a raw (as in un-equalized/pre-amp'd) phono line into a line sink; it'll be overly bright and won't have enough gain. redface.gif See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_curve
a schiit Valhalla?
post #8752 of 18740
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

a schiit Valhalla?

 

All headphone amps will work without a DAC (Valhalla included), provided your source doesn't only have digital outputs.  What source(s) are you using?

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post #8754 of 18740
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Originally Posted by jazzerdave View Post

 

All headphone amps will work without a DAC (Valhalla included), provided your source doesn't only have digital outputs.  What source(s) are you using?

A PC.

post #8755 of 18740

So if you don't want a DAC just 1/8'' jack out of the pc will carry your music out via a Y cable with analogue on the other end into your headphone amp.  It will work, sound will suffer though as compared to using a DAC.  Technically you are still using a DAC, as the music resides on the PC digitally, you are also using the PC to convert that into an analogue signal to send out to your amp.

post #8756 of 18740
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

A PC.

 

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Originally Posted by colinharding View Post

So if you don't want a DAC just 1/8'' jack out of the pc will carry your music out via a Y cable with analogue on the other end into your headphone amp.  It will work, sound will suffer though as compared to using a DAC.  Technically you are still using a DAC, as the music resides on the PC digitally, you are also using the PC to convert that into an analogue signal to send out to your amp.

 

The Valhalla with definitely work via colinharding's method.  There are some relatively inexpensive options like a usb-only DAC or an improved soundcard that could definitely increase the performance.  My Asgard is going straight from my PC soundcard's line out via an 1/8 inch --> RCA adapter.  I could make improvements, but it's far from bad.

post #8757 of 18740
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Originally Posted by jazzerdave View Post

 

 

The Valhalla with definitely work via colinharding's method.  There are some relatively inexpensive options like a usb-only DAC or an improved soundcard that could definitely increase the performance.  My Asgard is going straight from my PC soundcard's line out via an 1/8 inch --> RCA adapter.  I could make improvements, but it's far from bad.

 

Well yeah, I'm sorry.  It isn't going to sound terrible by any means, but within the context of an external DAC there is a lot of improvement to be had.  

post #8758 of 18740
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Originally Posted by jazzerdave View Post

 

 

The Valhalla with definitely work via colinharding's method.  There are some relatively inexpensive options like a usb-only DAC or an improved soundcard that could definitely increase the performance.  My Asgard is going straight from my PC soundcard's line out via an 1/8 inch --> RCA adapter.  I could make improvements, but it's far from bad.

Whats colinhardings method? Also what are some inexpensive USB-only DAC's?

post #8759 of 18740
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Whats colinhardings method? Also what are some inexpensive USB-only DAC's?

 

The HRT Music Streamer II is a great USB-only DAC for the price (~$150).

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