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Best free firewall for free antivirus?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

I am using Win XP, and it comes with a firewall, which I have never really done anything with.

 

A friend got a virus, even though he had Norton on his system, and later was told that a firewall would have helped him.

 

I heard that if you are using free anti-virus, that it is better to use the free Zonealarm firewall then the WinXP firewall.

post #2 of 15

If you aren't sitting behind a router with a built-in firewall, this is the kind of protection you're getting from the Windows XP firewall:

 

windows-xp-firewall.jpg

 

My experience is that Zone-alarm has gotten too bloated to be useful these days. Comodo's free firewall isn't lightweight either but I feel it does a better job while hogging a little less of your computer's resources. I myself use the Windows 7 firewall in conjunction with my router which runs DD-WRT. 

 

As for antivirus, I always recommend Microsoft's MSE. It doesn't hurt to run a scan with Malwarebytes Anti-malware every so often either.

 

Never run two antivirus products simultaneously or you'll end up with a slow machine and possibly even deadlocks between the two. Don't install the antivirus component of Comodo if you go for Comodo + MSE.

post #3 of 15

Use Microsoft Security Essentials for AV.  Don't go overboard on the software firewall and get something bloated.

 

The best security though is to keep the computer up to date.  Make sure Windows gets updates as soon as they're available and make sure you applications get security updates as soon as they're available.  A lot of infections happen because people are using out of date software that has a known vulnerability being used out in the wild.

 

Run Secunia PSI to scan your computer for vulnerable applications.  Update any that are found to be vulnerable.

 

Run the Filehippo Update Checker as well.  It will check a few of the common applications like Flash and Adobe and a few others that are commonly exploited.

 

There are some applications that are commonly targeted by exploit packs.  Make sure those applications stay updated.  If you don't need to use one of those high target apps then uninstall it.

Some commons ones to watch for and make sure they're updated:

Java (the full Java, not the JavaScript).  Uninstall Java if you don't really need it.  If you do need it then keep it up to date.  There are active exploits going around right now targeting old versions of Java.

Adobe Reader

Flash

Shockwave

Microsoft Office

Apple QuickTime

RealPlayer

Any web browser or application that has an embedded web browser

post #4 of 15

+1 for Comodo's firewall. Fantastic!

post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by bikerchick1498 View Post
A friend got a virus, even though he had Norton on his system, and later was told that a firewall would have helped him.

 

I heard that if you are using free anti-virus, that it is better to use the free Zonealarm firewall then the WinXP firewall.


Firewalls (hardware or software) don't prevent virus infections. In simplest terms, firewalls control network traffic at the application level. One of the things that firewalls are designed for is to prevent hacking and unauthorized network access (outgoing & incoming). This has nothing to do with viruses. Most 3rd party firewalls are more effective than the built-in Windows Firewall (which is a poor excuse, but it's better than nothing at least). ZoneAlarm used to be one of the best free ones back when it was new - but over the years it's gotten increasingly behind the competition (not to mention morphing into bloatware).

 

The best way to avoid getting infected by viruses is smart computing habits, not by using countermeasures like AV apps - don't download unknown files, don't run unknown files, don't assume every e-mail attachment is safe, etc.

 

Hardware-level and software firewalls should be considered highly recommended on every Windows PC, but a firewall at both levels won't protect against everything. AV (antivirus), AS (antispyware), and regular updating of both Windows itself and vulnerable apps (listed in post #3) is also important. And firewalls + AV + AS + regular updates still won't cover everything either - every computer is only as safe as the person using it knows how to be. A PC with every safeguard in place can still get infected with viruses (or spyware) if the person using it does something wrong.


Edited by Asr - 12/13/10 at 10:59pm
post #6 of 15

What ASR said, but mote importantly, the best protection is a good keyboard-chair interface.

post #7 of 15

Another vote for comodo...it is one of the best free firewall tools available. 

post #8 of 15

Comodo is definetly the best one, plus it has antivirus built in if you wish it. Though Zonealarm is good too even though it is a bloated mess nowadays. It is incredibly simple, and if you use filesharing software a lot it doesnt require portforwarding AT ALL where Comodo still gets in the way (doesnt prevent them from working when you give them permissions, but it doesnt let them operate fully) and making port forwarding rules is a pain if you dont know you are doing.

 

For free Antivirus software, Avast all the way.

post #9 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by khaos974 View Post

What ASR said, but mote importantly, the best protection is a good keyboard-chair interface.



Indeed. Firewalls are definetly important as there are things in the internet you cant control, but best protection is using the little thing between your ears and think about it what you are going to click.

post #10 of 15

I always used:

Comodo Firewall

Avira AV

MalwareBytes AntiMalware (MBAM)

 

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

post #11 of 15

The biggest difference between Datalock and other programs is that it comes with customer support. If you got a problem or questions with Datalock, and just pick-up the phone. The problem with Truecrypt is no support.

 

Zonealarm now has a 60 day free trial for Datalock:

 

http://www.zonealarm.com/security/en-us/zonealarm-data-lock.htm

 

I have used datalock forever and am Very happy with Datalock and Zonealarm firwall.

post #12 of 15

I use the standard windows firewall and the "No Script" addon for firefox.

post #13 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ham Sandwich View Post

Use Microsoft Security Essentials for AV.  Don't go overboard on the software firewall and get something bloated.

 

The best security though is to keep the computer up to date.  Make sure Windows gets updates as soon as they're available and make sure you applications get security updates as soon as they're available.  A lot of infections happen because people are using out of date software that has a known vulnerability being used out in the wild.

 

Run Secunia PSI to scan your computer for vulnerable applications.  Update any that are found to be vulnerable.

 

Run the Filehippo Update Checker as well.  It will check a few of the common applications like Flash and Adobe and a few others that are commonly exploited.

 

There are some applications that are commonly targeted by exploit packs.  Make sure those applications stay updated.  If you don't need to use one of those high target apps then uninstall it.

Some commons ones to watch for and make sure they're updated:

Java (the full Java, not the JavaScript).  Uninstall Java if you don't really need it.  If you do need it then keep it up to date.  There are active exploits going around right now targeting old versions of Java.

Adobe Reader

Flash

Shockwave

Microsoft Office

Apple QuickTime

RealPlayer

Any web browser or application that has an embedded web browser



+1 on everything said here. Excellent post!

 

Honestly, the most important thing you can do to keep your system clean is practice constant vigilance, and think about what you're doing online. I have minimal security measures in place (MSE, hardware firewall, default windows firewall). In the past I've used different free AV programs, but apart from that I haven't done anything exotic, security-wise. I have never, in ten solid years of computer usage (and across the eight or nine computers my family has had through the years), suffered a single malware infection. Think about it. If you're ferreting around the backwaters of the Internet (I'm not judging! cool.gif), then the chances you'll come across some nasties are a lot higher. If you're pirating stuff, it's almost a certainty you'll get malware somewhere along the line. But if you keep your nose clean and use common sense (e.g. don't blindly click stuff or open e-mail attachments from people you don't know), then you don't need to do anything ridiculous as far as security. I'm not suggesting you do any of these things. But if you don't, your chances of getting infected are much lower than if you do.

 

Robbers aren't interested in the house whose lights are on and which has a security sign out front. They're after the low-hanging fruit, like the guy who leaves all his lights off, has no cars in the driveway, and leaves a window open or a spare key under the doormat. Similarly, malware makers have quite enough targets in people who don't care at all about security to waste time trying to barge into your system if you don't come to them first.

 

And don't buy the "Macs don't get malware" crap if you hear it. OSX consistently falls first in exploitation challenges. The reason it doesn't get infected as often is because it has a fraction of the market share of Windows. It's not a lucrative target for malware makers, but as its popularity, visibility, and the notion that it's impervious increase, chances are good the amount of Mac-focused malware will balloon. Regardless of which platform you use, good old common sense is your best defense.

post #14 of 15

x2 on Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free and working perfectly on my Win7.

post #15 of 15

I also use Microsoft Security Essentials

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