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Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
 

 

If you decide to reshell, you may try to bend the nozzle a little bit, you can send it in for the reshell if anything goes wrong. 

 

My w4 fell between the car doors as I closed it a couple of weeks ago, I was happy that the nozzle cracked slightly at the opening and that it was bent a bit. I was able to bend it back with some tweezers (careful not to use tweezers with teeth) and with the tips on, you can't even tell there's anything wrong with them.

 

Great construction on westone's part, this happened to my Shure E500, the shell broke apart immediately and Shure refused to fix it even if I paid, that was when there were cable problems with the E500...

if you attempt to ''bend'' the nozzle, SNAP is what it will do.....by no means is the nozzle of the westone w4/r weak like problems with the se535 and even the se535 wouldnt and couldnt bend into place.

 

the proguard earportz might help as they have a more ergonomic design. these are my w4r with the proguards  you can get the trial pack for 30.00 comes with small,medium,large and xtra large

 

but by no means will you even remotely be able to bend the nozzle into a comfort position.

 

also something to take into consideration is the se535 might not be for you either if you cant get the w4r to work, as the nozzle on the 535 are longer and pretty much the same degree in angle as the w4r....the w4r nozzle is shorter and thicker.

 

post #4862 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post

i would say its your DAP. 

if you want aggressive mids i think the se535 would better suite your needs. the westone w4 are a reference iem. no one frequency is emphasized more than another. when taking that into consideration the w4 are one of the best universal for reference sound.

Tips do play a huge roll in what you hear and what is more or less emphasized. if you are trying to get great sound out of the star tip kit forget it.

as far as perceiving a veil, i always read that. and i totally hear no veil whatsoever...of course im not using your everyday equipment with the w4 which seems many ppl do then come up with a decision on how well they sound.

also as far as the treble is concerned again depends on what dap or what amp and dac you are using, personally i owned the se535-ltd-j and i think the w4r treble extend farther than the ltd-j. there really to me isnt any treble ceiling i can  perceive, cymbals for instance crash and the decay for the cymbals last for as long as the cymbals can be perceived..imo pretty impressive. 

i really do think its your dap, a good amp, a good line out doc, would change your mind for sure.
Could be the DAP and lack of amping. Out of my setup anyway these certainly aren't 'reference'. I am a trained audio engineer and have worked in studios plenty with tens of thousands of dollars into getting a flat sound, and these certainly sound flat to me. Rolled off highs with a lower mids/bass hump. As i said, maybe just my setup.
Edited by matthewh133 - 10/16/13 at 1:33pm
post #4863 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post
 

if you attempt to ''bend'' the nozzle, SNAP is what it will do.....by no means is the nozzle of the westone w4/r weak like problems with the se535 and even the se535 wouldnt and couldnt bend into place.

 

the proguard earportz might help as they have a more ergonomic design. these are my w4r with the proguards  you can get the trial pack for 30.00 comes with small,medium,large and xtra large

 

but by no means will you even remotely be able to bend the nozzle into a comfort position.

 

also something to take into consideration is the se535 might not be for you either if you cant get the w4r to work, as the nozzle on the 535 are longer and pretty much the same degree in angle as the w4r....the w4r nozzle is shorter and thicker.

 

 

That is why my suggestion is for if he decides to reshell which means there is no risk... he was having problems with the angle of the nozzle, how do you know he won't be able to obtain better comfort by changing the angle? Don't BS unless you've tried bending it.

post #4864 of 5326

I don't think all that ^ was necessary.

post #4865 of 5326
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Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
 

 

That is why my suggestion is for if he decides to reshell which means there is no risk... he was having problems with the angle of the nozzle, how do you know he won't be able to obtain better comfort by changing the angle? Don't BS unless you've tried bending it.

Yes if he plans to reshell anyway.  Otherwise, you just know it's going to break the nozzle!

post #4866 of 5326
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Originally Posted by milford30 View Post
 

 

That is why my suggestion is for if he decides to reshell which means there is no risk... he was having problems with the angle of the nozzle, how do you know he won't be able to obtain better comfort by changing the angle? Don't BS unless you've tried bending it.

BS? rerally BS? you are right i havent attempted to bend the nozzle as there is no reason for me to break my iem's. these iem arent made out of pliable material that you can just mold and just to your liking....its hard plastic that has no intentions of being manipulated.

post #4867 of 5326

I received a call from Kaysen today, fisher received my 4r's on Monday with my impressions and today my new 4r ciem's are ready and were shipped out.  I should have them on Saturday.  Photos and impressions to follow.  The quick turnaround is almost unbelievable.


Edited by Poimandres - 10/17/13 at 4:38pm
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post

I received a call from Kaysen today, fisher received my 4r's on Monday with my impressions and today my new 4r ciem's are ready and were shipped out.  I should have them on Saturday.  Photos and impressions to follow.  The quick turnaround is almost unbelievable.

What was the total turn around? Did you have to pay any extra for faster turn around.

Also do you know if they offer recessed pin connectors
post #4869 of 5326

Yes I had mine recessed, expedited shipping, expedited build and the waerproof box.  134 US I believe total since I used paypal it was 3% on top of that.  But hopefully should be well worth it.

post #4870 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post
 

I received a call from Kaysen today, fisher received my 4r's on Monday with my impressions and today my new 4r ciem's are ready and were shipped out.  I should have them on Saturday.  Photos and impressions to follow.  The quick turnaround is almost unbelievable.

Very, very cool. Can't wait for the pics.

 

I'm still waiting for KumatateK's shop to start back up again, these W4s are begging for a reshell + (possible change into C435s or retuning with the DTECs intact).

Actually, I just looked at my old receipt, and in less than two months, it'll mark the day where I've owned these for exactly two years. It's been a funky ride. Plenty of good memories shared while these were being used. Some significant life events. So these will always hold a place in my heart. I just can't bear to have the shells thrown away, so I might request for them to be sent back along with the reshelled drivers.

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Total turn around was they received them on Monday and shipped them out 3 days after receiving them.  I think recessed sockets are 25 and expedited turn around was 10, the case was 10 and not sure on the expedited shipping 16.50 rings a bell though.

post #4872 of 5326

Opted for full clear highly polished.   I know John used to use Fisher for those of here in the US that had Heir fit issues if we so chose that route.  Here's to hoping the build quality is close to or as nice as the Wizards.

post #4873 of 5326
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Originally Posted by matthewh133 View Post

Could be the DAP and lack of amping. Out of my setup anyway these certainly aren't 'reference'. I am a trained audio engineer and have worked in studios plenty with tens of thousands of dollars into getting a flat sound, and these certainly sound flat to me. Rolled off highs with a lower mids/bass hump. As i said, maybe just my setup.
Use the silicon tips and you will get a more neutral sound.
post #4874 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post
 

Yes I had mine recessed, expedited shipping, expedited build and the waerproof box.  134 US I believe total since I used paypal it was 3% on top of that.  But hopefully should be well worth it.

that not bad, i like the recessed pins, IMO its a must....eager to hear if theres a difference from the original shells

post #4875 of 5326
I would be going by memory as I do not have another set of 4rs kicking around.
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