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post #12181 of 20226
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$2K for their cheapest model?eek.gif Worth it?

 

Cheers

 

I would say definitely worth the 2500 dollars...but i might be a bit biased tongue.gif

post #12182 of 20226

You'll find that most hifi companies don't list prices. At least not dealer driven ones (usually anyway, Zu does, Nitty Gritty does, etc).

 

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Is that their cheapest model? Their website doesn't list prices..

 

Cheers

post #12183 of 20226
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

You'll find that most hifi companies don't list prices. At least not dealer driven ones (usually anyway, Zu does, Nitty Gritty does, etc).

 

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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Is that their cheapest model? Their website doesn't list prices..

 

Cheers

Hm, all the companies I've bought from does..frown.gif I was surprised when I saw Heir Audio list their prices, as I was catching onto the idea that they don't list their prices.. Not sure why not, because then they just get more emails.

post #12184 of 20226
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Hm, all the companies I've bought from does..frown.gif
 I was surprised when I saw Heir Audio list their prices, as I was catching onto the idea that they don't list their prices.. Not sure why not, because then they just get more emails.

Some googling will reveal prices of most the speakers in the Evolution Acoustics line though, but you might have to wade through some forums
post #12185 of 20226
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Hm, all the companies I've bought from does..frown.gif
 I was surprised when I saw Heir Audio list their prices, as I was catching onto the idea that they don't list their prices.. Not sure why not, because then they just get more emails.

Some googling will reveal prices of most the speakers in the Evolution Acoustics line though, but you might have to wade through some forums

tongue_smile.gif Not interested in them for $2k. Would be if they were around $1k but that probably isn't happening..

post #12186 of 20226
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Hm, all the companies I've bought from does..frown.gif I was surprised when I saw Heir Audio list their prices, as I was catching onto the idea that they don't list their prices.. Not sure why not, because then they just get more emails.

 

I guess I shoulda said 'as you venture into 2ch land' you'll notice most companies no listing prices.

 

I feel like a lot of speaker companies feel like 'if you have to ask you probably can't afford it'.

 

I tend to find prices via reviews but sometimes reviews are old enough that prices have gone up. Shehinian Obelisks being a big example.

post #12187 of 20226
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You'll find that most hifi companies don't list prices. At least not dealer driven ones (usually anyway, Zu does, Nitty Gritty does, etc).

 

Zu does because they sell direct.

Most US manufactures list prices as they can set an MSRP. 

Foreign manufacturers usually don't list US prices as they generally set them.

post #12188 of 20226

It's kind of unfortunate Zu sells direct. While I love direct sales for some things the idea that they want dealers and sell direct is a bit underhanded, IMO. Especially with so many revisions. 

 

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Zu does because they sell direct.

Most US manufactures list prices as they can set an MSRP. 

Foreign manufacturers usually don't list US prices as they generally set them.

post #12189 of 20226
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No offense but you would be wrong. The stands are bolt together, but so are magico speaker cabinets, there isn't anything wrong with being bolted together. And they definitely aren't low mass, the stands weigh more than the speakers do. I think a lot of thought went into the stands design and it pays off.

 

I didn't mean to offend either. For $500 it's hard to pass on the matching stands! I have no doubt your combination is excellent!

However stands are whole other area of audio designs and most better ones, whether high or low mass designs, try to remove bolts from the equation. Makes sense for rigidity and consistency. The benefits of a heavy base may be diminished by it being bolted to the supports, IMO.

I can't help but think the stand design was compromised so it could be affordably shipped from China. Otherwise you'd pay $$$ for shipping the stands! 

 

My point is that if you already have "better" stands you might be able to squeeze even better performance out of those beauties, and save $500.

 

I also notice that their more expensive stand mount speaker (MiniOne) uses a completely different, rigid high mass stand design.

 

 

It might be interesting to try yours on rigid, high mass stands some day for fun.

 

Again, I wasn't dissing your speakers or stands. I just always look at the business side (my bad).

1) From everything I've heard they are great and great value.

2) Can't ever go wrong with the matching set!!

ENJOY!!

beerchug.gif


Edited by parbaked - 3/20/13 at 4:49pm
post #12190 of 20226
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The stands are bolt together, but so are magico speaker cabinets, there isn't anything wrong with being bolted together. 

And look how your little beauties kicked their butt!!

post #12191 of 20226
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

Hm, all the companies I've bought from does..frown.gif I was surprised when I saw Heir Audio list their prices, as I was catching onto the idea that they don't list their prices.. Not sure why not, because then they just get more emails.

 

You'll be hard pressed to find a custom IEM company that doesn't list prices, since they all have to sell direct. The bigger American customs makers (UE, Westone, JH) also sell through professional networks -- audiologists, mostly -- but that's in addition to online sales. Some companies have extensive a la carte options for cosmetics and features that affects the price, but that's on top of the advertised baseline price.

post #12192 of 20226
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

I didn't mean to offend either. For $500 it's hard to pass on the matching stands! I have no doubt your combination is excellent!
However stands are whole other area of audio designs and most better ones, whether high or low mass designs, try to remove bolts from the equation. Makes sense for rigidity and consistency. The benefits of a heavy base are diminished by it being bolted to the supports, IMO.
I can't help but think the stand design was compromised so it could be affordably shipped from China. Otherwise you'd pay $$$ for shipping the stands!

My point is that if you already have "better" stands you might be able to squeeze even better performance out of those beauties, and save $500.

I also notice that their more expensive stand mount speaker (MiniOne) uses a completely different, rigid high mass stand design.




It might be interesting to try yours on rigid, high mass stands some day for fun.

Again, I wasn't dissing your speakers or stands. I just always look at the business side (my bad).
1) From everything I've heard they are great and great value.
2) Can't ever go wrong with the matching set!!
ENJOY!!
beerchug.gif

Haha it's all good, I was just making sure you knew they weren't low mass. Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't though, who knows. The other thing is that considering the small base size of the speakers I'm not sure of how secure they would be on a regular stand without the bolts holding them down to the stands.
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And look how your little beauties kicked their butt!!

Yeah...I'm not sure about that as I haven't compared them myself. But alot of good things have definitely been said about the MicroOnes, that's why I bought them smily_headphones1.gif and after I heard them I knew I had to have them
post #12193 of 20226
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

It's kind of unfortunate Zu sells direct. While I love direct sales for some things the idea that they want dealers and sell direct is a bit underhanded, IMO. Especially with so many revisions. 

 

The dilema is that with speakers it's impossible to have enough dealers to cover the country.

Internet complicates things. 

In some ways it is more fair for a company control the internet direct sales. Then they can a) sell where there is no dealer and b) direct the sale to their local dealer, if applicable. 

Also Zu's prices would be higher if they did not capture some % of full retail for their product.

If they only capture wholesale sales (like Grado) they would have to raise prices to maintain margins.

It's not easy!

post #12194 of 20226

Then they need to have a way to not screw the few dealers they have by revising on a regular basis.

 

New product is one thing, but making your dealers out of date and essentially making the product they have on the floor useless is wrong.

 

My local dealer told me he won't be stocking them on the floor anymore (which unfortunately means no more demos) because it's happen to him multiple times.

 

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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

The dilema is that with speakers it's impossible to have enough dealers to cover the country.

Internet complicates things. 

In some ways it is more fair for a company control the internet direct sales. Then they can a) sell where there is no dealer and b) direct the sale to their local dealer, if applicable. 

Also Zu's prices would be higher if they did not capture some % of full retail for their product.

If they only capture wholesale sales (like Grado) they would have to raise prices to maintain margins.

It's not easy!

post #12195 of 20226
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post

Then they need to have a way to not screw the few dealers they have by revising on a regular basis.

New product is one thing, but making your dealers out of date and essentially making the product they have on the floor useless is wrong.

My local dealer told me he won't be stocking them on the floor anymore (which unfortunately means no more demos) because it's happen to him multiple times.
Yeah they seem to have a similar problem as kingwa at audio gd, in that he always wants to have the best possible product out by releasing constant revisions. I guess there's arguments for both sides, and I can understand wanting to get some new development out as soon as possible
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