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better? maybe, thats up to personal preference.

 

different? very much so.

 

the frequency response and color of the HD65o will be more similar to the denon than the grado's.

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=243&graphID[]=853&graphID[]=373

 

i would love to try a pair of grados, but i'm already pretty sure it wouldn't be my cup of tea.
 

 


Would this graph imply that the Denon D2000 and Senn 650 are NOT a good pair to own since they have the same frequency response? 

Basically, they are too similar to compliment each other well?
 

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FR graphs don't mean Sh**.

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Originally Posted by Satellite_6 View Post

FR graphs don't mean Sh**.

 

Yes and no, mostly no, but I want to delve seriously into this tutorial soon:

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/wiki/tutorial-on-how-to-equalize-headphones
 

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I dont know about anyone else, but the FS forum seems like a mixed blessing for many of us outside the continental US. Even WITH the GFC supposedly cutting into the disposable income of Americans. 

 

Just saying. 

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My next headphone is definately going to be either the hd650 of the DT880.  The hd650 would probably be better for my musical and sonic tastes, but the dt880 gets better praise for gaming purposes.  Not sure which I should go with based off those 2 criteria.  Anyone use the hd650 for gaming?  

The DT880 is ridiculously good for gaming; I'm thinking of keeping it for movies and gaming and an HD650 for music.
 

post #156 of 182

I have done gaming with both and I remember preferring the HD650, oddly enough. The DT880 was good, though.
 

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My next headphone is definately going to be either the hd650 of the DT880.  The hd650 would probably be better for my musical and sonic tastes, but the dt880 gets better praise for gaming purposes.  Not sure which I should go with based off those 2 criteria.  Anyone use the hd650 for gaming?  

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Anybody else ever tried dubstep on their HD650's? Obviously my XB500's would be bassier, but I am surprised just how good it sounds on the HD650's.

 

"Dubstep.fm" on Shoutcast if anybody wants to try it.

 

I have a strong feeling that my HD650's are bassier than what most people are hearing though because of my amp. HeadRoom + Crossfeed = NICE bass. Loud, punchy and DEEP!


Edited by jasonb - 12/20/10 at 8:17pm
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Thread Starter 

I'm not a basshead, but I'm quite happy with the bass on the HD 650s.

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I'm a little bit of a basshead and I'm extremely pleased with the quantity and quality of the HD650's bass. But like I've said earlier, I am willing to bet that my setup has more bass than most HD650 setups. HeadRoom amps are a bit bassy when the crossfeed is on.

 

In my car, which is a small hatchback, I do have a single 10" sub in a ported box tuned to 30hz on a 620 watt class A/B amp. Of course I should state that I also have 100 watts on each on my two tweeters and 200 watts on each of my two 6.5" mids as well, so it ends up pretty balanced.
 

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I'm not a basshead, but I'm quite happy with the bass on the HD 650s.

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I personally think the HD650's have a great bass response.  The only people I know who don't like the bass output of my 650's would likely not be

happy with anything except a big set of closed headphones and the bass cranked to just under the point of heavy distortion.

 

The fact is you'll never get subwoofer-quality punch from a set of ear-speakers.  But, in my opinion, that's a good thing.

post #161 of 182

all over it amend

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Does anyone know a good place to order a pair of 650 in Europe ??

 

Amazon.co.uk is around 330 euros.

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The fact is you'll never get subwoofer-quality punch from a set of ear-speakers.  But, in my opinion, that's a good thing.


The JVC FX500 / FX700 earphones ;)

But tbh, the bass quality I feel of the DT880 is much better. It isn't one-note-ish like the HD650 / HD600. Not the only one that feels this way.

Bass isn't all about just quantity people. the bass guitar does play more than one note people.

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Originally Posted by Stekos View Post

I personally think the HD650's have a great bass response.  The only people I know who don't like the bass output of my 650's would likely not be

happy with anything except a big set of closed headphones and the bass cranked to just under the point of heavy distortion.

 

The fact is you'll never get subwoofer-quality punch from a set of ear-speakers.  But, in my opinion, that's a good thing.


 

Well, they're the only two quality pair on non-IEM modern headphones that I own, but the inexpensive Audio Technica ATH-M50S can have subwoofer-quality "punch" with proper amplification and source material.  Read this paragraph from "lunatiques's" excellent review at this address:

http://www.head-fi.org/products/audio-technica-ath-m50s-monitor-headphones

 

"... One of the most outstanding characteristics of the M50 is its sub-bass extension (50Hz and below), which is both deep and substantial. For those that don't know what full-sized loudspeakers with proper sub-bass extension sounds like, they might think the M50 is "bass heavy," but that would be incorrect. The extension and amount of bass rendered by the M50 is similar to what full-sized loudspeakers should sound like when the sub-bass is at a proper level. In fact, I would say headphones that have less sub-bass extension/level than the M50 should be categorized as "bass shy." The M50's bass is also punchy and visceral in a way that approximates full-sized loudspeakers, which is a very difficult thing to pull off for headphones. ..."

 

I prefer my Senn 650s for most listening (incredible comfort, smoother and more detailed), but listen to the "Heartbeat" track on the Head-Fi "Open Your Ears" album that Chesky Records produced on a pair of ATH-50S with a decent (not even expensive) amplifier and a little EQ boost on the low end from the Foobar plug-in.  Sounds like a subwoofer to me in the enclosed acoustic cavity between the drivers and my eardrums.


Edited by attenuated 3db - 12/21/10 at 3:42pm
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Originally Posted by Pushifer View Post

Does anyone know a good place to order a pair of 650 in Europe ??

 

Amazon.co.uk is around 330 euros.



Check prices on german amazon, often much more cheap there than in UK/Sweden/any other european country.

I don't know anything about thomann.de but they're at 289 EUR + 15 EUR shipping = 304 EUR. Not that great but better than 330 and probably cheaper than most places in Europe...

Also Jason do you mean the $800 amp/dac?


Edited by aleex - 12/21/10 at 5:07pm
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