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post #286 of 951

Just received the Fostex RP50s. The Anedio has no problem driving them to very comfortable levels. I guess the answer to "can it drive Orthos" is answered, at least to my complete satisfaction. Another plus for the folks at Anedio. BTW, sounds superb too.

post #287 of 951
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8. I would say it's more of a musical and smooth stereo perspective kind of DAC than a in-your-face PRAT kind of DAC. (in my experience there's often a trade off between those two, they're hard to combine). I'm not 100% sure of this though, would have liked some more headphones to test with.

 

 

 

I also feel that the D1, while a great unit by its own merit, may perform best with classical, jazz and orchestral music due to its (as I experienced it) smooth, revealing and precise nature. I feel that the Burson H160D is more suited to pop, rock, electronica and such music that I usually favor. 


 

 

So would you or would you not describe the Anedio as analytical, or having analytical qualities? 

post #288 of 951

I think you're right, Two Ears.

 

We had the D1 and the 160D side by side yesterday. The Burson was certainly gutsier, the D1 a little more spacious and detailed.

 

The Burson was no slouch. It was really a matter of taste and preference rather than completely different leagues.

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So would you or would you not describe the Anedio as analytical, or having analytical qualities? 


 

The fact that the Anedio manages to be so musical while also beeing analytical (in a good way, ie detailed) is probably it's single greatest feat. But it also depends on what you mean by "musical", for me muscial means that it isn't harsh or forced - more smooth and easy flowing. It's just that I myself would have liked a little more PRAT to go along with it, but then again this may be because of my HD650s which I didn't feel had much synergy with the D1.

 

I can imagine the D1 beeing out of the world with a dynamic tube amp and a pair of electrostatic speakers...

post #290 of 951

Nice write up TwoEars. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

As per your recolection, how would you relate the D1 vs D10?

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I think you're right, Two Ears.

 

We had the D1 and the 160D side by side yesterday. The Burson was certainly gutsier, the D1 a little more spacious and detailed.

 

The Burson was no slouch. It was really a matter of taste and preference rather than completely different leagues.


Thanks, that's my impressions too. They're both very competent just different.

 

 

 

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Nice write up TwoEars. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

As per your recolection, how would you relate the D1 vs D10?

 

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear before; I've never owned the HD10 myself but I've heard it on several occasions since it's quite common here where I live. Always when I've heard it it's been through different systems and so on so I can't give anything definitive, I can however say that my gut feeling is that the HD10 is equally impressive with a really big sound stage and pitch black background. I do however remember the HD10 beeing more dynamic with more of PRAT factor but this is VERY dependant on equipment so don't trust me on that.

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Thanks. :thumbsup: for your ability to describe your audio experiences.

 

post #293 of 951
Just ordered this minutes ago. Judging by the impressions in this thread I think I'll love it. And we'll finally know if it can drive LCD-2s properly.

Cheers!
post #294 of 951
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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear before; I've never owned the HD10 myself but I've heard it on several occasions since it's quite common here where I live. Always when I've heard it it's been through different systems and so on so I can't give anything definitive, I can however say that my gut feeling is that the HD10 is equally impressive with a really big sound stage and pitch black background. I do however remember the HD10 beeing more dynamic with more of PRAT factor but this is VERY dependant on equipment so don't trust me on that.


No problem. Reading those brief impressions almost seems you're describing a Levinson sound less the PRAT. Very interesting.

Best of luck with the D1, maybe with a bit more time listening to it it'll grow to be a keeper as you don't really sound that much wowed by it at the moment.

 

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No problem. Reading those brief impressions almost seems you're describing a Levinson sound less the PRAT. Very interesting.

Best of luck with the D1, maybe with a bit more time listening to it it'll grow to be a keeper as you don't really sound that much wowed by it at the moment.

 

 

I've never actually heard a Levinson system myself since they're pretty uncommon here in Europe, but from what I gather from articles I've read about Levinson that's probably how you could describe the sound I experienced from my D1 / HD650 combo.

 

Now - I always knew that the D1 was a bit of a gamble from my part (buying hi-fi without listening yourself... tss... tss... ) but I am interested to find out myself how much the D1 amp / HD650 combo is holding the down the DAC itself.

 

I still have the 30 trial from Anedio so I could return it and go for the Burson which would be the obvious thing to do, but before I do that might speak nicely to some hi-fi stores where I live and see about borrowing one of their store demo amps. I'll think about it for a day or so before making up my mind.

 

Just don't get me wrong here - I still think that the D1 is an outstanding DAC that can punch far above its weight in the right setup. And Anedio is still a small and struggling company that I believe has some very right ideas so I don't want to do them any disservice.

 

It's just that for my musical preferences and current headphone the D1 fails to wow me. For someone into classical orchestral music listening with a pair of Grado's I think the experience would be sublime.

 

 


Edited by TwoEars - 5/9/11 at 5:39pm
post #296 of 951

just connect it to a HP amp.  Keep the D1 a DAC since it excels there and ....

post #297 of 951

Yes TwoEars it seems you ran into the same issue I did with my HD650's.  Although I'm not sure if it's that the amp lacks power or just doesn't synergize as well with them.  I feel that the HD650's and my SR225's sound really good with the D1 however neither of them have the same bass impact they did with other amps I've listened to them on.  My HeadRoom Micro amp would SLAM bass with both the Grados and the Sennheisers, but it lacked the crispness and detail that the D1 has.  I've even tried plugging the D1 into the Micro amp and using it that way, the DAC is clearer but the amp still lacks the detail.  Of the three amps I've owned and used I'd say the D1 is definitely the most bass lean as far as amps go but, I'm still not sure whether that makes me like it less or more.

 

My first desktop amp was the headroom micro and micro dac and while they are good they are very very warm and bassy.  It gives them a very big and warm sound, like music surrounding you but, the clarity and crispness just isn't there as much as it is on other amps.  Recently I was able to get my hands on a Grace m902 and while I liked that I'll probably end up selling it as well since the dac is not as good as the D1.  I noticed amp wise, the m902 was less bassy and sounded thinner than the HR Micro, especially with the HD650s.  Last week I got the D1 and have been listening to it ever since.  I've noticed that each step I've taken, from the Micro, to the m902, to the D1, they've gotten less warm and gained clarity.  Like you I feel like something is missing from the amp but I just can't quite put my finger on it.  It's very neutral very clear.  It has good extension in both treble and bass frequency ranges.  I don't know if the lessened bass impact is really there or if it's just an illusion caused by more distinct separation.  One thing is for sure, the HD650's distance you from sounds and the huge soundstage of the D1 only accentuates that.  In the end I guess I don't really know whether the D1's amp lacks the power to drive the HD650's, which I kinda doubt, or whether that is just the sound of the D1 amp.  The only reason I lean towards the latter is because, the HD650's, while they do sound a little thin through the D1, are very very controlled, bass is very textured, detailed, and tight, and transients are very quick, instrument separation is amazing.  The sound no matter how complex always seems to stay under control.  If it wasn't for these factors I'd say that the amp was a little underpowered but as it stands, I think it's just very controlled, perhaps a little too controlled.

post #298 of 951

The review of the Anedio by Stereomojo is here

 

http://www.stereomojo.com/Anedio%20Audio%20DAC1%20review/AnedioAudioDAC1REVIEW.htm

 

It includes comparisons with the Metric Halo ULN2 and the Eastern Electric.

 

 


Edited by pasgod - 5/9/11 at 11:36pm
post #299 of 951

@TwoEars and @Joelc87

 

As I see it the amp section of the D1 is never meant to provide authority for hard to drive headphone although it seems quite sufficient. I'd be a great match with low impedance headphones. Maybe you could look into paring it with a Luxman p1-u amp. According to others it's very neutral and detailed and it'd complement the D1 rather well I suppose. But again I haven't ever heard this combination so just providing some ideas.

 

I hope to receive my D1 this week and I'll using it with my W1000X biggrin.gif

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@TwoEars and @Joelc87

 

As I see it the amp section of the D1 is never meant to provide authority for hard to drive headphone although it seems quite sufficient. I'd be a great match with low impedance headphones. Maybe you could look into paring it with a Luxman p1-u amp. According to others it's very neutral and detailed and it'd complement the D1 rather well I suppose. But again I haven't ever heard this combination so just providing some ideas.

 

I hope to receive my D1 this week and I'll using it with my W1000X biggrin.gif

Agreed, I think the amp is plenty good enough for the time being.  I actually enjoy listening to it for the most part, I don't think it's underpowered, I just think it's so neutral it takes quite a bit of getting used to.  Let me put it this way, the amp has no character of its own, which lets you hear the neutrality of the DAC, which is nice about 90% of the time, but every once in a while you hear a passage and it's so neutral you kinda wish the amp had some character and would go a little crazy with the music.
 

 

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