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I have tried NOS dacs and in my system, they all sounded mushy. I admit to having a long history of broadcast management and classical CD production and engineering. I prefer a clear and detailed, yet musical sound-as close to the original sound as possible.  (which I do know because I was there). My advice is still to try one in YOUR SYSTEM. Even with all the glowing reviews, it was the thirty day trial that clinched the deal. You could also take the deal offered above, as I doubt the new unit will offer any advantage in SQ just in the highrez capability. The original D1 is quite good enought for my needs and I am very picky, but my standards may not be yours. I value clarity, soundstaging, and musicality. No euphonic coloration need apply. I do like my ASL Monsoons, but only after I went to teflon caps. You seem to listen to a great deal of studio work which may not make soundstaging a priority for you. TRY BEFORE YOU BUY. I cannot stress that enough.

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Edited by bobeau - 7/13/11 at 9:08pm
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Edited by bobeau - 7/18/11 at 9:29am
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I'm pretty sure he is just "taking a break" from the hobby altogether - I believe he is also selling his Emotiva monoblocks, Wharfedale Opus speakers, some nice Mirage speakers, and the Anedio. Sometimes other stuff is more important. 



I appreciate the update. I had noticed that for a while there he was changing DAC's like every few months.

I bought one from him and soon sold it too...

 


Edited by livewire - 7/13/11 at 9:19pm
post #635 of 951
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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post

Quick question here lads, is the Anedio D1 'on nodding terms' with forgiving? It sounds like it's ruthlessly revealing, but I just want to know how much ruthlessness it's packing.



I have yet to hear a Sabre ESS9018 implementation that sounds forgiving, from the Wyred units to Buffalo II. All of these sound bright and slightly towards the dry side for me.

post #636 of 951

Cheers pigmode & K3cT for the info. And my search continues for a good dac that sounds bad. ^^

post #637 of 951
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Cheers pigmode & K3cT for the info. And my search continues for a good dac that sounds bad. ^^



In my expereince you should not be looking for a DAC that is forgiving, that is exactly the wrong route to take as it will forever color everything downstream. You should choose a DAC that is as transparent and accurate as you can afford and having purchased that perhaps look for an amp or headphone to solve the 'forgiving' issue.  I would recommend a good tube amp if you are looking for a smoother sound. 

 

post #638 of 951

Three cheers for "Earthling"! You nailed it.

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In my expereince you should not be looking for a DAC that is forgiving, that is exactly the wrong route to take as it will forever color everything downstream. You should choose a DAC that is as transparent and accurate as you can afford and having purchased that perhaps look for an amp or headphone to solve the 'forgiving' issue.  I would recommend a good tube amp if you are looking for a smoother sound. 

 


That's how I feel as well; the DACs task is to decode all the available data as accurately as possible, a "forgiving" DAC may smooth over bad recording but it will also prevent good recording to truly shine. With a detailed DAC you have the data there if you want it and you can build your setup to be either romantic sounding with tube amps & Grados or extremely detailed and unforgiving with solid state & Ultrasones.

 

That being said - I don't feel the Anedio to be unforgiving, it's truthful and very detailed but not harsh.


Edited by TwoEars - 7/16/11 at 1:08am
post #640 of 951

Thanks for the input guys, but I'm in a strange situation at the moment.

 

As forgiving as the Stax O2's are (catholic high school girl forgiving), they're still no match for my poorest of recordings. I'll eventually be using a DIY T2 as the amp, and that's probably as close to 'wire with gain' a stat amp can be.

 

So unfortunately, I can only play around with different sources to tame my recordings (they aren't actually 'recordings', that's how bad they are =P).

post #641 of 951

I don't think you can equate forgiving to colored all the time, that would be pretty unfair don't you think? For example, I thought that Sennheiser HD600, Audez'e LCD2 and Stax Omega2 all belong to the forgiving camp while being relatively transparent at the same time.

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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post

Thanks for the input guys, but I'm in a strange situation at the moment.

 

As forgiving as the Stax O2's are (catholic high school girl forgiving), they're still no match for my poorest of recordings. I'll eventually be using a DIY T2 as the amp, and that's probably as close to 'wire with gain' a stat amp can be.

 

So unfortunately, I can only play around with different sources to tame my recordings (they aren't actually 'recordings', that's how bad they are =P).


I'm in a similar situation. I finally was able to plug my 007s into my system which includes an Anedio D1 with a Stax SR323s amp. For the first time I was driven to change all my music into lossless. The difference is too big. I used to tolerate 192 kbps for the sake of convenience, but now I almost can't.

 

post #643 of 951
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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post

Thanks for the input guys, but I'm in a strange situation at the moment.

 

As forgiving as the Stax O2's are (catholic high school girl forgiving), they're still no match for my poorest of recordings. I'll eventually be using a DIY T2 as the amp, and that's probably as close to 'wire with gain' a stat amp can be.

 

So unfortunately, I can only play around with different sources to tame my recordings (they aren't actually 'recordings', that's how bad they are =P).

 


 

Although forgiveness may not be one of the D1's prime characteristics, neither is ruthlessness. The one DAC I'm familiar with that threaded the fine line of forgiveness without going over the edge was the 47 Labs Shigaraki DAC.

post #644 of 951
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post

I don't think you can equate forgiving to colored all the time, that would be pretty unfair don't you think? For example, I thought that Sennheiser HD600, Audez'e LCD2 and Stax Omega2 all belong to the forgiving camp while being relatively transparent at the same time.



I struggle with the definition of forgiving sometimes when reading other peoples posts but to me, if something is forgiving then it is not accurate.  I think the problem with some dacs that end up being classified as 'ruthless' is that they have other issues, that when combined with poor recordings tend to magnify both problems (dac implementation, recording deficiencies).  But I get your point.

 

 

 

 

post #645 of 951
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Originally Posted by earthling View Post

I struggle with the definition of forgiving sometimes when reading other peoples posts but to me, if something is forgiving then it is not accurate.  I think the problem with some dacs that end up being classified as 'ruthless' is that they have other issues, that when combined with poor recordings tend to magnify both problems (dac implementation, recording deficiencies).  But I get your point.


Same thing with headphones too.

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