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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

IMO the greatest pop release of the last thirty years.

 

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Im getting this one now interested I have previously not liked Radiohead will see
post #332 of 750

Lol, fun discussion:

 

The 75 Albums Every Man Should Own

 

And the follow-up:

 

30 Glaring Omissions from the 75 Albums Every Man Should Own

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Bloodhound gang - hooray for boobies

Agnes Obel - Philharmonics

Florence and the machine - Lungs

Dave Matthews band - Crash

Rammstein - Mutter

Coldplay - viva la vida or death and all his friends

 

 

 

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Im getting this one now interested I have previously not liked Radiohead will see

I got it and hated it deleted the music off my machine. Same ole Radiohead IMHO
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From the above-referenced Esquire article:

The Bends, Radiohead
 
Because Pablo Honey gave us a taste of how good Radiohead might become, and OK Computer gave us an idea of how weird they might become, but The Bendsgave us just the right doses of good and weird in equal measure and at once.
post #336 of 750
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

Lol, fun discussion:

 

The 75 Albums Every Man Should Own

 

And the follow-up:

 

30 Glaring Omissions from the 75 Albums Every Man Should Own


Just when I thought I was catching up!   Alright then take this.  http://groovenotes.org/2010/03/06/1000-jazz-albums-you-should-hear-before-you-die-the-first-500/

http://www.1000recordings.com/

 

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Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners

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Stacey Kent - Raconte-Moi

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Of that list, I own ten albums, and none of those ten are among my own personal favorites.  The remainder that I don't own, most of which I've heard at one time or another, I don't care at all for.  From glaring omissions list I own six and could care less about any of the others and don't care that much about the six with a few exceptions.  For that matter, I don't care at all for Esquire, magazines in general, or popular media.   There are no 75 albums or even one single album that "EVERY man should own".  What an absurd premise. Anyone scanning this very thread would quickly realize that what one person considers flawless might be ear-razors for you.  
 

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

Lol, fun discussion:

 

The 75 Albums Every Man Should Own

 

And the follow-up:

 

30 Glaring Omissions from the 75 Albums Every Man Should Own


 

 

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Of that list, I own ten albums, and none of those ten are among my own personal favorites.  The remainder that I don't own, most of which I've heard at one time or another, I don't care at all for.  From glaring omissions list I own six and could care less about any of the others and don't care that much about the six with a few exceptions.  For that matter, I don't care at all for Esquire, magazines in general, or popular media.   There are no 75 albums or even one single album that "EVERY man should own".  What an absurd premise. Anyone scanning this very thread would quickly realize that what one person considers flawless might be ear-razors for you. 

 

Yeah, I didn't wanna say it, but since the door's open I'd have to agree that that list is kind of a drag. The thing I find funniest, though, is that Esquire once called the gorgeous ballad collaboration John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman "the greatest album ever made". I guess they forgot, because it didn't even make the "30 Glaring Omissions" list.popcorn.gif
 

 

post #341 of 750

Any list like this is going to be somewhat to entirely subjective, so way to suck the fun out of any potential discussion. It's just another way to sell magazines and get page hits captain obvious, nothing more. Although it did make me want to hear Living in Stereo again.


Edited by grokit - 7/4/11 at 1:20am
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Any list like this is going to be somewhat to entirely subjective, so way to suck the fun out of any potential discussion. It's just another way to sell magazines and get page hits captain obvious, nothing more. Although it did make me want to hear Living in Stereo again.



Every thread you mean :) :)

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doublepoopglitch


Edited by rehabitat - 7/7/11 at 6:11am
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Late response, young family = little personal time
 

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Originally Posted by Sordel View Post

I wouldn't disagree with your calling any of these "seminal" (well, maybe Thriller) but you get more than one seminal album per decade and a lot of the albums that are seminal were failures. In fact, seminal is most often used of albums such as Trout Mask Replica that were not commercially successful. (In their day, that is: I'm guessing that TMR has made back its recording and pressing costs by now!) Also, seminal albums are often very flawed: they are more important for what they inspire than for what they are. I just can't take Nevermind seriously as a flawless album, but that doesn't mean it isn't very important. So, three very different concepts I'd say: popular, flawless, seminal.

 


You are right on all counts.  A decade is a rather coarse and arbitrary 'field', but it is interesting to think in broader terms.  These 'seminal' albums all have different reasons and a different demographic to be seminal for.  There are loads of albums considered seminal, specifically to a genre or social movement.  The ones I mentioned I feel are quite broad in their context and therefore appeal.  

 

Imo the concepts of popular, flawless and seminal may be different but not conflicting. They are related and are combined to create a subjective context for the individual.

 

 

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

Good post and a nice twist to this thread. The problem with "seminal" lies in the respected genre of music they are in... KOB as we know changed the direction of jazz but didnt really affect pop music as a whole, therefore I would say it was seminal only for Jazz. "Nevermind", also had a huge influence on the next generation of rock bands. Both DSOTM and Thriller are great albums, but I would say thats all that they are, I wouldn't necessarily say they changed the direction of pop music, just the same as an album like "Bat out of Hell"? or Exile on Main St. Sgt Peppers is probably the only one that I would say had a huge effect on popular music as a whole, both in culture and the opening of new doors for every band. I would also add both "Pet Sounds" and "NMTB" as huge music changers. All albums mentioned are definately a good reflection of the time though. Having said all of that, pop music is still sooooo young in the history of Western music, and so to split it into all of these little catorgories is also a bit finicky of me. So in 100 years from now, I'm guessing only St Peppers will be celebrated from your list.  

 

Just to add more for the nineties, bands like The Stone Roses and Radiohead have had a huge influence over pop music as a whole. Unfortunately the noughties seems to have been the decade of TV music with the X factor and bad MTV RnB (rythmn and bass!!!!) and even the so called hardcore punk and metal bands seem to be cleverly marketed now... I bet they all drink milk and are in bed by ten wif ther fake tattoos!! (sorry just a rant)   

 


Kind of Blue may be a jazz album, but it's a mainstream jazz album and it's appeal spans a large spectrum of culture and taste in the western world at it's time and still now.  The same or similar may be said of some of the other albums I mentioned.

 

As an aside, I was listening to Duke Ellington's Far East Suite (1966?) recently and noticed one of the tracks had a sustained piano chord at the end of the tune, and immediately I thought, that sounds like the final chord/minutes to 'Day In The Life' off of Sgt Peppers.  Music that transcends boundaries is the shiz.

 

The thing is, I don't see music in terms of genre.  It's just music to me; good, bad and indifferent.  And curious.

 

It's all good and I'm all inclusive biggrin.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

IMO the greatest pop release of the last thirty years.

 

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It's such a heartfelt bunch of songs that empathizes with anyone who hates their job and the government and feels controlled and helpless. This is ofcourse nothing new. But Radiohead put it in words and music that in 1997 seemed like a revelation for anyone that was an outsider. (and we all are!) A beautiful and important record.  


Big call Lugz, big call

post #345 of 750
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Originally Posted by rehabitat View Post

Kind of Blue may be a jazz album, but it's a mainstream jazz album and it's appeal spans a large spectrum of culture and taste in the western world at it's time and still now.  The same or similar may be said of some of the other albums I mentioned.

 

As an aside, I was listening to Duke Ellington's Far East Suite (1966?) recently and noticed one of the tracks had a sustained piano chord at the end of the tune, and immediately I thought, that sounds like the final chord/minutes to 'Day In The Life' off of Sgt Peppers.  Music that transcends boundaries is the shiz.

 

The thing is, I don't see music in terms of genre.  It's just music to me; good, bad and indifferent.  And curious.

 

It's all good and I'm all inclusive biggrin.gif

 

 


Big call Lugz, big call



Very true.  but...

 

can you name an album outside of "Rock" that has been hugely influenced by "Nevermind"?

 

can you name an album outside of Jazz that was hugely influenced by "KOB"?

 

can you name an album outside of "Prog Rock" that was hugely influenced by DSOTM?

 

can you name an album outside of "Comercial Pop" that was hugely unfluenced by "Thriller"?

 

I hate labels of music too but genres are there whether we like it or not...

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