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post #16 of 26
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Originally posted by psyco1
I couldn't wear the 125's for more than 20 minutes or so with the bowls. With the senn's on, I forget they're on.
Same here (experience with Senn's), although I have had a couple of multi-hour sessions with the Grado's (adjusting every bit or so).
post #17 of 26
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Thanks for your responses - ATH900 on order

Thanks for everyones responses. I have the ATH-A900 on order now from Audio Cubes. It's been highly recommended by numerous folks on this post as well as many others including a few of the Head-Fi "supremuses".

I don't think it's ever going to end....
post #18 of 26
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Originally posted by psyco1
I couldn't wear the 125's for more than 20 minutes or so with the bowls. With the senn's on, I forget they're on.
True, they are the most comfortable pads yet, very soft,verlvety.
Short of actual velvet fabric, I have never seen anything softer.
I did not like the result the pads had on sound..... wondering if I could make some kind of hybrid bowl or fladpad, combining the two differrent pads.
post #19 of 26
I was hooked on my SR325's for classic rock, then I purchased a Equinox cable for my 580's. WOW what a difference. It really changed the way the 580's sounded for the better. I sold my Grado's and have never looked back.
post #20 of 26
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Originally posted by markkr
I was hooked on my SR325's for classic rock, then I purchased a Equinox cable for my 580's. WOW what a difference. It really changed the way the 580's sounded for the better. I sold my Grado's and have never looked back.
Those cables must have some kind of something (capacitors, whatever) in them to alter the frequency balance of the headphone. There's no way a cable could make a drastic difference in sound... at least, I've never heard any major/drastic changes like that after swapping cables with other components before.
post #21 of 26
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Originally posted by fewtch
Those cables must have some kind of something (capacitors, whatever) in them to alter the frequency balance of the headphone. There's no way a cable could make a drastic difference in sound... at least, I've never heard any major/drastic changes like that after swapping cables with other components before.
I'm no electrical engineer, so I cannot explain why they sound different, but there is a noticable difference. I have never heard very noticable differences with cable upgrades in the past either.

This cable makes them sound less laid back, maybe even a little brighter?

Again, I dont know why, all I know is what I hear.
post #22 of 26
Cables makes an appreciable difference in the way your system will sound. Even changing interconnects between your source & amp makes an appreciable difference. Not even necessarily more expensive interconnects, but better ones (most of the time better => more expensive though).

At our last Bay Area meet, we had a chance to extensively test a couple of different cables. The one that impressed me the most was the Zu Mobius. Zu Mobius + HD580 brought it closer to a level of HD650 + stock (or maybe even Cardas, I didn't think the Cardas cable improved it that much).

Cable does make a difference, since you are dealing with analog, electronic signals... cable design could clean up the signal, change the signal, distort the signal.. so on, so forth.
post #23 of 26
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Originally posted by lindrone
Cables makes an appreciable difference in the way your system will sound. Even changing interconnects between your source & amp makes an appreciable difference. Not even necessarily more expensive interconnects, but better ones (most of the time better => more expensive though).

At our last Bay Area meet, we had a chance to extensively test a couple of different cables. The one that impressed me the most was the Zu Mobius. Zu Mobius + HD580 brought it closer to a level of HD650 + stock (or maybe even Cardas, I didn't think the Cardas cable improved it that much).

Cable does make a difference, since you are dealing with analog, electronic signals... cable design could clean up the signal, change the signal, distort the signal.. so on, so forth.
Well I am an Electrical Engineer and I definately don't understand it unless there is some change in impedence. At these low frequencies, it's very hard to understand why cabling makes so much difference. I would be a bigger believer with blind testing results. I just saw yesterday where someone is selling a $500 power cord and it's a stereophile/audiophile magazine recommended buy product. While I can understand the benefits of lower impedance for the incoming AC on high output, or high drain, amplifiers and such, I can't see how anyone could pay $500 for what amounts to big conductor line cord. The same result could be gotten from an electric dryer or electric stove cord which probably runs around $40.00. I think I need to start designing products for the audio market.
post #24 of 26
Even though it's really not part of the thread topic, I am inclined also to give my opinion regarding cables and cable upgrades: while the difference between the stock and upgrade cable is subtle, the most value for your dollar if you already have a pretty decent setup is to upgrade the cable on a HD580, 600, or 650, in my experience.

A headphone's cable definitely does not make or break the sound, at least for me. I find that the HD600 is still the HD600, whether or not its using the stock cable, the HD650's stock cable, or the cardas cable. Instead, a better wire to the drivers simply opens up the sound more and lets the listener really truly hear what the headphone itself is capable of.

I definitely think that after the headphone, the source and recordings are most important, followed by amp and cables/interconnects, but the point is that any serious shortcoming in one part of the chain will fail to dce of equipment.eliver the potential of every other piece of equipment.

Back on topic, the DT880 has finesse nearly as good as the HD600, and a more intimate / aggressive high end. However, be forewarned. Some people say they are too "dry" for rock, although I completely disagree, finding them a nice balancing point between the overtly aggressive RS-1 and the slightly laid-back HD600. However, they may sound different to you because your associated equipment is different. All three of these headphones sound different depending upon the type of amp and source you are using.

Cheers,
Geek
post #25 of 26
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Originally posted by Spent&Bent
True, they are the most comfortable pads yet, very soft,verlvety.
Short of actual velvet fabric, I have never seen anything softer.
I did not like the result the pads had on sound..... wondering if I could make some kind of hybrid bowl or fladpad, combining the two differrent pads.
Did you cut a hole in them and flip'em around? If you get the hole the right size, they form into the shape of bows, just much softer.
post #26 of 26
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Originally posted by psyco1
Did you cut a hole in them and flip'em around? If you get the hole the right size, they form into the shape of bows, just much softer.
Yes I tried everything, problem was I did not like the sound.
It did however make my ears tingle / itching less after about one hour or more listening, and feeling a bit cooler as well, compared to the stock bowls.

As soon as I have cash available again I am getting some flats and new 414 pads and will try to conjure up a hybrid that will keep the sound of the bowls yet is softer.
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