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post #3556 of 5325

Anyone else in Australia want to try those magic tips? (you will need to cannibalise one of your own to get the core)

Offer valid till Sunday night and I will be posting them on Monday morning, limited numbers, first come first serve

post #3557 of 5325
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Originally Posted by AnimalChin View Post

I am thinking about getting a pair of these or similarly priced IEMs. I am wondering if anybody has any experience with using them with a Samsung Galaxy Player 4.2. I am not sure if the DAC in the Galaxy is good enough for these phones and I don't want to be super disappointed if I do get them. Thanks.

 


Looking at this thread it looks like the DAC is decent.

I have the Asian/Korean SIII and it sounds pretty good with Poweramp. (Don't use the built in player! Buy Poweramp!)

The W4R is pretty easy to drive on about anything... you might even be able to plug it into one of those science fair lemon displays and get enough juice to get a sound out of it. (Not that I've tried that.) So with the wolfson wm8994 chip it should make your W4rs sound, at the very least, ok.

 

If you want to be more audiophilic, get the less user-friendly but better-sounding Rocoo BA.

post #3558 of 5325

My Fiio E6 finally arrived and gave  five days of listening my westone 4 with the amp. My impression...the amp made it sounds muddy? even with the EQ2. I'm thinking I might have been baptized by the natural and flat sounding of the westone...

 

By the way, I found the correct way of using the shure olives :) Feel much comfortable after I pressed the tip of the foam before inserting it to my ears. 

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Finally got my Westone 4 today. It was quite interesting, our local dealer here let me compare them extensively with the UM3X before letting me decide which one to buy, so this was really great before deciding to spend the money. I found the Westone 4 an easy choice in the end, but the dealer again preferred the UM3X by quite a bit and he was a touch disappointed by the W4. It was the first time that he listened to the W4s as most of their customers are musicians, so they mostly sell the UM range and custom series.

 

I can see how stage musicians would prefer the UM3X. Its got more bass and presence and the mid-range is very good and great separation. The UM3X makes you feel like you are right on the stage. The UM3X has a unique set of strengths that I haven't seen in many other IEMs that I have owned. I would have been very happy to own this IEM if I still listened mainly to rock and guitar based music.

 

The Westone 4 in comparison has a much flatter response, we measured both IEMs on a spectrum analyser, and it was quite a difference between the two IEMs. There is quite a few dBs boost in the UM3X at the mid-bass level which continues well into the midrange.

 

Things I really liked about the W4 was the detailed presentation and balanced sound. Then there is the excellent bass quality and warmth in the sound. I really love string instruments on the W4 and its easy to pick out nuances in the way instruments are being played. On Grieg's Peer Gynt suite "In the Hall of the Mountain King" it was easy to pick out the different violins right at the end which was very impressive considering how busy the music gets. As you can guess I really liked the W4s with classical music. Vocals are crystal clear, almost like they have their own dedicated driver in the mix. Bass guitars were also impressively detailed. I can see how some people would find the W4s dull in comparison, but I really liked the balanced presentation. Sibilance is also totally absent and I found both IEMs very fatigue free. The W4 is very dependent on a good quality source. Today I realised how bad my Samsung Galaxy S2 sounds and the obvious difference between FLAC files and 256kbps MP3s. I might have to spend a bit of money upgrading my source material.

 

Playing around with the different tips, the foams are definitely the most comfortable. The olives also sound decent, but then you have to be careful with the positioning of the tips in your ear canals. Personally I find the W4s sound best with the triple flanges.


Edited by daerron - 11/16/12 at 12:04pm
post #3560 of 5325

Great write up!

 

I think if you pulled 10 people off the street 6 or 7 would prefer UM3X simply because it has more bass and slams harder.

 

But I also think W4 really has sufficient bass.  Really glad Westone was aware of this.  Anything less would surely have dissuaded a lot of people.  For me W4 is the borderline IEM where if you have to have more bass, you have crossed over the line where you must be considered a basshead.L3000.gif

post #3561 of 5325

JH13, JH16, W4.

 

Owned all and I quite possibly may take W4 as top pick.  Another poster mentioned something similar a few weeks back and I agree.

 

JH13:  Has more speed but the treble is almost too detailed (un-natural).  The low bass boost seems distracting.  Missing mid-bass.

JH16:  Amazing in every regard for short listening periods but it is a full-bodied IEM on steriods and is like a workout just listening to them. Fatiguing over long listening sessions.

W4:  Could listen all day long.  More than enough detail across all frequencies, smooth, large soundstage.  Once those new Westone "star" silicone tips become available your IEM search could very well end right here.   Have no clue where Westone goes from here at this level.


Edited by Spyro - 11/17/12 at 3:13pm
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^ hey really thanks for that Spyro. Personally this is the only headphone that I own that I have no kind of "upgrade-itus" with yet. I mean I have one other pair of "fun" sounding iems I use also but these are the bee's kees (and his legs) to me.

It is good to hear people's thoughts like that confirming that these are in fact a top tier HP.
post #3563 of 5325

Well, yea...when we hear about reference level and balanced and neutral type IEM's... for my tastes, the bass is never enough for me.  Like I say, Westone knows people like bass so with W4 they were sure to "engineer" enough in to satisfy most without overdoing it.  Yes I like their products but Westone really has their sh** together and understands what people want.  When those new "star" silicone tips come out (which they have a patent on) they are the undisputed leader in this market.  Their line-up of products satisfies literally every possible listening taste in mankind.  That's a great philosophy rather than just making what the engineers deem as good sounding IEM's.   I still think UM2 (while a bit pricey) is one of the most underated IEM's on the planet.  Everyone should own it at least once. bigsmile_face.gif.   Definitely one of my favorites and actually preferred over the triple driver Shure SE530 back in the day.


Edited by Spyro - 11/17/12 at 4:41pm
post #3564 of 5325
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

JH13, JH16, W4.

 

Owned all and I quite possibly may take W4 as top pick.  Another poster mentioned something similar a few weeks back and I agree.

 

JH13:  Has more speed but the treble is almost too detailed (un-natural).  The low bass boost seems distracting.  Missing mid-bass.

JH16:  Amazing in every regard for short listening periods but it is a full-bodied IEM on steriods and is like a workout just listening to them. Fatiguing over long listening sessions.

W4:  Could listen all day long.  More than enough detail across all frequencies, smooth, large soundstage.  Once those new Westone "star" silicone tips become available your IEM search could very well end right here.   Have no clue where Westone goes from here at this level.

Spyro,

 

May I know how does this tip looks like ?

 

I was amazed and couldn't believe it that you chose W4 over JH16 (4 BA vs. 8 BA) ! I haven't listened to any custom IEM before but looking at the price and the number of BA itself, how could that be possible Universal IEM beat custom IEM with doubled BA.

 

Therefore I guess the rating for IEM is of course.... relatively depends on each of the respective ears taste.

post #3565 of 5325
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Originally Posted by JohnSantana View Post

Spyro,

 

May I know how does this tip looks like ?

 

I was amazed and couldn't believe it that you chose W4 over JH16 (4 BA vs. 8 BA) ! I haven't listened to any custom IEM before but looking at the price and the number of BA itself, how could that be possible Universal IEM beat custom IEM with doubled BA.

 

Therefore I guess the rating for IEM is of course.... relatively depends on each of the respective ears taste.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/636138/will-this-be-called-the-westone-epic-tip

 

I think once you get past 3-4 drivers the rest is marketing hype.  Just to clarify, I tend to listen on the loud side and that makes JH16 fatiguing.  For those listening at lower levels JH16 would be fine.  JH16 is great but I can listen to W4 and not miss much from JH16.

post #3566 of 5325
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/636138/will-this-be-called-the-westone-epic-tip

 

I think once you get past 3-4 drivers the rest is marketing hype.  Just to clarify, I tend to listen on the loud side and that makes JH16 fatiguing.  For those listening at lower levels JH16 would be fine.  JH16 is great but I can listen to W4 and not miss much from JH16.

 

Are the new tips really that good? How much will they be on sale for? Looks really...attractive looking, lol.

post #3567 of 5325
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/636138/will-this-be-called-the-westone-epic-tip

 

I think once you get past 3-4 drivers the rest is marketing hype.  Just to clarify, I tend to listen on the loud side and that makes JH16 fatiguing.  For those listening at lower levels JH16 would be fine.  JH16 is great but I can listen to W4 and not miss much from JH16.

Yes you are right, with Westone W4, I was lying on my bed at night listening to instrumental acoustic music and then I woke up the next morning, surprisingly my ears is not feeling any pain at all, you are correct it is not fatiguing as my Ultimate Ears UE700 with bright and sparkly treble.

post #3568 of 5325

I really appreciate that W4 comes with a very deep bass. I listened to SM3 and Shure535, they both lack of the very deep bass. I love W4 with orchestras, with rock, with pop, generally with every genre. I've used dx100 as my source, great soundstage, great seperation of instrument, everything just sounded great. Sibilant is almost non-existence. but somehow I still love SM3 for the vocal. I think they both are very good IEM. too bad SM3 doesn't reach as deep as W4 does, and sometimes sibilant occured...

post #3569 of 5325
I owned UM3X then JH13 and then W4.
 
Although JH13 is sure technicaly better and it is sure more neutral and it is sure probably better choice for home listening in a adult desktop system too but I would choose Westone over them too as spyro because the pure enjoyment is better for me. I really like the lively sound of Westone, you feel rightness from every tones instruments vocals. More I listened them then more I liked them, simply said..

Edited by knopi - 11/19/12 at 1:15am
post #3570 of 5325

Just ordered my W4s from earphone solutions with 25% discount, I will be comparing them to UM3X, SM3 V2, GR10, EPH-100 and Monster Coppers. So far I really like GR10 and eph-100 because of their midrange clarity.

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