really? I find the p series great for my ears.. I don't like the star tips really.. I don't mind the black silicone ones but it's hard to keep them in my ears with them being Realy short.. I also tried.. I'm not sure what series they would be. .But the old short grey complys that came with Westone products before.. As I have about four different Westone iems so I have tons of tips.. And believe me I've tried everyone with the w4r.. I myself find the p series the best.. Comfort.. Sound.. And the isolation is about the same to.. Again just my opinion but I find any other star tip.. The silicone ones.. Just to edgy or treblly.. Sorry I'm not the greatest at describing stuff lol I also heard that they fair very well with shorter tips.. That's probably why they sound good with the short grey complys I just described.. :-) happy listening..
Try the larger star tips...they are longer as well ...orange ones