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post #181 of 951

Yep, nuforce looks great too - two ESS9018 chips onboard! 

post #182 of 951
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Yes, I also got the impression that Calyx was the best deal.  You are right about the output stage on Anedio.

Calyx really looks interesting, but I would like more flexibility with a volume control.

 

I'm looking forward to reviews on the upcoming Nuforce DAC-9 . Looks interesting.

 

 


 

 



I too read that review and wasn't clear about who they ultimately chose. Seems like they said many of them were "very good for the price" which is still a valid conclusion, but not really the point in a head to head comparison.

 

The Nuforce caught my attention with their dual DAC chips, but after reading this review of their new and "improved" uDac 2 I lost some enthusiasm for anything they do

 

 

post #183 of 951

Still no comparision between the ref gd7 and anedion d1 yet?  Sigh.  My 30 days is quickly coming to a close.  Still wondering if this is my best option.  I am not saying I don't like the DAC; just worry that I could


get something better for the same price.  Any ideas if I should stay with the D1 or get something different.

post #184 of 951
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Still no comparision between the ref gd7 and anedion d1 yet?  Sigh.  My 30 days is quickly coming to a close.  Still wondering if this is my best option.  I am not saying I don't like the DAC; just worry that I could


get something better for the same price.  Any ideas if I should stay with the D1 or get something different.


Well, the Ref7 is now discontinued and has been replaced by the Ref7.1.  No one on here has heard the 7.1 yet, but I should be among the first to receive it towards the end of April.  But I cannot comment on the Anedio nor am I aware of anyone else who has heard the Ref7 has heard the Anedio.

 

post #185 of 951

^^

you see Project86 ( sorry i dont know your name ) has the ref7 and the Anedio , so we are eagerly wating his comparison 

 

post #186 of 951
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Still no comparision between the ref gd7 and anedion d1 yet?  Sigh.  My 30 days is quickly coming to a close.  Still wondering if this is my best option.  I am not saying I don't like the DAC; just worry that I could


get something better for the same price.  Any ideas if I should stay with the D1 or get something different.



Sorry, I know you are waiting patiently, but I've been so busy lately. I'll give you a quick summary though: The Ref7 is an awesome DAC. Great on many levels.

It outshines many DACs and CD players I've heard in the same price range, and several costing considerably more. I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone.

 

But I still think the Anedio D1 is better, and several of my friends who got involved in the listening agreed. One friend couldn't tell the difference though, so I guess it depends.

 

I'll go into much more detail when I can, hopefully soon. But rest assured that you are not losing out. You'd spend more on the Ref7 (or Ref7.1 at this point) for something that at best might be indistinguishable from the D1, and at worst is not as good.

post #187 of 951

Please make sure you test Reference 7 with the best transport available. Probably unlike Anedio, A-GD dacs are not very jitter tolerant. Your digital transport has to be excellent  to get the most out of Reference 7. A-GD units shine with (modded?) Logitech Transporters, top async USB transports (Audiophilleo? Wavelink?), A-GD CD-7, etc. 

post #188 of 951
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But I still think the Anedio D1 is better, and several of my friends who got involved in the listening agreed. One friend couldn't tell the difference though, so I guess it depends.



this is a strong statement. I wish you are right. There is a guy whose reviews I trust (John Darko at http://www.digitalaudioreview.net.au/)  that put the Ref 7.1 on the top of a very extensive list of DACS has reviewed.

 

 

post #189 of 951

Cortes, the Ref 7.1's review isn't published yet on his website, where did you get that opinion from?

post #190 of 951


I can't even find a mention of the 7.1 on that site. Care to provide a more direct link if there is one?

 

-Daniel
 

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this is a strong statement. I wish you are right. There is a guy whose reviews I trust (John Darko at http://www.digitalaudioreview.net.au/)  that put the Ref 7.1 on the top of a very extensive list of DACS has reviewed.

 

 


edit: It merely mentions that a review is coming in May. Look under Reviews-->Forthcoming Reviews. Not one word about it though.

 

Call me skeptical but I doubt the Anedio and the Ref-freaking-7.1 are in the same class. I want to believe though. But the build quality of the D1 (8 lbs verson around 30 for the Ref7) leaves me wanting. Don't tell me that the 9018 has all but negated the need for amazing power supplies in dacs?! C'mon, at least with the Ref series I KNOW where my money is going. /end rant

 

-Daniel


 

 


Edited by BournePerfect - 4/8/11 at 10:23am
post #191 of 951

 

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Call me skeptical but I doubt the Anedio and the Ref-freaking-7.1 are in the same class. I want to believe though. But the build quality of the D1 (8 lbs verson around 30 for the Ref7) leaves me wanting. Don't tell me that the 9018 has all but negated the need for amazing power supplies in dacs?! C'mon, at least with the Ref series I KNOW where my money is going. /end rant

 

-Daniel

I have to admit that I don't know much about designs and such of dacs, but isn't it the end results and not the complexity or 'impressive' looks or weight of the internal components that are important? Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

I dunno.  Just saying....

post #192 of 951
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I can't even find a mention of the 7.1 on that site. Care to provide a more direct link if there is one?

 

-Daniel
 


edit: It merely mentions that a review is coming in May. Look under Reviews-->Forthcoming Reviews. Not one word about it though.

 

Call me skeptical but I doubt the Anedio and the Ref-freaking-7.1 are in the same class. I want to believe though. But the build quality of the D1 (8 lbs verson around 30 for the Ref7) leaves me wanting. Don't tell me that the 9018 has all but negated the need for amazing power supplies in dacs?! C'mon, at least with the Ref series I KNOW where my money is going. /end rant

 

-Daniel


 

 


The review will be out in some weeks, but you go to stereo.net forum you'll have a 'preview' of his impression.

 

post #193 of 951

its not just about the ES9018 chip. audio GD's new NFB10 has a ES9018 variant DAC+AMP ( balanced ) with enough power to drive any headphone .

But i doubt it can compare to the D1 ( Just my guess , so dont bite me )

 

post #194 of 951

Yeah but the implementation of components, with the most important part being the chip and power supply, have always stood at the forefront of the greatest dacs. And if Kingwa isn't one of the BEST at both of these things lately, I don't know who is. So I'm skeptical, but believe me I am EAGER as well to see if this D1 is paving a new path. If it is...I'd be willing to bet it's the whole anti-jitter thing the D1 has going on more than anything. It sure as heck isn't the power supply. And like an above poster said, I think Project86 should use a VERY good low-jitter transport feeding each of these dacs to get a clear picture of what exactly is going on!

 

-Daniel

 

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I have to admit that I don't know much about designs and such of dacs, but isn't it the end results and not the complexity or 'impressive' looks or weight of the internal components that are important? Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

I dunno.  Just saying....



 

post #195 of 951

 

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And if Kingwa isn't one of the BEST at both of these things lately, I don't know who is.

I don't doubt that at all. I know that Audio GD gets alot of love around here. Anyway, I'm sure the 7.1 will be an amazing piece just like the rest of the GD stuff everyone raves about, but that certainly doesn't take away from the excellent performance of the Anedio in any way imo.

 

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