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post #721 of 1401

Condensing and rewording a question from my last post...

 

Can anyone describe the sonic traits of the iBasso DB2 DAC?

 

Specifically, which of these characteristics best describes the DB2:

 

    neutral / analytical / detailed

 

    or

 

    colored / forgiving / smooth 

 

    or

 

     something else?

 

Thanks!

 

Mike

post #722 of 1401
Hi Mike, sorry, must have missed the question. I slightly prefer the Dac of the DB2 over the Dac section of the clas.

I would say its nicely detailed but still smooth, dual Wolfson chips if memory serves. Of late I have been using the clas and DB2 and it's a fantastic combo.
post #723 of 1401

Thanks Nigel!

post #724 of 1401

Well...  

 

Enough of reading reviews and asking questions.  I'll never know for sure what they sound like without buying them and testing them with my own ears.

 

I just ordered one of these (iBasso DB2 Boomslang 2)...

 

 

 

And one of these (JDS Labs Standalone Objective DAC, in the new, shorter, 49mm case)...

 

 

 

When they arrive, I'll be comparing them with one of these (Centrance DACport LX):

 

 

I'll be setting up as follows:

 

 

96 kHz / 24-bit WAV -> USB -> iBasso DB2 (balanced out) -> iBasso PB2 with LME49990 + HA5002 (balanced out)  -> Toxic Cables Silver Poison -> Audeze LCD-2 Rev.1

 

vs. 

 

96 kHz / 24-bit WAV -> USB -> JDS Labs ODAC (unbalanced out) -> iBasso PB2 with LME49990 + HA5002 (balanced out) -> Toxic Cables Silver Poison -> Audeze LCD-2 Rev.1

 
vs.
 

96 kHz / 24-bit WAV -> USB -> Centrance DACport LX (unbalanced out) -> iBasso PB2 with LME49990 + HA5002 (balanced out) -> Toxic Cables Silver Poison -> Audeze LCD-2 Rev.1

 
(I also ordered the iBasso balanced interconnect cable.)
 
Once I've spent many hours with all three DACs, I'll share my impressions, but I'll post pictures of them together with the DACport LX and other gear when they arrive.
 
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Mike

Edited by zilch0md - 8/26/12 at 8:57am
post #725 of 1401
You are a trooper Mike. I'd be very interested in your findings. Especially as I already like the DB2 yet a few peeps think single ended into my 71B is the way to go.
post #726 of 1401
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpudHarris View Post

Hi Mike, sorry, must have missed the question. I slightly prefer the Dac of the DB2 over the Dac section of the clas.
I would say its nicely detailed but still smooth, dual Wolfson chips if memory serves. Of late I have been using the clas and DB2 and it's a fantastic combo.

So Nigel,

Are you using this chain?:

iPod Classic -> CLAS (bypassing its DAC) -> DB2 (balanced) -> SR-71B (balanced) -> LCD-2

I know of several other people doing this. It speaks well of the DB2, given their willingness (your willingness) to bypass the highly acclaimed CLAS DAC - and it makes a strong statement for coming out of the DAC balanced instead of unbalanced. You simply MUST be hearing an improvement over going directly from the CLAS to the SR-71B, unbalanced.

And that's why I ordered the DB2, instead of confining my upcoming DAC trials to a comparison between just the ODAC and my friend's DACport LX (which currently offers the best sound my relatively inexperienced ears have thus far enjoyed - noticeably better than my portable source, the Sony PCM-M10.)

It's amazing how many people have reduced the $579.00 CLAS to nothing more than a very good way to extract S/PDIF from an iDevice. Again, the DB2 must be pretty special...

Thanks,

Mike
post #727 of 1401
Mike, don't get me wrong, the dac in the CLAS is great and better than I was expecting but the DB2 is just that bit better. Not a massive improvement but an improvement all the same. The improvements are mainly soundstage and a little more authority.

Good luck anyhoo with your tests, looking forward to the results.

Cheers - Nigel
post #728 of 1401

Nigel,

 

I hadn't imagined that you were disappointed with the DAC in the CLAS.  From all that I've read, it's very highly regarded by nearly everyone who has used it.  

 

I was just remarking that with your having opted to bypass its DAC for the sake of supplying the SR-71B with a balanced input, I can only be impressed with the DB2, despite having not heard it yet, myself.   

 

There must be at least a dozen Head-Fi members, like you, who are running the DB2 downstream of the CLAS - people who were very content with the CLAS, before deciding to bypass its DAC for the sake of providing their fully balanced amp with a balanced input.  On using the DB2, they, like you, decide to leave it in the chain.  

 

To me, that's a strong endorsement of the DB2 - that it can offer something above the CLAS.  Perhaps I just have too high an opinion of the CLAS - all based on nothing more than reading reviews, of course.  

 

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Thanks,

 

Mike

post #729 of 1401
Mike, I shouldn't encourage you really but you do know that you can tweak the DB2 slightly with the low pass filter opamps biggrin.gif I've tried it a few times and have to say the changes are subtle and mainly relating to bass response. Enjoy!
post #730 of 1401

Oh yes!  

 

A swapping we shall go!  

A swapping we shall go!

Ee-i, tiddly-i, a swapping we shall go!

 

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post #731 of 1401

LOL, you are funny!

post #732 of 1401

I just got the DB2, I'm having a brain fart....how would I hook up a portable source like an iPod to this thing? blink.gif

post #733 of 1401

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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/5/14 at 12:29am
post #734 of 1401
Quote:
Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

Nigel,

 

I hadn't imagined that you were disappointed with the DAC in the CLAS.  From all that I've read, it's very highly regarded by nearly everyone who has used it.  

 

I was just remarking that with your having opted to bypass its DAC for the sake of supplying the SR-71B with a balanced input, I can only be impressed with the DB2, despite having not heard it yet, myself.   

 

There must be at least a dozen Head-Fi members, like you, who are running the DB2 downstream of the CLAS - people who were very content with the CLAS, before deciding to bypass its DAC for the sake of providing their fully balanced amp with a balanced input.  On using the DB2, they, like you, decide to leave it in the chain.  

 

To me, that's a strong endorsement of the DB2 - that it can offer something above the CLAS.  Perhaps I just have too high an opinion of the CLAS - all based on nothing more than reading reviews, of course.  

 

smile.gif

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

Along with this, seeing as I've talked to you on the stepdance thread, I would like to know how you rate these iBassos, curiousity is getting to me, I've also got the CLAS with Triad L3 and going to get the RX3 so these comparisons will be very interesting!

post #735 of 1401

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Edited by zilch0md - 8/22/12 at 5:36pm
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