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I struggle with the definition of forgiving sometimes when reading other peoples posts but to me, if something is forgiving then it is not accurate.

 

 

I'll take a stab (not saying this is totally correct, just my thoughts :) - 

 

The arc of forgiving vs. ruthless is talking about resolving power, which would fall under the domain of precision.  If you have a crappy recording then artifacts will be exposed in a non-pleasant manner.  If you have a good recording then more details will be unveiled.

 

The idea of something being colored vs. giving a truly balanced representation of the audio spectrum would be under the domain of accuracy.  For instance, if certain frequencies are more recessed or more forward than intended by the recording engineer.

 

 

post #647 of 951

Any updates on where things are at with the refresh model ?

 

Back in December 2010 it was mentionned that the new model would possibly be available " in a few months", so now that we are mid July (7.5 months later), I hope they are getting closer ? ?

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Does anyone know which is coming first? The rev2 D1 or the USB/Spdif converter?

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D1 update: I'm going on 1 month of using the Anedio with its built-in dac, and music listening has  doubled. Full enjoyment-mode, and a welcome break for considering the next move.

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Any updates on where things are at with the refresh model ?

 

Back in December 2010 it was mentionned that the new model would possibly be available " in a few months", so now that we are mid July (7.5 months later), I hope they are getting closer ? ?


It's been about 4 weeks since I last heard from James at Anedio. At the time he was busy working out the details for the refreshed version. No specific time frame was mentioned as far as when completion was expected. He basically stated the goals/potential upgrades that he had in mind, but also said that he didn't want to promise things that they could not deliver... so I get the impression that he is willing to abandon some of the desired upgrades in the interest of expediency. In other words - they have a list of goals to achieve but won't hold up the release chasing one of them if it proves to be more difficult than anticipated. I get the general feeling that he wants it out before the end of the year. That is a guess on my part, NOT something specifically mentioned. I'll shoot him an email and ask how things are going though.

 

I don't recall anything in December that mentioned "a few months" for a new model. Maybe that was about the USB to SPDIF converter? But I don't remember any direct time frame on that either.

 



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Does anyone know which is coming first? The rev2 D1 or the USB/Spdif converter?


I think the USB to SPDIF product is further along in development. In May, James mentioned that they were close to completion. But because of a high amount of orders for the D1 DAC, they were left with very little time to work on the USB product. I imagine it should be close to release by now (they had working prototypes at the time) but I've inquired with James to get clarification.

 



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D1 update: I'm going on 1 month of using the Anedio with its built-in dac, and music listening has  doubled. Full enjoyment-mode, and a welcome break for considering the next move.


That's great to hear!

 

post #651 of 951
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UPDATES:

 

By now the Anedio D1 is fairly well known. Aside from my review, it has received favorable evaluations by StereoMojo, Positive Feedback, and Digital Audio Review. More importantly, there is a growing number of satisfied users who have appeared in this thread. 

 

The reason for this update is to discuss the status of the D1. It is currently in transition - the original D1 is discontinued while Anedio completes work on a refreshed version. They did not plan on it happening this way but sales of the D1 were much higher than anticipated. I am not able to reveal details on the update at this time but in general it addresses a few of the things people had wished for in the original.

 

I am able to say that Anedio will be incorporating their updated USB section, which will be a true high resolution asynchronous solution. This is not a quick fix using the Tenor chip or even the TAS1020B; if they wanted that they would have done so from the start. This will have the same features as the stand alone USB to SPDIF converter which is also coming soon, available at a discount for owners of the original D1. 

 

I do not have an exact time for the refreshed model being released. They hope it will be within a few months but we'll see. 



Hi Project86

 

It was in this post dated December 15th, 2010 that I was referring to the " within a few months"  in your last sentence. I understand this is by no means a firm date of course, but after 7.5 months I just wanted to inquire to see if there was an udpate that's all.

Cheers,

Riker

 

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My one hope for the hi-rez USB/Spdif converter, is that it can be implemented for Apple computers without drivers.

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Hi Project86

 

It was in this post dated December 15th, 2010 that I was referring to the " within a few months"  in your last sentence. I understand this is by no means a firm date of course, but after 7.5 months I just wanted to inquire to see if there was an udpate that's all.

Cheers,

Riker

 


The original post was made then, but if you look below it you will see "Edited by project86 - 7/2/11 at 8:50am".  I think there are some mentions earlier in this thread that first lot sold out toward the end of June.

 

That's a typical Head-fi type of activity, OPs tend to go back and edit/update posts toward the beginning of the thread to keep info current.  Think it's due to people getting all hyped up about something and producing a gazillion posts, makes things a bit hectic for those seeking info. smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by bobeau - 7/19/11 at 1:27pm
post #654 of 951
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My one hope for the hi-rez USB/Spdif converter, is that it can be implemented for Apple computers without drivers.



Yo pigmode, I just picked up the Sonett you sold, or at least it's on its way.   Kinda figure if you *love* the Anedio but were a bit meh about the Sonett, then I should really love the Sonett!  Or something like that.  Interesting circle, eh? wink_face.gif


Edited by bobeau - 7/19/11 at 1:30pm
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Yo pigmode, I just picked up the Sonett you sold, or at least it's on its way.   Kinda figure if you *love* the Anedio but were a bit meh about the Sonett, then I should really love the Sonett!  Or something like that.  Interesting circle, eh? wink_face.gif



:thumbsup: 

 

 

Actually I'm not meh about the Sonett, because for what it does well I'd be hard pressed to find another amp that can do the same. It has a sound that I value highly, but for the time being I want to maintain a minimalist system. That, and I will probably be looking towards increasing audio performance with a focus on classical music. And of course there will soon be a DNA 2A3 amp coming out soon, so never say never. Happy trails...

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Project86:

 

     Have you tried the Anedio amp with any AT's, more specifically the AD2000s? I assume it would be an excellent pairing for low impedance/high sensitivity headphones, but no one seems to be commenting on the D1 with ATs. Also, how do you feel the D1 compares to the V200 with these types of cans? Any impressions (or guesstimates lol) would be appreciated.

 

     Also, next time you talk to James tell him how ugly the Anedio is, and to make it in BLACK, thanks. eek.gif   angry_face.gif   tongue_smile.gif

 

-Daniel

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It would be easier to keep clean if it was blasted with a smoother finish. 

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Project86:

 

     Have you tried the Anedio amp with any AT's, more specifically the AD2000s? I assume it would be an excellent pairing for low impedance/high sensitivity headphones, but no one seems to be commenting on the D1 with ATs. Also, how do you feel the D1 compares to the V200 with these types of cans? Any impressions (or guesstimates lol) would be appreciated.

 

     Also, next time you talk to James tell him how ugly the Anedio is, and to make it in BLACK, thanks. eek.gif   angry_face.gif   tongue_smile.gif

 

-Daniel


 

I tried it with the W1000x and thought it was a clear improvement compared to my other equipment... basically whatever I like the W1000x with, I hate using w/ the Ed8s :)  It seemed to wake them up in the extended bass and treble regions what otherwise I felt was a too midbass/mids/lower treble focused phone.  But that was only a 15 minute impression so it's not worth too much (in addition to having a unit FS so it's doubly not worth much ;) .  I do know there is someone else out there w/ a W1000x who uses the Anedio hp out as well.  That said, the W1000x has a somewhat different signature than most AT phones.


Edited by bobeau - 7/19/11 at 2:21pm
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Project86:

 

     Have you tried the Anedio amp with any AT's, more specifically the AD2000s? I assume it would be an excellent pairing for low impedance/high sensitivity headphones, but no one seems to be commenting on the D1 with ATs. Also, how do you feel the D1 compares to the V200 with these types of cans? Any impressions (or guesstimates lol) would be appreciated.

 

     Also, next time you talk to James tell him how ugly the Anedio is, and to make it in BLACK, thanks. eek.gif   angry_face.gif   tongue_smile.gif

 

-Daniel


The two AT cans that I've tried are the W2002 which I recently sold and the W1000 which I recently purchased. Both sound really good straight from the D1. I haven't heard any of the AD series but I imagine it would be a similar result. 

 

Compared to the Violectric V200, the D1 has a little more energy on the top end. Not bright, just not quite as smooth. This could be good or bad depending on your preference. The V200 has ever so slightly better low frequency extension, but also a smaller soundstage. So they are about equal in my eyes. If I only used one or both of those AT cans, I couldn't justify spending extra on the V200, despite how much I generally love it. It's strengths lie elsewhere. 

 

My absolute favorite amp for the Audio Technica headphones is the Analog Design Labs Svetlana 2. It has the bass weight of the V200, the extended highs of the D1, and a midrange that is just intoxicating. The D1 might be more technically accurate but the Svetlana has more soul in my opinion. Still, the D1 sound very very good on its own and saves a lot of money too. 

 

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I tried it with the W1000x and thought it was a clear improvement compared to my other equipment... basically whatever I like the W1000x with, I hate using w/ the Ed8s :)  It seemed to wake them up in the extended bass and treble regions what otherwise I felt was a too midbass/mids/lower treble focused phone.  But that was only a 15 minute impression so it's not worth too much (in addition to having a unit FS so it's doubly not worth much ;) .  I do know there is someone else out there w/ a W1000x who uses the Anedio hp out as well.  That said, the W1000x has a somewhat different signature than most AT phones.

 

That'd be me! I said somewhere else that ATH headphones are very efficient so the D1 shouldn't have any trouble to drive them. The only thing is whether BournePerfect likes this specific setup. Next to my W1000X I also own a A900 which I barely use. But the D1 really made them sounding much more like a open headphone which I truly liked.

 

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The two AT cans that I've tried are the W2002 which I recently sold and the W1000 which I recently purchased. Both sound really good straight from the D1. I haven't heard any of the AD series but I imagine it would be a similar result. 

 

Compared to the Violectric V200, the D1 has a little more energy on the top end. Not bright, just not quite as smooth. This could be good or bad depending on your preference. The V200 has ever so slightly better low frequency extension, but also a smaller soundstage. So they are about equal in my eyes. If I only used one or both of those AT cans, I couldn't justify spending extra on the V200, despite how much I generally love it. It's strengths lie elsewhere. 

 

My absolute favorite amp for the Audio Technica headphones is the Analog Design Labs Svetlana 2. It has the bass weight of the V200, the extended highs of the D1, and a midrange that is just intoxicating. The D1 might be more technically accurate but the Svetlana has more soul in my opinion. Still, the D1 sound very very good on its own and saves a lot of money too. 

 


Ah thank you so much project86 for mentioning the Analog Design Labs Svetlana 2! I do like my W1000X straight from the D1 but I was also looking for an amp in the chain that would put more focus on the essence and flow in the music self but still keeping the neutral and accurate character of the D1. It seems that your review exactly reflects what I was looking for. No more other headphones for me since I have sold my soul solely to the ATH W-series headphones.

 

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Edited by cky8 - 7/20/11 at 6:37am
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