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post #331 of 951

I primarily bought the Anedio to be able to handle computer audio. My previous system, Muse model 2+ with microsonics filter,modified Fisher 50a's, TKD stepped attenuator and Apogee Centaurs was very revealing. I view my new system (outlined in a previous post) but just different, not light years ahead in SQ on 44.1 material. Regards

post #332 of 951
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

A lot of you guys have upgraded from low-end DACs to the Anedio, so you're noticing a much bigger difference than the StereoMojo reviewers who have experience with a considerably wider range of gear. So I suggest, don't be disappointed by reviews. It's great that we have a variety of DACs in the $1-1.5k range which are so good.


This is a good point, although to be fair there is a decent representation of some other nice DACs that people have tried (Grace M902, Burson HA160D, Muse Model 2, and some others). But I think to get the whole story you have to go look at how much those Stereomojo guys LOVED the Eastern Electric Minimax DAC. They chose it above some very nice, more expensive competition (including the PS Audio Perfect Wave). So to say the Anedio is on the same level is, as far as I interpret it, a massive compliment.

 

Still, your point about having so many amazing choices at a (relatively) low price is very true. I got the latest Audio Advisor catalog in the mail the other day, and it was kind of sad how much money is being charged by the big players for DACs and CD players. $700 for a Musical fidelity M1 DAC? $2100 for the Bryston BDA-1? Thousands for Vincent CD players that are just rebadged Shengya models? But if you know better and look online, you can get a W4S, Anedio, Eastern Electric, or Audio GD DAC that will probably beat anything in their entire catalog, for a fraction of the price.

 

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Thank you for the kind words! I'm so glad that I was able to help steer some people in the direction of this killer DAC. It seems that Anedio's no-nonsense approach to engineering and marketing has lots of appeal to some people, like yourself. I can see it being a turnoff for others though (like when the reviewer from Positive Feedback was offended by Anedio's mention of cables not being a big deal).

 

I too find it hard to believe that this much performance is attainable for the price. If you don't mind admitting it, what DACs have you tried in the past?
 

 

 

Theta, Wadia (2000, 25, 27i), Bel Canto DAC 2, Krell ref 64, Levinson, and Lexicon.  All of them more versatile than the Anedio, the Krell was especially enjoyable with my Cal Audio Labs transport.  The Bel Canto came as part a system that I had purchased used (just to get the pristine Von Schweikert VR4 Gen II speakers cheap) and I couldn't wait to get rid of it as I found it to have pretty poor control even compared to the much older Wadia 27.  The Theta was a dealer demo that I bought on a whim, and it served its time in my second system which was as not really a critical listening system (no treated walls, simple two channel monitor setup).  The Krell and Wadia units I purchased after extensive auditions back in the day.  The Krell was way out of my price league and the dealer let me pay in installments so I could purchase a DEMO unit.  Even then, it was still some 4+ times the cost of the Anedio today.  I have since heard the Bel Canto DAC 3 which I thought was pretty good but twice the cost.  I have had but did not own a Levinson No. 360 which stayed in my system for over a year. In my theater I have had several Lexicon units which while not pure DACs served their duty in the odd system.  The Krell and the Levinson were probably my two favorite units, for slightly different reasons.  The bass response in the krell was better, greater control, and I felt handled decay better.  The Levinson was all about presence, something about that DAC conveyed music in a way I found very enjoyable but it was missing something in the top end.  When we sold our last house my entire audio setup went with it, the buyer paying full, new purchase price for everything so I went on a hunt for new gear (what a treat) and so far that has been focused around my headphone setup.  I was glad to stumble across the Anedio here as I can now check that off the list and focus on the 'big' system. 

 


Edited by earthling - 5/15/11 at 4:21pm
post #334 of 951

Ok guys, my HA160 amp which I bought from pytter has arrived.

 

My rig is now as follows: Foobar2000 --> Titanium HD soundcard --> Toslink --> Anedio D1 --> Burson H160 --> HD650

 

I was interested in the HA160 because:

 

1. It's known to be an excellent value

2. It's known to be dynamic and punchy, a quality I was looking to add to the D1

3. It's known to be detailed but not cold or sterile, also qualities that should go well the D1

 

And boy did this combo work! The Burson adds exactly what I think was missing from the D1 headphone output; drums, guitars and bass now have a really meaty and textured weight to them (very addictive!), the soundstage has really opened up and become much more defined. There is a "tightness" and sense of air to the entire presentation that is very pleasing and you can really feel the HA160 taking firm control of the HD650s.

 

Any complaints I had before about the D1 lacking PRAT and dynamic impact has now been fixed.

 

I can honestly say that the Anedio D1 / Burson HA160 / HD650 combo produces and outstanding sound that is weighty, meaty, dynamic, very detailed, controlled, slightly warm and with excellent stereo perspective and sense of space. This is a sound I will be enjoying for a very long time!

 

If you're using the headphone output of the D1 with a pair of "difficult" headphones I would strongly urge you to consider a separate amp, I cannot imagine that you'd be disappointed. I'm sitting here with a big grin on my face as I type this... that's the differance it brought me.


Edited by TwoEars - 5/17/11 at 5:03am
post #335 of 951

Nice twoears. Sounds you've gotten close to the ultimate solid state rig! :)

 

 

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Well I ended up listening through the night and came to some interesting impressions.

Like in my first post I described the sound as clean. It is also tight and controlled. Listening from my Prodipes the music seemed disturbingly perfect. I tried but I could not pick out anything wrong with it at all for the first time. Cranking it up didn't change the image at all it was just seamlessly louder. Lying in bed I was listening with one of my normal setups (iMod-AB 160-HA 160-LCD-2s) and I heard that familiar sound which I used to love but now in comparison it was mocking me with this overly lushful and almost washed out sound. I'm really at a crossroad here because if the D1 doesn't open up a little bit I don't know if I can live with it, however 'perfect' it sounds it doesn't seem to have a soul.

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That overly clean signature seems to be typical of the Sabre ESS9018 at least based on my experience with Buffalo and Buffalo II. I can never quite warm up to that kind of overly sterile tonality. 

 

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That overly clean signature seems to be typical of the Sabre ESS9018 at least based on my experience with Buffalo and Buffalo II. I can never quite warm up to that kind of overly sterile tonality. 

 


Those were just my initial impressions so people should take them with a big block of salt. I can't recall reading if you have the D1 or not but anyway...

I, personally, would not call what I hear with my setup 'overly' or even 'somewhat sterile' but I kinda consider that a dirty word anyway. wink.gif

I really feel that with my setup the music is just there. It doesn't distract me when I'm not actively listening because it just sounds 'right' to my ears. But when I want to listen actively it allows me to reward my ears with its' beautiful sound.

Thanks to Project86 for your review and making me aware of the D1. Congrats to Anedio for such a wonderful DAC.

Cheers!
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Nice twoears. Sounds you've gotten close to the ultimate solid state rig! :)

 

 



I certainly think so! The sound is very "high-end", pitch black background and real weight and texture to the sound. Me likey! And they even look good together:

 

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Originally Posted by Permagrin View Post

I really feel that with my setup the music is just there. It doesn't distract me when I'm not actively listening because it just sounds 'right' to my ears. But when I want to listen actively it allows me to reward my ears with its' beautiful sound.

Thanks to Project86 for your review and making me aware of the D1. Congrats to Anedio for such a wonderful DAC.


Yupp, indeed. Will be very fun to see what Anedio can do in the future, this certainly is an outstanding product.

 

post #339 of 951

I'd like to know how the HA-160D compares DAC-wise to the D1. Anyone here made a direct comparison?

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soulrider4ever did in the post #139

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I certainly think so! The sound is very "high-end", pitch black background and real weight and texture to the sound. Me likey! And they even look good together:

 


 

Looks very stylish! 

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soulrider4ever did in the post #139


Thanks!

 

The 6 Moons review mentions nothing of fatigue, although like anything, it's personal/subjective.

 

This or EE Minimax DAC?

 

So many DACs, so little time :¬)

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I certainly think so! The sound is very "high-end", pitch black background and real weight and texture to the sound. Me likey! And they even look good together:

 



Thanks for the pic! I think this thread would be better with more... Although I guess that's true of every thread.



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Thanks!

 

The 6 Moons review mentions nothing of fatigue, although like anything, it's personal/subjective.

 

This or EE Minimax DAC?

 

So many DACs, so little time :¬)


I notice that 6moons seems to really love the Burson. It just hits the spot for that particular reviewer. For Stereomojo, it has been the Minimax that has really hit the spot, and for me (and some others here) it has been the Anedio. I suspect all are very good so it's not like you can go terribly wrong with any of them.
 

 

post #344 of 951

The Anedio has the WM8805 in the digital input section IIRC, which is known to be a bit "warm", so possibly this combo with the Sabre 32 produces good results.  I noticed though that people with Sabre-based DACs tended often to own tube amps of some description.  I wouldn't be surprised if this would have been a good DAC for me when I owned an Audiovalve RKV.

post #345 of 951

Just FYI, got the HE-500s today and burning them in on the Anedio D1.  Already very nice, I can see the HD650 getting a little less playtime for awhile.  The HE-500 seems very good with only a few hours on it, will have to see if I experience some of the break-in issues that have been reported but so far, all as expected.  Clean, articulate, great image, great bass control, all the atributes of the D1 coming through . I still want to try the HD800 though.

 

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