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A 75-100 ohm resistor will help knock that peak down a bit. They can be found on eBay or if you or someone you know has the TF10 the airline adapter they came with wooks well (said to be 100 ohms).
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Originally Posted by ericr View Post

A 75-100 ohm resistor will help knock that peak down a bit. They can be found on eBay or if you or someone you know has the TF10 the airline adapter they came with wooks well (said to be 100 ohms).

 

Thanks for the tip, I actually have a TF10 airline adapter.  I tried it out and all seemed to do was lower the volume.  Bringing them up to my normal listening volume still produces the peak.  Lol I guess it's really just me.

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Originally Posted by KetchupNinja View Post
 

I just got a pair of 4R's and I'm really not liking it.  The treble spike around 7-10k sounds really piercing to my ears.  I've tried the star tips, true fit, and shure olives and it doesn't help.  Maybe the 4R isn't for me?


The 4R isn't for you in that case. I can think of so many other IEMs with much higher treble than this so if you think the 4R is piercing then you better try others like the SM3 or shure 535 which have a rolled off treble but still keeps most of the mids

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Originally Posted by KetchupNinja View Post
 

I just got a pair of 4R's and I'm really not liking it.  The treble spike around 7-10k sounds really piercing to my ears.  I've tried the star tips, true fit, and shure olives and it doesn't help.  Maybe the 4R isn't for me?

 

Interesting...
I actually think there is quite a roll-off in the highs. Especially when compared to the DBA-02 or like.


That said... try Comply P-series foamies. They are known for attenuation of the highs, and might be just what you need.

 

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by KetchupNinja View Post
 

I just got a pair of 4R's and I'm really not liking it.  The treble spike around 7-10k sounds really piercing to my ears.  I've tried the star tips, true fit, and shure olives and it doesn't help.  Maybe the 4R isn't for me?

 

Either let them burn in (and your ears psychologically adjust) or try adding resistance.  The spike is around the 10 kHz (measured and confirmed by Rin, Tyll, and myself).  Comply Foam may help it a bit though.  Also, if you get some wider-bored tips, it may boost the upper treble a bit and help the spike itself (although the bump past 10k will still be there since the 2-9 kHz regions are attenuated).  Personally though, I think the W4 may not be for you.  I'd say try something like the HiFiMan RE-600 which is a little more stable with the treble regions.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by kookoo View Post
 


The 4R isn't for you in that case. I can think of so many other IEMs with much higher treble than this so if you think the 4R is piercing then you better try others like the SM3 or shure 535 which have a rolled off treble but still keeps most of the mids

 

 

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Interesting...
I actually think there is quite a roll-off in the highs. Especially when compared to the DBA-02 or like.


That said... try Comply P-series foamies. They are known for attenuation of the highs, and might be just what you need.

 

Good luck.

 

I don't think he's complaining about the quantity, rather a distinct spike that is around the 10 kHz range.  The treble is generally attenuated except for a single, large spike.  The W4 can sound a little piercing at times because of the spike.

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I'd say the W4 is not for him.  It's the smoothest most refined universal I have ever heard.

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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post
 

I'd say the W4 is not for him.  It's the smoothest most refined universal I have ever heard.

I agree...nothing shrill or piercing to me. I think he must be sensitive to the highs

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Yeah, I'm really sensitive to treble frequencies.  Out of the box, I thought the W4 sounded terrible.  I listened to it for a few days and found them to be much better, but that peak really gets to me.  

 

I can see why the W4 is so well regarded, I'm glad I at least had the opportunity to try them out.

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Maybe the SM64 then. Similar signature to the W4 with more sub-bass, no mid-bass hump, slightly more forward mids, and clear highs with decently extention and some nice sparkle (but not harsh or hot). And like the W4 , no sibilance. Overall, a cohesive and coherent sound from top to bottom.
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Originally Posted by shane55 View Post

Interesting...

I actually think there is quite a roll-off in the highs. Especially when compared to the DBA-02 or like.


That said... try Comply P-series foamies. They are known for attenuation of the highs, and might be just what you need.

Good luck.
I use the p series tips and I find them the best tips sound wise for the w4r hands down.. The only star tips that sound OK are the black medium foam ones and the black silicon ones.. But I have a hard time with the silicone tips staying tight in my ears and loosing the seal.. With the p series tips they stay put and are very comfortable and makes them sound great. Highs.. Mids..And lows..
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Originally Posted by pacman46 View Post


I use the p series tips and I find them the best tips sound wise for the w4r hands down.. The only star tips that sound OK are the black medium foam ones and the black silicon ones.. But I have a hard time with the silicone tips staying tight in my ears and loosing the seal.. With the p series tips they stay put and are very comfortable and makes them sound great. Highs.. Mids..And lows..

i agree with you on the star silicone, for me also the black silicone is the best of the bunch.

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i agree with you on the star silicone, for me also the black silicone is the best of the bunch.
yes for sure.. I find that any other silicone star tip just makes them to treble happy lol with the p series makes everything sounds rite.. But Using the long star medium silicone tips with my shure 535's makes them sound great.. Go figure lol
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yes for sure.. I find that any other silicone star tip just makes them to treble happy lol with the p series makes everything sounds rite.. But Using the long star medium silicone tips with my shure 535's makes them sound great.. Go figure lol

haha birds of a feather, i use the silicone for my se535 too. i need to revisit the comply's  they are to me wonderful for comfort, but me personally i find them to give a veil to the mids and high...at least to me....but i should give them a visit and see if i can come to love them..

 

could just be my rig amp/amp/cable/ect who knows

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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post

haha birds of a feather, i use the silicone for my se535 too. i need to revisit the comply's  they are to me wonderful for comfort, but me personally i find them to give a veil to the mids and high...at least to me....but i should give them a visit and see if i can come to love them..

could just be my rig amp/amp/cable/ect who knows
try the p series.. They work really good with the w4r.. Imo.
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Originally Posted by pacman46 View Post

try the p series.. They work really good with the w4r.. Imo.
someone told me that the red foam star tips are the same as the p series.. And I've tried them and they don't sound a like at all at least to me.. Weird cause they look to be the same size almost
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