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post #2866 of 5325
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Originally Posted by xII DM IIx View Post

Anything comparable to the Westone 4s in a dynamic driver IEM?

 

Not that I have heard.  I'd be curious as well, but the bar is set pretty high.

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I don't know if anyone's experienced this before, but the right earpiece on my W4's seem to be making some cracking noises. I think I've noticed it before when I got them, but I guess I just assumed they were due to the innately plasticky nature of the housings themselves and didn't pay much attention until now. But upon closer inspection, I realized the left earpiece does not have this issue. If I take a closer look, it seems that the plastic shells that are held together to make the body of the earpiece seem to almost be coming apart ever so slightly whenever I squeeze the shells (even with the slightest amount of pressure). This is really just a usability issue - however distracting the crackling sound may be when I insert the earpieces, it does not impede sound quality at all. I've had the W2 and  W3 on hand before, which share basically the same housings, and I don't remember this issue with them. The crackling sound isn't very loud, but still quite audible. I'm wondering whether or not this is a quality issue I should take up with Westone,  or that this behaviour is the norm (the W4's are still under warrant;y, I might add)

 

Any feedback from other owners would be appreciated, and I'd be glad to fill in any details on the problem that I might have missed.

post #2868 of 5325

Earlier this week, I started hearing new  low level cracking noise on my right side too, more noticeable on bass heavy songs.

I do not use my IEM's like I used to but still need to get it fix. 

Thanks for sharing

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I wonder if it is a control issue because I have heard it on mine as well and I got them about three weeks ago but it shows they were inspected last September. It's low, like you said, but it's there. I originally thought it was in my music but I'm not so sure now.
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i got problems when i plug them into desktop amp in low gain setting mode. 

 

I am not sure whether is it couldn't handle the power of the amp. The low gain setting should be -7db

 

 

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post #2871 of 5325
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

 

Not that I have heard.  I'd be curious as well, but the bar is set pretty high.

 

It is tough to imagine. The EX1000 is not bad. I think the RE272 had potential in the mids and treble, and I think even improved on both clarity and extension, but they totally missed it with the non-existent bass. 

post #2872 of 5325
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I wonder if it is a control issue because I have heard it on mine as well and I got them about three weeks ago but it shows they were inspected last September. It's low, like you said, but it's there. I originally thought it was in my music but I'm not so sure now.
 Mine were inspected around September as well, so it might be that this batch has some issues. Is the crackling sound for you due to the housing, or that you hear a small pop/crackle when music is being played (I get both)?
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Originally Posted by snapple10 View Post

Earlier this week, I started hearing new  low level cracking noise on my right side too, more noticeable on bass heavy songs.

I do not use my IEM's like I used to but still need to get it fix. 

Thanks for sharing

The pops and crackles are more evident on bassy songs, thanks for bringing that to my attention. How about the housing though, do you find that it produces a crackle when you squeeze them?

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Originally Posted by YoengJyh View Post

i got problems when i plug them into desktop amp in low gain setting mode. 

 

I am not sure whether is it couldn't handle the power of the amp. The low gain setting should be -7db

 

 

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 I don't think it's a power issue, because the pops frequent even when plugged into either my receiver or my E10. The E10 is always on low gain. 
 
 
If is a common issue, do you think we should contact Westone? It may very well be that this is a bad batch. 
post #2873 of 5325

housing is in-tack as far as I can tell. Mine pair is about a year old

 

Just reluctant to do any warranty replacement on a burned in IEM but might have to.

 

Read that Weston has an excellent customer service, though

 

okay crackling louder with Arrow 4G, what is the best settings to fix the channel imbalance? Read it here some time ago

 

Thanks


Edited by snapple10 - 5/18/12 at 6:14pm
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BA iems don't need burn-in. Some say the crossovers do, but I haven't experienced anything like that yet. It's usually brain burn-in that most people experience (which I find has just as much impact as any supposed actual burn-in) Since I've already had a pair to listen to for more than half a year, that's not really a problem on my front. Even then, I don't think burning in a new pair of should be troublesome at all; rather, I see it as an opportunity to be able to enjoy more music. 

 

Westone does have excellent customer service, so I'm not really worried about that. I just wanted to see if anyone else was experiencing this issue. 

 

I remember a thread a while back that dealt with channel imbalance on the W4's.  http://www.head-fi.org/t/588522/westone-4-driver-miss-match-should-be-disscused/15 is one, but I recall there being another one as well... Can anyone give me a lead? For me, it was a fit issue rather than drivers mismatching, but, who knows?

post #2875 of 5325
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I remember a thread a while back that dealt with channel imbalance on the W4's.  http://www.head-fi.org/t/588522/westone-4-driver-miss-match-should-be-disscused/15 is one, but I recall there being another one as well... Can anyone give me a lead? For me, it was a fit issue rather than drivers mismatching, but, who knows?

The link above references 0.7% being a problem imbalance which is less than the Westone 4r 2dB spec that is noted by Westone as being the design limit for these.  Maybe these are not the earphones to meet such a tight requirement if such is needed for enjoying music.  Anyone know of earphones with better results?  I checked on the Stax 009s and they are better than 2 dB but even they stray at some frequencies.


Edited by slwiser - 5/18/12 at 8:00pm
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Issues aside, I've been listening to the W4's for a while today. Namely, Rachmaninoff's Piano Concertos Nos. 2 and 3; Prelude in E flat with Byron Janis, London Symphony Orchestra, Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra, Antal Dorati (This version) If you haven't heard it, it's a mind-boggling rendition of a well-known classic. The W4's take the dynamics to another level, and really shows off its smooth midrange in this piece. I've always thought that the W4's have just the right mids for classical and most jazz, as compared to the typical Shure mids, which are more for vocals to me (Not that the W4's lack in vocals, female ones often shine better than the SE535's that I've auditioned). The somewhat laid-back, yet still sparkly-at-times and definitely detailed enough treble sets just the right ambiance for these songs. Bass isn't overwhelming, but remains authoritative and controlled (sub-bass and that mid-upper bass hump needs EQing to be completely neutral, but that's really all the criticism I can give to the bass - it's satisfying enough to make me forget any flaws). And the presentation is so enveloping. Not especially large, but strike the perfect balance - definitely closest to what I perceive as the perfect amount of soundstage. Everything is so well-integrated and balanced, that I feel it isn't even a BA phone at times - you could ween it out after scrutinous nit-picking, but it just seems all the more impressive after that. I'm sure the PFE232 and the K3003 beat it in transparency and clarity, but these aren't the phones for those kinds of stuff. I think it's balanced in more than just the sound signature; it strikes a balance between neutrality and naturalness, between technicalities and that warmness and fun. 

 

Weird that I'm giving my impressions so late after getting them, but maybe I'm just gushing over them right now because I won't be able to listen to them for a while when/if I send them back to solve the crackling issues.triportsad.gif

post #2877 of 5325

hi I'm thinking to buy ear tips for one of my friend (he has westone 4)

i noticed that the large size of shure olives and shure silicon is suitable for most of people

did any one has any problem with them? is there any better choice here?

post #2878 of 5325

I don't know your mate's ear size, but from my time with the olives, I picked up a midrange suckout not present with other tips. How does he like tri-flanges (shure)?

post #2879 of 5325
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I don't know your mate's ear size, but from my time with the olives, I picked up a midrange suckout not present with other tips. How does he like tri-flanges (shure)?


he don't like triple-flanges

I already want to buy a westone 4 for my self too cool.gif

 

I'm worry about fitting problem; but I think that the large size is the best choice. what size do you use?

post #2880 of 5325

Comply T-100 large is my preference.

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