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post #3856 of 5326
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Originally Posted by meiaen View Post


yes i can hear hiss but i compenstate using tweak and app but right now im still waiting for my Rooco BA hoping it would have a better synergy with my W4R

 

I have a Rocoo P and note 1, I find that the note 1 is definitely better than Rocoo with poweramp, Rocoo just make it sound too dark for my tastes.

post #3857 of 5326
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Originally Posted by milford30 View Post

I have a Rocoo P and note 1, I find that the note 1 is definitely better than Rocoo with poweramp, Rocoo just make it sound too dark for my tastes.
Thats rooco p it wasnt meant for iem while the BA is for balance amatuer fitting for the westone .. I think
post #3858 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Schiso View Post

Hi, i am now decided to get the W4R, just wanna ask if Sansa Clip+ enough to justify Westone 4R? I currenty have iphone 5, but im not sure if it will sound better. I only have a budget of less than 100$ since I will get w4r at the same time. Thanks.
I have an iPhone 4s and a Sansa clip + and both work very well. So well I feel no need to mess with my amp or to even bother getting it out. Buy and enjoy!
post #3859 of 5326
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Originally Posted by milford30 View Post

I have a Rocoo P and note 1, I find that the note 1 is definitely better than Rocoo with poweramp, Rocoo just make it sound too dark for my tastes.
That rooco p wasnt meant for iem while the BA is for balance amateur fitting for the westone .. I think
Edited by meiaen - 2/16/13 at 4:04pm
post #3860 of 5326
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Sansa Clip will do fine. I have a Clip Zip and the sound isn't bad at all.

Do i need to buy it? Or iphone 5 is fine? 

post #3861 of 5326
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Originally Posted by meiaen View Post



That rooco p wasnt meant for iem while the BA is for balance amateur fitting for the westone .. I think

From the reviews i've read, the BA sounds just like the P version with less power to reduce the hiss, personally i don't find P hissy with my W4, can't tell when music's playing anyway.

 

Here's a Hisoundaudio's response when someone asked the difference between BA and P

 

"HI,Andee , Thank you for your question The out put power of Studio is 80 MW, ROCOO BA is 50 mw. We think 50 mw is adequate for almost all mini earphones. expecially for high sensitive earphones"

 

So i doubt they redesigned it especially for BA, although the impedence difference may change the sound.


Edited by milford30 - 2/17/13 at 12:14pm
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I'm very grateful with my purchase of the Westone 4R. Though it is expensive, it is worth it. I love the bass, it is not overpowered nor underpowered but just enough to my taste. the mids are awesome but the soundstage is the drawback. I love it with every genre im listening to. Also, my only problem is sometimes I get nauseous, maybe the feeling of my ears filled does that. And I get also the feeling of my ears filled even though im not wearing it. But overall, super happy with it! :)

 

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I just got the Etymotic ER-4PT last Friday and I love them quite a bit. I got the ER-4P -> 4S adapter coming this Friday and I wanted to give them a try with my high end audio system. Right now, I'm listening to 320 Kbps MP3s though I do have a backup of my FLAC files in my CrashPlan+ private cloud. I have a HD Tracks account and I purchased 9 high resolution 24 bit 88.2, 96, 176.4, and 192 kHz stereo albums.

 

I am giving serious thought to getting a new pair of Westone 4R IEMs. I understand that these 4R IEMs are what Etymotic should have done with the ER-4S if they decided to produce an upgrade. I am concerned primarily with accuracy, neutrality, transparency, and clarity along with resolution. I am also quite concerned about passive sound isolation. Let's just say that price is no object with what I invested in my audio and video equipment in the past.

 

My understanding is that the 4R are more vivid and they are the closest thing to custom IEMs. I have the Ultimate Ears Ue-18 Pro custom IEMs which I got for free.

 

I am also thinking about getting the Sennheiser HD-800 headphones with the Cardas Clear 10' headphone replacement cable. I was wondering if I should bother with the Westone 4R at all.

 

I listen to Spotify and I have a Premium monthly subscription so I get the 320 Kbps stream. I download MP3s from the Internet after I purchase them from various online music stores. I also purchase high resolution albums from HD Tracks or Chesky and others as well. I have a Murphie account to buy and sell loss less albums at discounted prices.

 

I will be honest and truthful with the community at large. I have a thing for IEMs whether they be custom or universals. I like the passive sound isolation feature. It helps me to enjoy the music at the same listening volume with greater satisfaction.

 

I have looked and done my research and I'm more prone to get a IEM from a pretty major established brand like Etymotic, Ultimate Ears, or Westone. I don't want to collect more than 3 different brands and models of IEMs. I think that is too much and I would rather get full sized open headphones. I don't have one right now.

 

I really like the Etymotic ER-4PT/S. It works well for me. I don't mind the deficiency in bass power. I find the Ue-18 Pro to be well balanced, but the bass power is a bit too much for my ears. It feels like I am listening to a subwoofer in my ears. I rarely use the Ue-18 Pro except when I have to sing in a choir at church for rehearsals or live performances for Sunday services at church. I listen to my ER-4PT/S most of the time.

 

I can afford to get the Westone 4R directly from Westone's website by the end of this week. To be quite honest and truthful with you, I can get them this Thursday if I really wanted them.

 

But, I don't know?! I've been doing a lot of research into the Westone 4R and I like what I am reading from professional audio critics and owners alike. Very few people dislike them. The same is true for the ER-4PT/S.

 

I have two System76 Lemur Ultra Thin and Leopard Extreme notebook and desktop PCs. I use Clementine development trunk and Spotify is my primary software music management player. I listen to music almost all of the time. I am usually listening to music at least 8 - 9 hours per day every single day.

 

I also watch DVD-Videos and Blu-Rays. I have 553 DVD-Videos and about 12 Blu-Rays. I have 1908 CD albums totaling 14,606 songs in 320 Kbps MP3 using Fraunhofer or LAME 3.9.9 --preset-insane. I have a backup of my FLAC music library in my CrashPlan+ private cloud. I have 12 terabytes of USB 3.0 external storage capacity.

 

I use Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit GNU/Linux and it is hardened to DoD specifications which are not available to the general public. I am an information assurance professional and manager.

 

I have invested well over $10,000 in my audio system. I listen to music at home in my listening room and I use my System76 Leopard Extreme for media consumption and transcoding, ripping, and encoding along with compression jobs.

 

I gave you a lot of information. I already have a high end custom IEM. I have a high end universal IEM. I'm pretty happy now. I'm giving serious consideration toward getting the Westone 4R. I just don't know if it is going to be a worthy addition or if I will wind up selling it down the road for something else or better.

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The only area ER4S beats the W4 is razor sharp clarity and brightness in the treble but many would still prefer the W4 treble because it it isn't as fatiguing and more realistic sounding.

 

With the 4 drivers the W4 will provide a much more holographic and expansive presentation, period.  This makes the soundstage much larger and more like a headphone sound where with ER4 you know you are listening to an IEM.  I also find the W4 midrange more luscious, less cold/analytical where vocals are just sensational.  The W4 bass is also more textured and weighted without ever overdoing it.  I honestly don't think the two IEM's are even in the same class.  Granted the W4 is warmer but very easy to get acclimated to.  I, myself, found it a little veiled but after a week or two I honestly now find it about perfect.

 

FYI...going 1 driver for 1 driver, I found the Grado GR10 to be what I would expect an updraded ER4 to sound like where I think the 4-driver W4 is really on a whole different level.

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I honestly love the W4 even though I don't currently own it. I swapped it out last May and have considered getting it back a number of times - even with a set of customs on the way. Classical/opera/instrumental/choral music was fantastic as well as across the board for rock, pop, jazz, etc. I currently have the PFE 232 and honestly, love both but there's just something about the signature of the W4 that makes it amazing an unique and a really great iem. I haven't heard the ER4S so I can't make any comparisons. I sing and am very picky about sound and the W4 is great but again - what works for me (anyone) may not be for you.
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

The only area ER4S beats the W4 is razor sharp clarity and painful brightness in the treble but many would still prefer the W4 treble because it it isn't as fatiguing and more realistic sounding.

 

 

Fixed it for you. tongue.gif

post #3867 of 5326
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Originally Posted by vocalist View Post

I honestly love the W4 even though I don't currently own it. I swapped it out last May and have considered getting it back a number of times - even with a set of customs on the way. Classical/opera/instrumental/choral music was fantastic as well as across the board for rock, pop, jazz, etc. I currently have the PFE 232 and honestly, love both but there's just something about the signature of the W4 that makes it amazing an unique and a really great iem. I haven't heard the ER4S so I can't make any comparisons. I sing and am very picky about sound and the W4 is great but again - what works for me (anyone) may not be for you.

 

 

Just curious, vocalist, about what you better in the 232 and vice versa when comparing it against the W4. I agree, there is something special about the W4.

post #3868 of 5326
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Fixed it for you. tongue.gif

Thanks, forgot that adjective.  Especially when cranking the volume.

 

Actually, if Ety added 3 more drivers to the ER4, it would probably sound a lot like the UE900 moreso than W4.  When it comes to BA's driver count DOES matter.  Maybe not as much beyond 3 but from 1 to 3 or 4 is a HUGE difference.

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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

Thanks, forgot that adjective.  Especially when cranking the volume.

 

Actually, if Ety added 3 more drivers to the ER4, it would probably sound a lot like the UE900 moreso than W4.  When it comes to BA's driver count DOES matter.  Maybe not as much beyond 3 but from 1 to 3 or 4 is a HUGE difference.

LoL exactly!

 

I haven't heard the UE900s yet, but I did recently pick up the UE9000s and I really like 'em! 

post #3870 of 5326
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

 

 

Just curious, vocalist, about what you better in the 232 and vice versa when comparing it against the W4. I agree, there is something special about the W4.

I think there's something about the ability to change the filters on the 232 - the fact that you're able to tweak the sound to your preferences.  I feel like the 232 has a very open soundstage and instruments sound very true - especially strings.  When I listen to opera I feel like I'm actually sitting in the auditorium watching it happen on stage as opposed to feeling like someone is singing in my head or directly in front of me and I can place all of the instruments without it feeling like what I'm listening to is overly detailed or pulled apart.  I wish I could say more about the W4 but it's been almost 9 months since I last heard it.  The W4 did fit my ears perfectly, however, and I truly loved that I could put them in and forget about them - even fall asleep listening to music.  I haven't done that with any iem since.  I really wish I could listen to them somewhere or even borrow them.  The only thing I notice about the 232 that I never noticed about the W4 is a little bit of fatigue.  

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