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post #166 of 951
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uuum not really, they can just have the current owners send the units in for a board upgrade.

 


I'm pretty sure they have decided to sell the unit separately. I know the market is saturated, but what if it is roughly on the level of the Audiophilleo unit but for way cheaper? By that I mean very low jitter (with measurements provided, not just speculated or claimed but with no numbers available), asynchronous operation, separate fixed frequency oscillators for 44.1K and 48K (and their multiples), 24/96 native support with 24/192 via custom drivers, galvanic isolation, etc. The more I learn about the many USB to SPDIF devices out there, the more I see that there are really only a few that I'd bother with: Audiophilleo, Halide Bridge, Analog Research Legato, and JKenny HiFace. All of these have some area which could be improved upon, including price in most cases.

 

I'm not Anedio and I don't know their final design; this is just speculation from what I've discussed with them. If they could do all of the above for significantly less than the $500 Audiophilleo 2 (for example) then I think it is worth doing.

 

Thanks for the info about vinyl rips. I'll have to look into them.

post #167 of 951

^^ its not practical for international owners to send the Anedio back for board upgrade. USPS costs around $100 (to india ) and UPS/fedex cost the double. We will have to pay or the return shipping as well.

 

BTW finally got the D1 ( it was stuck in customs :( )

i dont have miracle currently with me but With the AKG K702 yeah this is a great DAC. (amp even with the K702 )

 

Earlier with the K702 i felt that the width was too much greater than the depth but D1 has changed that, now i get a great 3d -spacious soundstage. My earlier DAC (of choice ) was HM602 , i feel the improvement in every area, imaging is better ( HM602 already has awesome imaging though , but D1 improves over it quite a lot . )

 

Yeah the D1 is very transparent and revealing source , AND VERY CLEAN. I have heard a fare share of DACs and amps but man this is the cleanest source i have heard till date.

 

Only drawback i can think of is that the amplifie gain is less , i had to go up to 75-85 with the K702. But it drove the k702 really nice it did now feel powerless like the k702 feels with weaker amps. BUT i bout the D1 for its DAC , in this area it delivers  :  Awesome spacious soundstage and imaging. Transparent and clean sound.

 

I will update when i get my miracle ( they are out or refitting )

I also had ordered the He6 3 months back but due to some problems between the indian distributor and head-direct , order was canceled , i will get the money back. I will get the HE6 in future though , will update then as well.

 

PS: and the awesome Customer service deserves a special mention.

post #168 of 951

Hi All,

 

I am new in this thread and learn a lot from all the info posted here. Have anybody get the chance to compare the Anedio's D1 DAC with the Headroom's Ultra Desktop products, especially their Ultra Desktop DAC (UDAC)? It looks like it uses the same ESS Sabre chip and has the similar price ($1199) as Anedio D1 DAC. It does have the balance output but doesn't include a headphone Amp. I currently have a low-end setup (Grado's SR325is+Headroom Total Bithead) and would like to upgrade to a better DAC&Amp. Looking forward to here all your comments. Thanks!    

 

 

post #169 of 951

Hi Jzhh,

 

You're probably not going to find many people who have the opportunity to compare the Anedio to many other ESS dacs since it's so new and at its price point you're not finding alot of people running out to make the purchase for comparisons.  I can only tell you that project86's review is very accurate regarding the characteristics of the D1.  It is a great piece!

 

Best of luck in whatever you choose! smile.gif


Edited by Balmoral - 3/31/11 at 8:24am
post #170 of 951
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Singh-

 

I somehow missed your post here.... glad you are loving the Anedio like I am! I can't wait to hear your impressions when you get your UM Miracle back. I thought that was an ideal combination when I had the Miracle demo loaner, and one of these days I plan on buying the real thing, unless I go with the UM Merlin instead (when it is eventually released). The digital volume control with .5dB steps is perfect for IEMs. 

post #171 of 951

project86, 

 

How are your comparisons to Audio GD Ref7 going? :)

References to other converters would be nice too - especially to W4S DAC2, Burson HA160D or Lite DAC-83. I take these seriously under consideration.

 

Greets, 

Marcin

post #172 of 951
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project86, 

 

How are your comparisons to Audio GD Ref7 going? :)

References to other converters would be nice too - especially to W4S DAC2, Burson HA160D or Lite DAC-83. I take these seriously under consideration.

 

Greets, 

Marcin


Slowly but surely coming along. Sorry for the delay, but I've been really busy. Listening is done, notes all written, a few pics taken, just need to translate the mess into something that makes sense.

 

I don't have any of those DACs to compare to, but another Anedio owner soulrider4ever did a comparison with the Burson HA160D earlier, in case you missed that. He liked the Anedio more, but said the Burson is also very nice. 

 

post #173 of 951

Great, take your time :) BTW, I got interested in Calyx DAC 24/192. I have a hunch it may be better than Anedio, considering the reviews I read. It doesn't have a headphone amp, but frankly I don't need it since I'm a Stax user. It's ESS Sabre 9018 too and does 24/192 over USB (async) - supposedly great implementaion (XMOS). I like the design better too. Anyway, looking forward to your comparison!

 

Marcin

post #174 of 951


Is there a clear winner to your ears, or is it a toss up between the two dacs? Please give us a tidbit before the final review!

 

-Daniel
 

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Slowly but surely coming along. Sorry for the delay, but I've been really busy. Listening is done, notes all written, a few pics taken, just need to translate the mess into something that makes sense.

 

I don't have any of those DACs to compare to, but another Anedio owner soulrider4ever did a comparison with the Burson HA160D earlier, in case you missed that. He liked the Anedio more, but said the Burson is also very nice. 

 



 

post #175 of 951
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The Calyx does look interesting, although I'm not thrilled about the fact that it uses USB power. And paying an extra $400 for a funny looking Kingrex PSU doesn't seem like an ideal solution. Still, I'd like to hear more about it.

post #176 of 951
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The Calyx does look interesting, although I'm not thrilled about the fact that it uses USB power. And paying an extra $400 for a funny looking Kingrex PSU doesn't seem like an ideal solution. Still, I'd like to hear more about it.

 

I gave up on it at first because of that fact, but it's not so stupid as it may look. They used dc-regenerator circuit inside and even without a 3rd party regulated linear PSU, it sounds great if you believe the reviews. There was a group DAC shootout recently in UK and the contenders were: m2tech Young, Wyred4sound DAC-2, Antelope Zodiac, Rega DAC, Musical Fidelity M1, Heed Obelsik and Calyx. The Calyx was a clear winner: 

 

 

post #177 of 951
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I gave up on it at first because of that fact, but it's not so stupid as it may look. They used dc-regenerator circuit inside and even without a 3rd party regulated linear PSU, it sounds great if you believe the reviews. There was a group DAC shootout recently in UK and the contenders were: m2tech Young, Wyred4sound DAC-2, Antelope Zodiac, Rega DAC, Musical Fidelity M1, Heed Obelsik and Calyx. The Calyx was a clear winner: 

 

 

I read the thread and understood the Zodiac was the winner. I guess all depends whom one reads ;-)
 

 

post #178 of 951

"I read the thread and understood the Zodiac was the winner. I guess all depends whom one reads ;-)"
 

I am looking into getting a new dac, and I read the whole shoot-out thread. It seemed to me that it was a little vague about how the Calyx compared head to head with the Zodiac and the WFS. The fact that different posters who heard these were giving input could lead to confusion about any clear outcome. To my mind the feeling was that the Calyx was better reviewed than the Young, but no distinction was clear about the Calyx and the W4S. The implication that the Zodiac might be better because it costs a good bit more surfaced, but was not made in a conclusive way. I would go up the ladder for the Zodiac if I felt it was worth the high price, but nothing I have read anywhere suggests this compared to the less expensive Calyx or WFS. I like the reviews of the Anedio Dac 1 here, but I understand it does not have a discrete output stage, but use op-amps. Is this true? I could be wrong, but my experince with op-amps compared to discrete makes me always prefer looking at dacs models without op-amps. Right now I am split on whether to get a Calyx or W4S Dac 2.

post #179 of 951
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"I read the thread and understood the Zodiac was the winner. I guess all depends whom one reads ;-)"
 

I am looking into getting a new dac, and I read the whole shoot-out thread. It seemed to me that it was a little vague about how the Calyx compared head to head with the Zodiac and the WFS. The fact that different posters who heard these were giving input could lead to confusion about any clear outcome. To my mind the feeling was that the Calyx was better reviewed than the Young, but no distinction was clear about the Calyx and the W4S. The implication that the Zodiac might be better because it costs a good bit more surfaced, but was not made in a conclusive way. I would go up the ladder for the Zodiac if I felt it was worth the high price, but nothing I have read anywhere suggests this compared to the less expensive Calyx or WFS. I like the reviews of the Anedio Dac 1 here, but I understand it does not have a discrete output stage, but use op-amps. Is this true? I could be wrong, but my experince with op-amps compared to discrete makes me always prefer looking at dacs models without op-amps. Right now I am split on whether to get a Calyx or W4S Dac 2.

 

Yes, I also got the impression that Calyx was the best deal.  You are right about the output stage on Anedio.

Calyx really looks interesting, but I would like more flexibility with a volume control.

 

I'm looking forward to reviews on the upcoming Nuforce DAC-9 . Looks interesting.

 

 


 

 

post #180 of 951

"Calyx really looks interesting, but I would like more flexibility with a volume control.

 

I'm looking forward to reviews on the upcoming Nuforce DAC-9 . Looks interesting. """""'''''"

 

I feel the same, although I would want fixed and variable like the W4S. I also like the readout on the front of some dacs.


Edited by Nick63 - 4/7/11 at 9:44am
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