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post #616 of 951

Anytime I see the phrase "of course" I have a feeling that I should suspect the reasoning behind it.

post #617 of 951
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UPDATES:

 

By now the Anedio D1 is fairly well known. Aside from my review, it has received favorable evaluations by StereoMojo, Positive Feedback, and Digital Audio Review. More importantly, there is a growing number of satisfied users who have appeared in this thread. 

 

The reason for this update is to discuss the status of the D1. It is currently in transition - the original D1 is discontinued while Anedio completes work on a refreshed version. They did not plan on it happening this way but sales of the D1 were much higher than anticipated. I am not able to reveal details on the update at this time but in general it addresses a few of the things people had wished for in the original.

 

I am able to say that Anedio will be incorporating their updated USB section, which will be a true high resolution asynchronous solution. This is not a quick fix using the Tenor chip or even the TAS1020B; if they wanted that they would have done so from the start. This will have the same features as the stand alone USB to SPDIF converter which is also coming soon, available at a discount for owners of the original D1. 

 

I do not have an exact time for the refreshed model being released. They hope it will be within a few months but we'll see. 



 

 

 

I just found this today so hope its cool to quote, in case anyone else didn't see it. 

post #618 of 951
What I hope for the next D1 is XLR outs.
It would be cool if you could directly plug studio monitors in the D1's outputs.
Edited by khaos974 - 7/12/11 at 10:29pm
post #619 of 951
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Originally Posted by veritas aurum View Post

Anytime I see the phrase "of course" I have a feeling that I should suspect the reasoning behind it.


Never thought too much about that. Thanks for the wisdom. ;D
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I just found this today so hope its cool to quote, in case anyone else didn't see it. 


That was quite awhile ago (it seems like anyway lol). I am still really looking forward to the USB->SPDIF dongle.
post #620 of 951
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Originally Posted by khaos974 View Post

What I hope for the next D1 is XLR outs.
It would be cool if you could directly plug studio monitors in the D1's outputs.


I don't think Anedio would put on XLR connectors unless they made it a true fully balanced configuration and this is unlikely since it would mean pretty much starting from scratch on the inside. If they did it it's probably a couple of years down the road and with a significantly higher price.

 

post #621 of 951
I like balanced outputs for the convenience they bring when it comes to plugging monitoring speakers. For a line level signals, symmetrizing circuits are ridiculously good.
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I am still really looking forward to the USB->SPDIF dongle.


Same here, although I also want to look at the new configuration of the re-released DAC. 

 

I'm anxious to set up a hi-rez capability, as I have many older CDs that need upgrades badly. 

post #623 of 951

Quick question here lads, is the Anedio D1 'on nodding terms' with forgiving? It sounds like it's ruthlessly revealing, but I just want to know how much ruthlessness it's packing.

post #624 of 951

It is the first dac I have heard that is both revealing and highly musical. Makes even average CDs sound better. The best CDs are absolutely stunning. I have outlined the rest of my system in a previous post. It is a very accurate set-up. I suspect that many CDs which were not very good sounding on lesser equipment are really better than we thought.

post #625 of 951
^ I agree with veritas (lol). Strange concept but somehow that's my experience as well. biggrin.gif
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Quick question here lads, is the Anedio D1 'on nodding terms' with forgiving? It sounds like it's ruthlessly revealing, but I just want to know how much ruthlessness it's packing.


 

 

 I would say that although the D1's sound is basically smooth and neutral, its transparency is high. The chosen amps sound signature imparts a noticeable effect upon the sound. I found my ex-Sonett tube amp to be very forgiving, and the Anedio HPA less so.

 

 

post #627 of 951

Hi guys,

 

First post here on head-fi smile.gif.  I've been looking into an external DAC for about one year now. I have only listened to the Sim Audio Moon D100 and the Musical Fidelity M1 (a/b audition). I found that they both had some good points and some bad points but they were different of each other. In the end, neither one of them satisfied me to a point where I wanted to purchase. I have read a lot of good things about the W4S DAC1 / 2 and I was ready to purchase sight unseen the DAC1 until I ran into this review of the Anedio D1.

 

My main reason for seeking out a DAC in the first place was partly because of my setup. I have to say that I rarely listen to music through my headphones.. sorry.. I know this is a headphone forum.. I do own 4 pairs of headphones, a "vintage" AKG Studio 240 that I received as a gift back in 1980 wich ended up with a short in one side in 2004 (need to get that fixed at some point) . I then purchased more current version of the same model AKG Studio 240 that same year. And I also have a pair of isolating / noise canceling Dr Dre Beats Studio by Monster (for travelling mostly) which although I am not a fan of Monster products in general, they do sound pretty good to me, even if the bass is slightly exaggerated. And to rounds things out I have a pair of Ultimate Ears in ear headphones that sound very good but are not that comfortable for me to wear. Nothing remotely close to some the high end phones / systems you guys use but at least I do have some phones :-)

 

My main reason for posting is to ask if the Anedio D1 DAC would suit my setup and listening environment, or if I would be better off with something else.

 

I have a Sonos system which all of my digital music is streamed through. My music is Flac files residing on a Seagate BlackArmour 4TB NAS, my Sonos ZP80 is connected to my Cisco router via ethernet and to my Anthem AVM 20 pre-pro via spdif coax, then the AVM20 is connected to an Anthem M20 two channel amplifier via Kimber XLR, which is feeding a pair of Acoustic Zen Adagio speakers using Blue Jeans Belden Star Quad cables and Canare banana plugs.

 

When I got the Adagio speakers about 8 months ago, I wanted to make sure that I was getting the best possible sound out of my system and so experimented with various hookups as far as DAC is concerned. I took a CD, ripped it to Flac and compared the Flac file via Sonos with the original CD being played by my Panasonic BDT-350 bluray player, and also connected the Sonos via analog.

 

What I found was dishearthening. My $400 BD player's DAC was sounding better than my $5K Anthem AVM20 (AKM DACs) !

The Sonos DAC was the worst sounding of the bunch. So, that set me on a quest to purchase an external DAC that would sound better than my BD player !!!

 

Back to my only DAC experience, the Moon 100D had great soundstage and bass, but no high end sparkle or clarity , the MF M1 had a lot of clarity and sparkle, even a bit to much "edge" on certain material.. but the soundstage was very narrow..some call it focused..I call it too narrow for my taste.

 

Sorry for the long post.. but I felt I had to get some background out first :-)

 

Given that I very rarely listen to headphones ( I also have KRK Rockit Monitors on my computer that I use for recording and listening) is the Anedio the right choice for me ? I am very much drawn to the overall quality of the sound that owners are reporting and all the positive feedback from owners on this forum and elsewhere, but I don't really need a headphone amp which will almost never be used and I don't really need USB because I use my Sonos system ( which I really love by the way :-0)

 

Just looking to extract the best possible sound out of my system. Those Adagio speakers , in my opinion, are simply amazing..

 

Thank you

 

Cheers

 

Stephane

 


Edited by Riker - 7/13/11 at 4:31pm
post #628 of 951

The D1 is out of production, pending a new model with highrez USB. When that is available, I suggest you try it. They offer a thirty day home trial and I would take advantage of that. You gave me no clue as to what sort of music you listen to, so I cannot make a valid suggestion. I am primarily a classical lover (some hard rock) so I do not if my tastes are the same as yours. Do try the new unit at least. I think you will be pleased, but I am running a purist system with the Anedio feeding a pair of monoblocks.

post #629 of 951
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Originally Posted by veritas aurum View Post

The D1 is out of production, pending a new model with highrez USB. When that is available, I suggest you try it. They offer a thirty day home trial and I would take advantage of that. You gave me no clue as to what sort of music you listen to, so I cannot make a valid suggestion. I am primarily a classical lover (some hard rock) so I do not if my tastes are the same as yours. Do try the new unit at least. I think you will be pleased, but I am running a purist system with the Anedio feeding a pair of monoblocks.

 

Or he could save approx. $350 and buy the one I have for sale since as he stated " I don't really need USB because I use my Sonos system".  If it doesn't work out you still have to deal with the cost of shipping both ways, vs. being able to drop the FS price again by $30-40 or so in these forums and only pay for shipping once.  And get it now instead of months from now.

 

Sorry, don't mean to be too much of a peddler.  But seriously, I'm a bit shocked this hasn't sold yet, for these reasons:

 

- Clearly there is alot of interest in this DAC.  "Will this/won't this" work in my system type of comments, and some emails I've received offline to clarify my sentiments.  I feel like posting my impressions has put some question mark over this piece of gear, which is just totally silly.  I'm the only person who has purchased one of these and decided to resell it right away.  The guy I got it from used it for many months then sold it as he was redoing his entire system.    So basically, this unit right here, is the only one that has ever been resold going by Head-fi and Audiogon archives.  That's quite impressive for a piece of gear that has been around for about 7 months now, which its creator claims "Due to heavy customer demand, the D1 DAC is sold out earlier than we anticipated."  600+ responses, nearly 40k views, yadda, yadda... seems it may have elevated above FOTM status.

 

- My thoughts, to try to simplify further - it seems if you're the type of audiophile who would prefer a good NOS DAC to a high end oversampling DAC (the latest hotness vs. a refinement of the hotness from the 80s), then this probably isn't for you.  Gauging by my time on Head-fi on and off over the past 6-7 years that would probably put you in the minority.  I bought this on a whim simply because I wanted a simple, all-in-one solution to drive my Edition 8s... by all-in-one, I mean the 3 big pieces - excellent internal PS/jitter busting tech (no need for external interface), arguably one of the best DAC chips out there, and a great SS amp that can drive most anything but truly power hungry cans.  I only purchased it at a price that I thought allowed me to 'audition it', thinking that I might like the somewhat warm Ed8 sig in conjunction with a very neutral source/amp.  I was wrong.  I'm a NOS DAC and tube guy all the way.  Great extension, detail, tight bass, etc, aren't what I'm into after all.  It's just a sound signature that's hard to describe, but if you venture over to the Havana, Valab, Mini Dac, etc, threads you can see why there is pretty much a solid division between both camps, and whatever that is, I'm a NOS guy in the end.  One final thought on why I would prefer something like a HDP or even a simple headphone out of my MBA over this... I do have a belief that the differences between oversampling and non-oversampling DACs are blurred at the low end.  Going up the chain both ways is the same thing as getting a high-end tube amp vs. maybe a Dynahi/Beta 22.  But a cheap tube amp vs. a cheap SS amp?  To me they both sound kinda meh in a fairly non-antagonistic way - and the Ed8s sound like they're tuned to work well on pretty meh sources.

 

Does this make any sense?  Am I taking crazy pills? (ok, I admit it... :))

 

 

 

 


Edited by bobeau - 7/13/11 at 7:13pm
post #630 of 951

Yes I guess I did leave that part out :-)

 

My taste in music is quite wide, from rock (AC/DC, Rush, Satriani, NIN) hard rock (Queensryche, Tool,), metal (Opeth, Arch Enemy, Disturbed) and extreme metal (Meshugga, Dethlock, Suffocation)  to  lounge (Supperclub, Morcheeba, Goldfrapp,St Germain), electronica (Deadmau 5 and the likes) to Jazz, Blues, Rythm and Blues, female vocals (Enya, Diana Krall, Norah Jones etc..)  and Classical music as well, I really like Beethoven, Chopin, Bach, St-Saens and a bunch of others..

 

Just about everything except country music.  and I like everyone here, I like things to sound as best as my equipment can produce the source material.

 

Yes, I saw that the original D1 is no longer in production, I can't wait for V2 to come out, hopefully it's not too much longer.. before Xmas I hope !

 

 

I read pretty much all that there is to read about the D1 and I'm sure the next version will be even better. I guess my main question is given that I don't use headphones and that USB is not that critical to me and that I use Sonos, are other DACs better suited for my application ? ie: EE Minimax, W4S etc.. or is the D1 (or it's next version) simply that good for the price that it does not matter if I don't use the amp or the USB ..the flat out performance will improve my current sound as much as the other offerings in that price range ?

 


Edited by Riker - 7/13/11 at 7:13pm
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