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post #91 of 208
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If you have the W4, do you NEED another earphone? The W4 is a politer sweet than the SP or MX model, meaning that it has possibility to bring a bit more emotion or emphasis from certain midrange instruments. The j-phonics is slightly more sterile, but remains incredibly focused in the bass and midrange with just enough sparkle up top. It isn't as spacious as the W4 in the midrange when shuffling from percussion to strings, for example, but as an image, it presents them slightly more powerfully. 

 

I think the W4 will probably appeal to audiophiles more and the j-phonics to the musicians/exercise crowd more. The j-phonics' fit is unparalleled and its customisation quite legendary. It isn't as thick in the mids as the UM3x or the W4, unless you listen to the MX, which has a smoothed out top end, so the midrange seems more forward.

 

Space-wise, it's sort of hard to say as the SP throws a good image, but in a different way to the W4, for instance. The W4 has a lot of space in the strings and percussion, but not as much in the bass as the j-phonics. Each have their strengths, there, and are hard to give a good 'winner' badge to because each display these strengths in different areas.

post #92 of 208

Interesting comparisons. 

 

There site is indeed nice.

post #93 of 208
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j-phonics site? Westone site? 

post #94 of 208
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It isn't as thick in the mids as the UM3x or the W4, unless you listen to the MX, which has a smoothed out top end, so the midrange seems more forward.


W4 has thick mids? Are we talking SM3 like thick mids? I've never heard a Westone, still trying to get a grasp of their sound sig.

post #95 of 208
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there I go again trying type coherently. The W4 has more detailed upper mids in comparison to the j-phonics. The j-phonics, in some ways, are more powerful in the low mids, so certain vocals, fleshy strings, etc., but the W4 overall, sounds clearer, where the j-phonics sounds sharper. yes, I think there is a difference. The sharp is both good and bad. Good is that the echo is incredibly sweet, bad in that there isn't as much 'soul' to some soulful music. The W4 in places comes out politely, where the j-phonics cracks 'good ones' here and there. 

 

Neither is really crazy powerful, but the j-phonics in comparison has a feeling of raw power, though somewhat neutered in comparison to really edgy earphones. Think smoother CK10 with much funner low end: W4. Think SA6 with more detailed midrange air and slightly darker high end: j-phonics. Both are gems, for sure, but I feel the comfort and fit of the j-phonics gives it a more practical edge.
 

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W4 has thick mids? Are we talking SM3 like thick mids? I've never heard a Westone, still trying to get a grasp of their sound sig.



 

post #96 of 208
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post

If you have the W4, do you NEED another earphone? 

 

 lol, i just want earphone for that non-fatiguing sparkle-less stage monitor sound for super-extended hours of listening

and also very comfortable that i could being able to use them while i'm lying down with my ears pushing against the pillow

 

should i stick with the UM3X or go for the MX version of j-phonics???

post #97 of 208
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Haha, the j-Phonics will fit all those better than the UM3X. Both are incredible, but the j-phonics is one of a very very select couple that doesn't hurt when used laying down on a pillow. The UM3x is still not perfect for that. For actual stage use, they are in the same leage, though the j-phonics 'dangles' better at the ear if you need to have a chat!

post #98 of 208

my wallets are really scared right now lol

 

and which version of j-phonics sounded more like UM3X? (ie. roll-off highs)

 


Edited by W1CKED - 3/10/11 at 5:46am
post #99 of 208

Great to see some musicians posting! Some quick notes:

 

In general, IEMs for stage monitoring are (or, IMHO, should be) designed to be sonically neutral. The reason for this is that there is an actual sound engineer whose job it is to tailor both the mix and the EQ for each musician on stage. Some musicians want to hear a CD-style mix but with "more me," while others just want to hear kick/snare and their own instrument/voice. and everything in between. There may be environmental noise (HVAC, buzzing lights etc) that need to be controlled, plus a plethora of other factors affecting the in-ear mix. There are other key areas that are critical in a pro touring environment as well -- comfort, ability to maintain seal, degree of isolation, ruggedness, etc. -- that may be less (or more) important to the home listener.

 

The point: on stage, musician needs are very individual, which is why it's technically best to start from a neutral/reference baseline. That's the sonic philosophy that all Sensaphonics IEMs are designed from. The j-phonics are designed for stage applications first and foremost, and are based on the sound signature of the Sensaphonics 2X-S for that reason.

 

Obviously, live performance is a very different application than home audiophile or mobile listening. But great sound is great sound, so it's no surprise that a well-designed stage IEM would also appeal to audiophiles.


Edited by JackKontney - 3/10/11 at 9:58am
post #100 of 208
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..But great sound is great sound, so it's no surprise that a well-designed stage IEM would also appeal to audiophiles


Very true.

 

post #101 of 208
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post

j-phonics site? Westone site? 



J-phonics.......

 

@Jack, I agree.

 

These sound extremely nice I'm more curious on the do I need thing if I already have a SM3. Decisions, decisions. rolleyes.gif

post #102 of 208
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Great to see some musicians posting! Some quick notes:

 

In general, IEMs for stage monitoring are (or, IMHO, should be) designed to be sonically neutral. <snip>

 

The point: on stage, musician needs are very individual, which is why it's technically best to start from a neutral/reference baseline. That's the sonic philosophy that all Sensaphonics IEMs are designed from. The j-phonics are designed for stage applications first and foremost, and are based on the sound signature of the Sensaphonics 2X-S for that reason.

 

I appreciate hearing your comments Jack.

 

I have been debating whether the j-phonics will be present themselves as being neutral to my ears, or whether I should go for something more analytical like an ER4S or DBA-02. I had looked at the 2X-S some time ago, when the venue I play in first talked about going with IEM's. I have never used IEM's, and while the custom fit was attractive, it was also a barrier. Committing to a set would have been a huge risk for me, as selling them used is not an option. So, the universal nature of the j-phonics is very appealing, as is the lower price.

 

Terry.

post #103 of 208

Sounds like solid logic to me. In Japan, universals are used on stage much more than they are in the US and Europe, which is why Sensaphonics Japan developed the j-phonics.

 

I wish you great success in your search.

post #104 of 208

Jack, do you know if Sensaphonics Japan was impacted by the earthquake or tsunami? Hopefully, everyone is safe.

 

Terry.

post #105 of 208

Taka (the big kahuna there) emailed us this morning to say he was fine, but stuck in the office and would have to sleep there. No trains running, no highways open. His family is also OK. Haven't heard anything since.

 

Thanks for asking.

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