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Personal Advice Needed On Buying Beyers DT770 (No Amp).

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 

First off, these things look so damn comfy, one of the main reasons why I want to buy them. I am new to headphones and the only pair of full-size headphones I have tried before were a pair of SkullCandy SkullCrushers, which gave me a headache and just did not sound good to me (the built in amp wasn't powered on, possibly why). How good would a pair the 770s sound WITHOUT an amp? Better than the SkullCrushers? I would be running them straight from my laptop or iPod Touch. Which Ohm version should I get? I hear the 32, 80, and 250 are all acceptable without an amp.

 

If I ever did get an amp it would only be a cMoy or a PA2V2, possibly a Mini3 if I could find one pre made. Would these amps even be worth getting for these headphones?

 

Any advice helps, thank you!

 

 

P.S.

I originally got in to audio through working on my car. Now that I'm done with that (and the majority of money that I had) I feel the need to have good sounding music when I walk away from my car as well. I have looked at other sets, the 770s are just the most appealing to me, next to Denon D2000s. Hope you guys here can help.

post #2 of 32

They wouldn't sound great from those sources without an amp. Gary's PA2V2 would be a good match for these as Gary's amp tightens up the bass to make it a bit punchier and adds some warmth (which DT770 kind of lacks) which is somewhat needed for DT770. So 770 + Gary's amp would be a good match but wouldn't recommend using them unamped, not from those sources at the very least. I would say the DT770 Pro 80 ohm or DT770 250 ohm + Gary's amp. 

 

Search the forum for an excellent thread comparing the different versions to find out how they differ from each other.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/13/10 at 1:01pm
post #3 of 32

The 250 ohms definetly need an amp in my opinion, 80ohms recommended but not necessary. Take a look at this: http://www.head-fi.org/wiki/information-sonic-differences-between-dt770-dt990

 

They are super comfortable, I wear them all day with no issues. You should check out the Denons thought because they may be easier to drive from the laptop or iPod. 

 

What kind of music do you listen?

post #4 of 32
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Thanks :) I had a feeling some would say an amp is needed, although I have heard people say otherwise especially for the 32Ohms version. Anyone else with an opinion?

 

Without an amp would you say these are still better than SkullCrushers?

post #5 of 32
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Amatsu, as to some specifics I listen to Kid Cudi, Led Zepplin, AeroSmith, Zion I. Overall I'm listening to Rap, Punk Rock, Classic Rock, Hip Hop, some reggae and trance. Not so much classical, jazz, or country. Just about everything besides those.

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Originally Posted by rainBRO View Post

Thanks :) I had a feeling some would say an amp is needed, although I have heard people say otherwise especially for the 32Ohms version. Anyone else with an opinion?

 

Without an amp would you say these are still better than SkullCrushers?


Err almost any headphone would have better sound quality than the Skullcandies except for 250ohm or 600 ohms etc headphones you tried running straightly from headphone plug I suppose but if your definition is bass quantity = sound quality I suppose not. Don't worry, the Beyers amped will still deliver very strong bass. :p DT770 Pro/80 probably are a bit stronger in bass than DT770 250 ohm but shouldn't be a huge difference but the mids are quite poor on it though.

 

FYI, Skullcandies here are concidered headphones with focus on style but absolutely CRAP sound and build quality that no true head-fi'er would ever concider buying even.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/13/10 at 1:19pm
post #7 of 32
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post


Err almost any headphone would have better sound quality than the Skullcandies but if your definition is bass quantity = sound quality I suppose not. Don't worry, the Beyers amped will still deliver very strong bass. :p DT770 Pro/80 probably are a bit stronger in bass than DT770 250 ohm but shouldn't be a huge difference but the mids are quite poor on it though.

 

FYI, Skullcandies here are concidered headphones with focus on style but absolutely CRAP sound and build quality that no true head-fi'er would ever concider buying even.


Yeah well they did end up giving me a headache and didn't sound very good to me at all. And sound quality is important to me as well as bass. Working with car audio systems getting the best of both worlds actually seems easier than doing so with headphones.


Edited by rainBRO - 12/13/10 at 1:23pm
post #8 of 32

My 770/80's are not too bad unamped but like everyone else says...if you really want to get the most from them they really do much better with an amp. 

post #9 of 32
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Originally Posted by ArmAndHammer View Post

My 770/80's are not too bad unamped but like everyone else says...if you really want to get the most from them they really do much better with an amp. 



Yeah well that is good to hear. I just wished the 80 Ohms looked the same as the 32 or 250 without having to customize it. I also hear the 80 Ohms aren't as good with the mids as the others. True?

post #10 of 32

From what I read that seems to be the case about the mids. How much that matters to you is up to you...lol...I have recently discovered the awesomeness that is Grado mids so the 770/80 mids are now unacceptable to me. I did listen to my Beyers daily for 2 years though and I was perfectly happy with them the entire time.

post #11 of 32
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Well I guess that is another thing that constricts my choice is that I need closed headphones and those are a little further out of my price range. Have to draw the line somewhere.

post #12 of 32

Which ones are out of your price range? The 770/80's? If so...check the for sale section. 

post #13 of 32
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No the Grados that you mentioned. All of the 770s are in my price range. So I guess unless I change my mind from other's opinions or if someone thinks there is a better pair for the same price, then I will probably stick with the 770s. I just need to chose a closed pair so I don't have to worry about where I am listening to them.

 

Edit: The pair of Grados that you currently own on your sig.

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Oh...yeah....the 325's are incredible but a little pricey...to me anyways. They are chump change to others...lol...I never imagined spending so much on a pair of headphones but I also never imagined getting the kinda sound from headphones that I get from the Grados. I don't think you can really go wrong with the 770 lineup...listen to them for a while and if the time comes...sell them off. They seem to have a pretty good re-sale potential. The ones I see in the FS section don't seem to linger too long. I guess the difficult part is deciding which 770/880/990 to go with as you are obviously seeing. I don't remember why I went with the 80's like I did. I think I just read one review...branched from there and read a few more favorable reviews on the 80's, and just pulled the trigger. I never really looked into the other 770 options. Might not have been the best way to do it but it made it easy...lol


Edited by ArmAndHammer - 12/13/10 at 1:56pm
post #15 of 32

Ofc there exists many other choices than exactly those Beyers but if you have already set your eyes on those I don't want to try and make things more complicated for you either and since you've only used the Skullcrushers before it's REALLY hard to make any recommendations as it's like impossible to tell exactly how you like it to sound like. Headphones can really sound very different yet cost the same and please different people... I suppose I'm among the luckier guys that hasn't spent that much on headphones yet know exactly how I want everything to sound like as the headphones I've tried have all sounded very differently so it gets pretty much contrasted at which direction I should look to get the most suitable headphones for me. So yea dealing with car audio setups is probably much easier like you said. ^^

 

Some people get luckier and start off with a headphone that is to their taste, some people just starts off at the very wrong end and some people are perfectly happy with what they have and couldn't imagine anything sounded better UNTIL they happen to try a different sounding headphone that actually sounds more to their liking that they could have imagined. The latter applies to me. ^^


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 12/13/10 at 2:25pm
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