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Originally Posted by Skullbox View Post
 

lets play nice here. that cable is actually made of pure unicorn main stranded wire. sounds the best

post #4202 of 5325
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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post

lets play nice here. that cable is actually made of pure unicorn main stranded wire. sounds the best

Do you mean the Alpha Unicorn - The most aggressive of a herd of Unicorns, so he would be the main Unicorn? Or are you talking about the hair at the top of the neck? The Mane?biggrin.gif

post #4203 of 5325
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Do you mean the Alpha Unicorn - The most aggressive of a herd of Unicorns, so he would be the main Unicorn? Or are you talking about the hair at the top of the neck? The Mane?biggrin.gif

OH NO! i mean the MAIN! UNICORN the one that always alludes very hard to see becuase he also has invisibility shield and a cloaking capability. you dont know what you have to go through to get these strands of hair. special unicorn ops are almost always called!

 

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No but in all seriousness the cable sounds excellent. personally i believe in cable upgrades and upgrades in sound signatures

 

what im hearing is wider soundstage, excellent clarity, dynamic sounding bass, clear mids,crystal clear highs.......now take that into consideration with the rest of my setup. but i feel it was a great upgrade.....imo


Edited by Mooses9 - 6/26/13 at 11:40am
post #4204 of 5325

Just purchased the 4R...again. I was getting along with the SE535 until I listened to some string quartets...so disappointed. Anyways, what are you all amping with? What's your favorite combo?

post #4205 of 5325
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Just purchased the 4R...again. I was getting along with the SE535 until I listened to some string quartets...so disappointed. Anyways, what are you all amping with? What's your favorite combo?

This may be less than you expected, but mine get a little deeper and wider with some help from my JDS cMoy. For less than $75, can't be beat!

 

In other news, an album that the 4s tore up (in a good way) this afternoon is Pocket Full of Kryptonite by Spin Doctors. Can I get an Amen for Two Princes and/or Little Miss Can't Be Wrong?!

post #4206 of 5325
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Just purchased the 4R...again. I was getting along with the SE535 until I listened to some string quartets...so disappointed. Anyways, what are you all amping with? What's your favorite combo?
Haha a decent DAP like Cowon J3 with silver dragon cable and some EQ-ing already sounds fantastic to me! smily_headphones1.gif
post #4207 of 5325

Amping/Dac for me With the W4r:

 

ALO Audio RX MK2

Algorhythm SOLO

ALO Audio SXC SOLO cable Combo

 

 

this setup is phenomenal with the W4R, costly BUT Phenonenal

post #4208 of 5325
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Originally Posted by Sinth View Post

Just want to chip in here with my best enhancement to the W4 I could find. I have tried the Earportz, ordered large due to normally using a large tip and I couldn`t get them in. So with that in mind you must order a size down to have a chance. I cannot comment on the sound they produce for the reason above.

 

My best solution is in my sig (adapter link). I thought the small output bore of the grey silicones was the best but once I switched to the wide open bore of the tsx400 then I realised this was where the best sound was. Super crystal clear detail, good seal and punchy enough.

 

Use the following track to test tips for the W4:

Fleetwood Mac - Never Going Back Again

 

The acoustic guitar sounds bang on with the mod compared to the small output tips.

Use Earportz? Again, try it out and see what you think.

 

There may be people that have never heard the Rumours album and if you haven`t, you should. Top drawer.

Stu

 

I tried this, and I really like it.  Had some 400's I was using with my RE400's, and they work great.  Thanks for the tip (so to speak!).

post #4209 of 5325
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Just purchased the 4R...again. I was getting along with the SE535 until I listened to some string quartets...so disappointed. Anyways, what are you all amping with? What's your favorite combo?


Would you recommend the 4r for rock and metal in particular?  Really on the fence here between this the heir ai models, 1964 ears universal and a couple of others!

 

Isolation would be important.  It doesn't help that the w4r is the easiest to get either.


Cheers

 

(if you picture a dog chasing it's tail that's me atm!).


Cheers

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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post


Would you recommend the 4r for rock and metal in particular?  Really on the fence here between this the heir ai models, 1964 ears universal and a couple of others!

Isolation would be important.  It doesn't help that the w4r is the easiest to get either.


Cheers

(if you picture a dog chasing it's tail that's me atm!).


Cheers
The 4r does rock pretty well. But that's more to classic rock. For speed metal or fast paced tracks I find that the 4r is slightly hindered on the clarity side due to the mid bass hump. The 4r portrays rock well by having luscious mids paired with smooth vocals right in front of the instruments. However I do find that the 4r does better with male vocals. Shredding of guitars can be heard with cymbals snares well positioned at the back. Bass is tight and punchy with slight decay and moves slightly behind with speed metal due to its decay. It simplys portrays rock and metal in a rather laid back and slightly conservative manner which is a pleasure to listen but nothing stands out or make the music comes "alive".

The Heir 4ai, I would say does better in rock and metal than the 4r. The clarity of the instruments, separation and speed is all able to keep up with the music. From my perspective, instruments such as strings, cymbals, pianos are generally placed on the left channel. Drums and bass in the center with vocals hovering in front of the instruments. The 4ai handles both male and female vocals better. However, I do find that the cymbals snares are rather unnatural and sounds synthetic. Bass wise, it is very fast hitting with little to no decay and extends pretty deep, tight and punchy. However, it does not rumble your ears. The bass is not apparent in all tracks but only present when it is present in the tracks itself. The overall clarity with the well extended treble and highs makes the music pretty much "alive" and not as conservative as 4r.

Well, both have their strengths and weaknesses in the rock and metal genre. I've always been a fan of the 4r and I can say it is a jack of all trades but nothing really simply stands out. it's really a joy to listen on the 4r for long hours. it is just so musical! But the 4ai is rather enticing and more exciting to listen to compared to the 4r. To me, I feel that the 4ai does slightly better than the 4r in most genres except classical. it's down to a balanced, warm sound signature versus bright, cool sound signature.

Having said that, maybe both ain't suitable for your rock, metal music too? Best to audition both out. smily_headphones1.gif To me, I actually still preferred the TF10 with lune cable upgrade for rock. smily_headphones1.gif Simply dominates with the superb treble extension and energy! smily_headphones1.gif
post #4211 of 5325
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Originally Posted by xaddictionx View Post


The 4r does rock pretty well. But that's more to classic rock. For speed metal or fast paced tracks I find that the 4r is slightly hindered on the clarity side due to the mid bass hump. The 4r portrays rock well by having luscious mids paired with smooth vocals right in front of the instruments. However I do find that the 4r does better with male vocals. Shredding of guitars can be heard with cymbals snares well positioned at the back. Bass is tight and punchy with slight decay and moves slightly behind with speed metal due to its decay. It simplys portrays rock and metal in a rather laid back and slightly conservative manner which is a pleasure to listen but nothing stands out or make the music comes "alive".

The Heir 4ai, I would say does better in rock and metal than the 4r. The clarity of the instruments, separation and speed is all able to keep up with the music. From my perspective, instruments such as strings, cymbals, pianos are generally placed on the left channel. Drums and bass in the center with vocals hovering in front of the instruments. The 4ai handles both male and female vocals better. However, I do find that the cymbals snares are rather unnatural and sounds synthetic. Bass wise, it is very fast hitting with little to no decay and extends pretty deep, tight and punchy. However, it does not rumble your ears. The bass is not apparent in all tracks but only present when it is present in the tracks itself. The overall clarity with the well extended treble and highs makes the music pretty much "alive" and not as conservative as 4r.

Well, both have their strengths and weaknesses in the rock and metal genre. I've always been a fan of the 4r and I can say it is a jack of all trades but nothing really simply stands out. it's really a joy to listen on the 4r for long hours. it is just so musical! But the 4ai is rather enticing and more exciting to listen to compared to the 4r. To me, I feel that the 4ai does slightly better than the 4r in most genres except classical. it's down to a balanced, warm sound signature versus bright, cool sound signature.

Having said that, maybe both ain't suitable for your rock, metal music too? Best to audition both out. smily_headphones1.gif To me, I actually still preferred the TF10 with lune cable upgrade for rock. smily_headphones1.gif Simply dominates with the superb treble extension and energy! smily_headphones1.gif


That's the problem, both are impossible to audition hence the hesitation to order.  I've been tempted by both the heir and the w4r's for a while now but at around £3-400 just can't bring myself to do it.   Both seem to have positives and negatives.  I'm now leaning towards something else entirely but just wanted to check first!

 

Thanks it's given me something to think about. 

post #4212 of 5325
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Originally Posted by Mooses9 View Post

Amping/Dac for me With the W4r:

 

ALO Audio RX MK2

Algorhythm SOLO

ALO Audio SXC SOLO cable Combo

 

 

this setup is phenomenal with the W4R, costly BUT Phenonenal


What do you think about RSA P-51 Mustang amp with my W4r?  It will perform in good harmony,  or synergy?! Do Someone hear about P-51 amp around here?

 

Yes... "Never go back again" pull my top drawer full open! :P

 

Pete

post #4213 of 5325
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post


That's the problem, both are impossible to audition hence the hesitation to order.  I've been tempted by both the heir and the w4r's for a while now but at around £3-400 just can't bring myself to do it.   Both seem to have positives and negatives.  I'm now leaning towards something else entirely but just wanted to check first!

Thanks it's given me something to think about. 
Yea. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm still trying to get the best out of both too. Don't know if the shure 535ltd will do the trick. Which other IEMs are you thinking of? Mind to share? smily_headphones1.gif
post #4214 of 5325
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Originally Posted by xaddictionx View Post


Yea. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm still trying to get the best out of both too. Don't know if the shure 535ltd will do the trick. Which other IEMs are you thinking of? Mind to share? smily_headphones1.gif


A real scattergun really.  I know that the westone 4's would probably be the safest bet and all but after owning the westone 2 and 3's I feel like a change.  I've discounted the 535's purely on the fact that I did not get on with the physical body of the 215.  Hated the cable and hated the stupid swivel connectors, for that reason discounting the ue900's as well.  So looking at Stagediver 3 (too bassy from the sound of it, but fantastic build quality), Heir 4ai (possibility, but maybe too treble happy so unsure) Heir 5.0 (bassier than the 4's but not as much as the 3's but not as good value as the w4's), 1964 ears V3 Universal (sounds a goer, but with the likely hood of import tax on top bit more than I'd like to pay!)and so on.  Isolation is important so I was wondering how the heir's match the westone's for those at least?


Cheers

post #4215 of 5325
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post


A real scattergun really.  I know that the westone 4's would probably be the safest bet and all but after owning the westone 2 and 3's I feel like a change.  I've discounted the 535's purely on the fact that I did not get on with the physical body of the 215.  Hated the cable and hated the stupid swivel connectors, for that reason discounting the ue900's as well.  So looking at Stagediver 3 (too bassy from the sound of it, but fantastic build quality), Heir 4ai (possibility, but maybe too treble happy so unsure) Heir 5.0 (bassier than the 4's but not as much as the 3's but not as good value as the w4's), 1964 ears V3 Universal (sounds a goer, but with the likely hood of import tax on top bit more than I'd like to pay!)and so on.  Isolation is important so I was wondering how the heir's match the westone's for those at least?


Cheers

 

exactly. that whole mmx connection completely turned me off from shure. if its not its im not messing with it. its a cool concept but i think its too fragile,gets dirty fast then causes intermediate shorting...just a real pain

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