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post #391 of 951

Must be an Aussie thing! A somewhat disjointed and confusing review.

post #392 of 951
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Some people just use language like that when describing audio. It works for them, and probably makes complete sense to them. I think he did a pretty good job of conveying his feelings for the DAC. The only part where I was a bit unclear was the comparison with the Audio GD Reference 7.1... it initially seemed (to me anyway) that he was saying he liked the Anedio a bit better. But later he said they compete with each other. So I guess I wasn't clear on that.

 

I do take issue with his conclusion about the K701 not sounding very good from the headphone jack. Seriously? That's the first time I've heard anyone say that. Sure, the HE-6 probably won't sound great. And people have had differing opinions about whether the LCD-2 is reaching its full potential. But the K701? That's one of the main headphones used by Anedio when designing the amp section, and eveyone I've talked to who has tried it tells me it is a brilliant combo. It won't "fix" the K701 for you if you don't care for the fundamental sound signature, but that's not traditionally what you should want an amp to do anyway.

 

I do think that the pictures in that review are great. Very impressive. That's coming from a guy who wishes he had skills in that area but probably never will.

post #393 of 951

yeah the K702 are really good with D1, specially the improvement in depth and imaging IS HUGE.

 

I can agree that the bass is a little less off the D1 + K702 combo but, that is due to K702, not due to lack of power.

 

 

post #394 of 951

I enjoyed reading the review but was frustrated by the lack of a definitive statement about which DAC was superior.  When you think about it using the terminology in the article allows the writer to portray his emotional reactions to the products without actually offending either manufacturer.  I am an Ozzie but found some of imagery a stretch: "A DAC that's pure Sydney springtime.  It's got tits and teeth and isn't afraid to expose either."  I have visions of John Darko snuggling up to the D1, a glass of wine in hand, and an arm draped over the DAC while whispering sweet nothings into it's USB port.

post #395 of 951

Maybe he just found it extremely hard to decide which he felt was better as the differences were so small.

post #396 of 951
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I just read the review again and I actually like it a lot. I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing the guy too badly. He's clearly a good writer, and his article was a fun read. He may take a different approach to his reviews from a stylistic standpoint but there's nothing wrong with that. You have to stick to what you do best no matter what other people might want to see in your reviews. 

 

Also, after going over it a second time I'm pretty sure he is saying he likes it better than the EE Minimax and the W4S DAC-2. And I notice a Schiit Lyr in the pics - I'm not up on that particular model, but perhaps it is giving the K702 a bit of a bass boost, making the D1 sound thin in comparison?

post #397 of 951
So where does the D1 fit in the $2k dacs?
post #398 of 951
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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

I just read the review again and I actually like it a lot. I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing the guy too badly. He's clearly a good writer, and his article was a fun read. He may take a different approach to his reviews from a stylistic standpoint but there's nothing wrong with that. You have to stick to what you do best no matter what other people might want to see in your reviews. 

 

Also, after going over it a second time I'm pretty sure he is saying he likes it better than the EE Minimax and the W4S DAC-2. And I notice a Schiit Lyr in the pics - I'm not up on that particular model, but perhaps it is giving the K702 a bit of a bass boost, making the D1 sound thin in comparison?


 

As fun as it was to read, and he obviously enjoyed writing it, I find the complete lack of substance (other than comments by James) and generally vague comments to be distracting from whatever it is he was trying to say.  I realize that this was probably intentional but this is a case of taking it too far, the review ended up as a non review even though you may be left with a generally postive feeling. This one statement 'dynamics are positively sinuous' makes me wonder if he really understands dynamics (or audio) at all.

 

 
 

 

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As fun as it was to read, and he obviously enjoyed writing it, I find the complete lack of substance (other than comments by James) and generally vague comments to be distracting from whatever it is he was trying to say.  I realize that this was probably intentional but this is a case of taking it too far, the review ended up as a non review even though you may be left with a generally postive feeling. This one statement 'dynamics are positively sinuous' makes me wonder if he really understands dynamics (or audio) at all.

 

 
 

 


That's what I hate about 6Moo... wait wot??

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post #400 of 951
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So where does the D1 fit in the $2k dacs?


Well that's a tricky question because I haven't heard a ton of DACs in that price range. Most are either in the mid $1k range (Grace M902, Benchmark, Lavry DA10, Neko D100) or above $3k (MBL 1511E, Esoteric D70, Wavelength Cosine, all somewhat older by now).

 

The two I've tried that are roughly in the $2k range are the Bryston BDA-1 at $2150 and the Audio GD Reference 7 at just under $2k shipped. I rank the Anedio first, followed very closely by the Ref 7, and the Bryston kind of a distant third. I'm still trying to figure out where the new $4k Resonessence Invicta fits into that. 

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So where does the D1 fit in the $2k dacs?

 

If you are talking about just DACs you would be hard pressed to justify spending more money (I know, I have, lots more).  You will read (including this thread) that some people have a hard time telling the difference between various DACs regardless of price.  This is true to some degree with day to day audio recordings but on reference quality recordings the differences get larger. The Anedio D1 manages to extract every bit of detail while adding or subtracting nothing from even the best recordings and that is the highest compliment you can pay to any DAC.  As a DAC, the Anedio D1 to my ears is currently state of the art.  The fact that you get a great headphone amp at the same price makes it an easy decision.

 

Nits to pick...  the USB implimentation which I simply don't use, and the lights on the side (but that is purely subjective). 

post #402 of 951

There is diy BB DAC by Tomas Tichy for a little over ($1500) with clock generator which is almost on par with one of the top DAC's Forssell MADA-2 ($3000) according to experienced people. There is also Casea Cepheus mk2 with clocks generator for a little under ($1500). I think this three DAC's is at the highest level you can get in this prices. Of course you can not say what is better if you do not have it together some time on your table. Whould be interesting to read some opinion on this DAC's against Anedio D1. Not much real though bigsmile_face.gif

 

And I absolutely agree with earthiling if someone want to compare quality DAC's necessary is high quality recordings at least 24bit/96kHz then there are clear differences between dacs. 


Edited by knopi - 5/26/11 at 1:20am
post #403 of 951

Anyone use and have any opinions on the D1 pre-amp. If it is good then it would help sway me in my decision as to whether to go with the D1 or NFB7.

post #404 of 951

You cannot determine the sound of the preamp only as the Anedio outputs always use both the dac and preamp sections. Comments about SQ are always about both sections. I personally think both are SOTA. Regards John Dozier

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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

Anyone use and have any opinions on the D1 pre-amp. If it is good then it would help sway me in my decision as to whether to go with the D1 or NFB7.


 

No NFB7 comparison but I agree with John (veritas), it is a damn good pre, good enough to make me consider a second unit even though I have much more expensive Sim Audio and Krell units in my main systems. I just wish it were more flexible but then it would cost a lot more.

 

 

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