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post #4471 of 5284

And if that doesn't fit, cut off the stems of one of the stock tips and make it cover the comply core.

 

I'm curious, the material and the bore size is awfully similar to what the Star tips seem to have. Though I've never used a Star tip. If I kept the stock 3.Ai tips perhaps I could've tried it.

post #4472 of 5284
The bore of the Heir tips is slightly larger than the star tips.
post #4473 of 5284
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Originally Posted by pacman46 View Post

Do you take the inside out of a comply tip and glue it inside those heir tips ?? I'm not sure ??

Preferably use a set of silicon Westone tips you won't use, turn them inside out then cut the stem off placing it on the Westone 4 nozzle first. When you cut the stem off make sure you do so at a length that is flush or below the actual sound nozzle. If it's sitting over it may affect the sound.

Here's a guide.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/527694/westone-4-appreciation-thread-and-reviews-a-k-a-westone-4/3375#post_8794572
Edited by H20Fidelity - 8/23/13 at 6:47am
post #4474 of 5284

If it's only the outer rim, one must realize the fact that the core had been modded (two adapters lying on top of one another, mind you) would mean than any existing difference in size is made to be negligible. Unless the tip was placed a bit further outwards in relation to the core.

 

It's a good thing my local store now stocks Westones. I'll be sure to ask if they have any Star tips in as well.

post #4475 of 5284
The bore is quite a bit larger than a Star tip.

I found it opens the stage right up width ways and the sound is less compressed, it also for some reason brighten the tonality for me a touch, but this was already known when we were using these Heir tips on RDB+ v1 and 1Plus2. I can also use higher volumes without the sound becoming congested.

post #4476 of 5284

That's quite a ways bigger when you put them side by side :P

 

The bores look almost as large as UE stock tips. Which looks similar to the Grado tips (I'm just going off from visual first impressions). And you can see some similarities...

Of course we might have differently shaped canals so this becomes moot as they reform differently when you insert them inwards. Or I could be wrong about that. I'm wrong about a lot of things. Like the Mayans.

Actually if someone could measure the diameter of various bores on tips, categorize them into a spreadsheet describing the differences in sound....that'd be groovy as well. I'm not volunteering.

post #4477 of 5284
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

Preferably use a set of silicon Westone tips you won't use, turn them inside out then cut the stem off placing it on the Westone 4 nozzle first. When you cut the stem off make sure you do so at a length that is flush or below the actual sound nozzle. If it's sitting over it may affect the sound.

Here's a guide.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/527694/westone-4-appreciation-thread-and-reviews-a-k-a-westone-4/3375#post_8794572
Ok great thank you. Ill figure it out. And I have the 4ai and lots of tips I have that I don't use so perfect. Lol those heir tips are great. Very well made smily_headphones1.gif
post #4478 of 5284
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

That's quite a ways bigger when you put them side by side :P

The bores look almost as large as UE stock tips. Which looks similar to the Grado tips (I'm just going off from visual first impressions). And you can see some similarities...


Of course we might have differently shaped canals so this becomes moot as they reform differently when you insert them inwards. Or I could be wrong about that. I'm wrong about a lot of things. Like the Mayans.
Actually if someone could measure the diameter of various bores on tips, categorize them into a spreadsheet describing the differences in sound....that'd be groovy as well. I'm not volunteering.
I'm not very good at reading the graph charts. Not bad but not great. But correct me if I'm wrong. Wow the w4r really has a huge mid bass hump huh.?? That's maybe why there is a veil in the mids. They are and seem recessed a bit. By me upgrading the cable will that help with all that ??
post #4479 of 5284
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


Preferably use a set of silicon Westone tips you won't use, turn them inside out then cut the stem off placing it on the Westone 4 nozzle first. When you cut the stem off make sure you do so at a length that is flush or below the actual sound nozzle. If it's sitting over it may affect the sound.

Here's a guide.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/527694/westone-4-appreciation-thread-and-reviews-a-k-a-westone-4/3375#post_8794572

What do you mean, or intent by if it sitting over it? 

 

thx

 

Edit:  Ok fine. I have just seen picts on your link above.

 

thx


Edited by Skullbox - 8/23/13 at 10:18am
post #4480 of 5284
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

The bore is quite a bit larger than a Star tip.

I found it opens the stage right up width ways and the sound is less compressed, it also for some reason brighten the tonality for me a touch, but this was already known when we were using these Heir tips on RDB+ v1 and 1Plus2. I can also use higher volumes without the sound becoming congested.

 

this is exactly what i found, the star tips bore is too small, i feel the silicone star tips collapse the soundstage and muffle the mids and highs. i was so dissapointed when i got my star tips, i love the look, but as far as sound quality is concerned i wouldnt even bother with them. not to mention the longer tips have a simular design to the comply however arent as pliable which feels uncomfortable and sort of odd IMO.

 

i am with you on any tip that has a larger bore. they completely compliment the westone 4, any tip with a smaller bore will totally ruin the tonality of them,.

post #4481 of 5284
Is there a tip we can just buy witch will fit the w4r And have that larger bore?? Is there really something that is out there ?? I would love to know. I don't like the sound from the star tips either. I use the shure silicon tips. The medium ones and find the sound not too bad I guess. Could be better. I also like the Complys ,, the short ones that use to come with all the Westone products. I think they like the shorter tips. Maybe I'm wrong but the short complys work well for me.
post #4482 of 5284

im still rockin the proguard earportz i havent strayed to anything else,  the earportz have a tappered bore as they go from the nozzle smaller to the tip larger. they have a deeper insertion into the ear which give excellent isolation, bass is excellent, mids and highs are crisp and clear, the silicone is extremely soft. think of the tip as a megaphone going from smaller to larger is going to enhance the sound so you can listen at lower volumes and still maintain crisp clear clarity in the mids and highs, with the seal and isolation for the lows. you dont have to take my word for it (hhahahahaah reading rainbow)

 

aside from that the next best tip i reccomend would be the clear silicone westone tip the older models came with, these are are frosted in color, SHURE makes sells the same ones which are the e2c tips, the flange of the tip is also tappered not like the earports but it is a tappered opening and this allows for better mids and highs.

post #4483 of 5284
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Originally Posted by pacman46 View Post

Is there a tip we can just buy witch will fit the w4r And have that larger bore?? Is there really something that is out there ?? I would love to know. I don't like the sound from the star tips either. I use the shure silicon tips. The medium ones and find the sound not too bad I guess. Could be better. I also like the Complys ,, the short ones that use to come with all the Westone products. I think they like the shorter tips. Maybe I'm wrong but the short complys work well for me.


Earportz silicone tips, have you already hear about this strange tips? Have'nt thried yet! Have you?

 

U mention that you like the Shure silicone tips!?  From memory, these sili tips have a smal opening bore. Any tip that has a larger bore will delevery more... IMO

 

Am using now Sony (hybrid-mod) tips. Bores are wider than any Shure tips! Wider the better, no???

 

;-)

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i have been using the earportz silicone tips. im also talking about the e2c silicone clear tip. not the yellow foam.

 

ive used a bit of foam tips and none of them i found to my liking,  yes some are very comfortable, but they effect the sound too much, for instance the comply are great with bass, but not with the mids and highs, they are have tendency to veil the mids and highs, comfortable yes, but play too much with the sound imo

post #4485 of 5284
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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post

i have been using the earportz silicone tips. im also talking about the e2c silicone clear tip. not the yellow foam.

 

ive used a bit of foam tips and none of them i found to my liking,  yes some are very comfortable, but they effect the sound too much, for instance the comply are great with bass, but not with the mids and highs, they are have tendency to veil the mids and highs, comfortable yes, but play too much with the sound imo


Agree!

 

I have been using  the E2c sil tips either, but not the clear (vinyle) one, and the only foam I like, I can tolerate is the yellow foam and the "Olive"

 

My next move willbe earportz! ...  why W4 is so tips dependant !  :/

 

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