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I shipped mine back yesterday. I really tried to like them, used for 10 hours. The fit, finish, looks, isolation, microphonics, quality, all very good.

The sound was not my cup of tea. Could it be the recordings? They are mostly Rock/Blues on a iPod the majority MP3 128 kbps recordings.

 

I came from many years of listening with Shure SE 530s and then in the last year Se 535s. I like the Shure's. My wife is using them now and she really likes them too.

 

So,my quest continues. Today I have FT!334s coming. I hope they are the answer and if not.....they will be in the classifieds.


Edited by Saraguie - 8/29/12 at 11:12am
post #3122 of 5326

Was looking for ~$200 dollar IEM, but nearly everything I auditioned seemed to mess up my classical music. Then tried these at a store just for the hell of it.

 

Guess I'll have to save up now.

post #3123 of 5326
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Originally Posted by zloy loup View Post

Was looking for ~$200 dollar IEM, but nearly everything I auditioned seemed to mess up my classical music. Then tried these at a store just for the hell of it.

 

Guess I'll have to save up now.

That's how I feel about iems and classical music, too. The W4, though not perfect to my ears, is the only that comes close to over ears for classical music. 

post #3124 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

I shipped mine back yesterday. I really tried to like them, used for 10 hours. The fit, finish, looks, isolation, microphonics, quality, all very good.
The sound was not my cup of tea. Could it be the recordings? They are mostly Rock/Blues on a iPod with mostly MP3 128 kbps recordings.

I came from many years of listening with Shure SE 530s and then in the last year Se 535s. I like the Shure's. My wife is using them now and she really likes them too.

So,my quest continues. Today I have FT!334s coming. I hope they are the answer and if not.....they will be in the classifieds.

If that's the case, then you better open a classified right now. 128kbps mp3s are like putting 87 octane in your Bugatti veyron. I suggest you upgrade your quality to 256 Kbps at the very least to get your money's worth out of these iems.
post #3125 of 5326

I gave the Westone 4R's some time, and they're starting to sound better. I know the tubs are bigger, but I already have the Westone 2's so I already knew which tips to use. Maybe it was IEM burn-in or just a mental adjustment. Either way, I was confused for a little bit even when I came back to the HD 650's.  That really messed with my head.

 

I think part of it was also the fact that the 4's have more across the spectrum than the 2's so I was overwhelmed by that extra sound. But after getting used to the sound, nothing really sticks out anymore. Because I'm a slight basshead, I set the mach3bass on my Cowon J3 to 2.

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

I shipped mine back yesterday. I really tried to like them, used for 10 hours. The fit, finish, looks, isolation, microphonics, quality, all very good.

The sound was not my cup of tea. Could it be the recordings? They are mostly Rock/Blues on a iPod with mostly MP3 128 kbps recordings.

 

I came from many years of listening with Shure SE 530s and then in the last year Se 535s. I like the Shure's. My wife is using them now and she really likes them too.

 

So,my quest continues. Today I have FT!334s coming. I hope they are the answer and if not.....they will be in the classifieds.

 

No offense, but why would you do that to yourself? Do you at least have the iPod rockboxed? I don't bother with 128 kbps anymore, and I only keep the ones of obscure recordings that I can't seem to find anymore. Even on Cowon J3, I have some FLAC files although I should probably start converting them to 320 kbps.

post #3127 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

So,my quest continues. Today I have FT!334s coming. I hope they are the answer and if not.....they will be in the classifieds.

If the 334's don't work then you may be looking at another pair of 535's.

post #3128 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Unfie View Post

 

No offense, but why would you do that to yourself? Do you at least have the iPod rockboxed? I don't bother with 128 kbps anymore, and I only keep the ones of obscure recordings that I can't seem to find anymore. Even on Cowon J3, I have some FLAC files although I should probably start converting them to 320 kbps.

 

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post


If that's the case, then you better open a classified right now. 128kbps mp3s are like putting 87 octane in your Bugatti veyron. I suggest you upgrade your quality to 256 Kbps at the very least to get your money's worth out of these iems.

I completely understand the thinking and luckily have the majority of CDs still. I have the time and will replace with the highest quality copy I can, if needed. I'll do tests to determine. A few reviewers have said the 334 is very accommodating to lower quality recordings, so we'll see.

 

That's not my issue. If you read around pages 43-45 of 334 in http://www.head-fi.org/t/597146/fitear-to-go-334-suyamas-custom-iem-made-universal , its all about the fit for my circumstances. I won't repeat now, I'll just say that I figured a work around. I figured out I could use a neck pillow like a horseshoe resting my head in such a way that my ear will not rest against the seat.

 

Stay tuned for update.

 

BTW Unfie and Eke........how do you listen to yours?


Edited by Saraguie - 8/29/12 at 9:21pm
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I find the w4's very cruel to bad recordings just like my 650's. Then again they perform very well on the good ones of any genre IMO.

 

When it comes to dirty rock recordings like Jack White, I find them more satisifying than my 650's.(only then ;)

I run my w4's on a twag v2 cable that has increased sonics quite a bit in the sense of separation and clarity.

 

Gotta say that I find it strange having cash for 334's and not having cash to have the capacity to hold quality bitrate files.

I run only lossless files on a CLAS/Continental combo and love my W4r's!atsmile.gif(gotta admit that I'm no basshead)

post #3130 of 5326

Good cans are hard on low quality files. Lossless is the only way to go when you are really getting into the tunes.

post #3131 of 5326
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Originally Posted by milarepa View Post

Gotta say that I find it strange having cash for 334's and not having cash to have the capacity to hold quality bitrate files.

I run only lossless files on a CLAS/Continental combo and love my W4r's!atsmile.gif(gotta admit that I'm no basshead)

Was not a question of having enough money to hold high capacity files it was being ignorant of the difference. Now I know :)

 

I am really trying to get away from carrying a amp. I did for many years with my other IEMs and iPod. And would again if I have to. Lots of well respected

Head-Fiers claim there is no difference for IEMs when amped. Just trying to find my own way. Glad you found yours happy_face1.gif

post #3132 of 5326

I use the Cowon J3 without an amp for my Westone 4R. The majority of my files are either Cowon J3. Like I said before, the only 128 kbps mp3 files I have obscure recordings. For the settings on Cowon J3, I have the BBE to 8, Mach3Bass 2, and MP Enhance On. This is all with the medium rubber tips on the 4R. Those seem to give me the best fit.

post #3133 of 5326
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post


If that's the case, then you better open a classified right now. 128kbps mp3s are like putting 87 octane in your Bugatti veyron. I suggest you upgrade your quality to 256 Kbps at the very least to get your money's worth out of these iems.


Not true, 128kbps CD rips still sound decent with the W4. It won't magically sound much better with a higher bitrate, since the W4 is known to be forgiving anyway. 

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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post


Not true, 128kbps CD rips still sound decent with the W4. It won't magically sound much better with a higher bitrate, since the W4 is known to be forgiving anyway. 

Key word: decent. The W4 is not a 'decent' sounding iem.
post #3135 of 5326
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post

 

 

I completely understand the thinking and luckily have the majority of CDs still. I have the time and will replace with the highest quality copy I can, if needed. I'll do tests to determine. A few reviewers have said the 334 is very accommodating to lower quality recordings, so we'll see.

 

That's not my issue. If you read around pages 43-45 of 334 in http://www.head-fi.org/t/597146/fitear-to-go-334-suyamas-custom-iem-made-universal , its all about the fit for my circumstances. I won't repeat now, I'll just say that I figured a work around. I figured out I could use a neck pillow like a horseshoe resting my head in such a way that my ear will not rest against the seat.

 

Stay tuned for update.

Well, the 334s are very, very good I have been listening for about 3 hours total. Are they a big upgrade over the W4Rs positively without a doubt YES. Are they worth 3 times the money? Meaning are they 300% better? Not exactly, its hard to quantify how much more they are worth. Am I happy with the way they make my 128 kbps sound YES. Am I happy with 128 kbps recordings NO.

 

Instead of reading 1,000 of pages of reviews and impressions of IEMs, which I have done the last 21 days, I will put that energy into re-copying my library. With roughly 6,000 songs it will take a while.

 

May or may not go for a AMP/DAC combination. Jeez, this is becoming an obsession :)


Edited by Saraguie - 8/30/12 at 12:16pm
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