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post #5731 of 5820
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post

I second what's been said.

Burn in is important! Also, positioning so the back of the cups touch the back of the ears as suggested by Rayzilla helps, and this is how I wear mine.

Lastly, giving it proper amplification helps the sound for sure. Some people think these don't require it, but they do. It makes them much better and tighter in the bass and overall sound.
+1 Well summarized.
post #5732 of 5820
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post

I second what's been said.

Burn in is important! Also, positioning so the back of the cups touch the back of the ears as suggested by Rayzilla helps, and this is how I wear mine.

Lastly, giving it proper amplification helps the sound for sure. Some people think these don't require it, but they do. It makes them much better and tighter in the bass and overall sound.

you totally right - now after ~100 of burn with isotec it completely different sounded phones - bass and high, but female vocal is still horrible... continue to burn...

thank you for advise about positioning!
Edited by alexst - 1/17/14 at 5:31am
post #5733 of 5820
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you totally right - now after ~100 of burn with isotec it completely differed sounded phones - bass and high, but female vocal is still horrible... continue to burn...

thank you for advise about positioning!

Glad you're starting to hear the improvements! I hope the female vocals get better for you soon.

post #5734 of 5820
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Originally Posted by alexst View Post


you totally right - now after ~100 of burn with isotec it completely different sounded phones - bass and high, but female vocal is still horrible... continue to burn...

thank you for advise about positioning!


Might also want to consider Alpha pads.  Adds bass tightness if you can believe it and comfort. 

post #5735 of 5820

Anyone know if there is a retailer in Vancouver B.C Canada that sells these headphones? I can't any around. I ended up buying some Shure 1540's instead, but I really want some Pro 900's. Amazon.ca is no help, all importers charging ridiculous amounts of money....

post #5736 of 5820
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
 

I second what's been said.

 

Burn in is important! Also, positioning so the back of the cups touch the back of the ears as suggested by Rayzilla helps, and this is how I wear mine.

 

Lastly, giving it proper amplification helps the sound for sure. Some people think these don't require it, but they do. It makes them much better and tighter in the bass and overall sound.


Really didn't buy it when I bought mine a few years ago, and I'm not buying it now.  "Burn in" doesn't change their sound enough to make someone a convert.  Burn in with these is more psychological and you simply getting used to their sound more than anything.  After five hundred hours of "burn in" and using an amp, they only sounded slightly less awful to me than when they were mint.  They have some incredibly good bass, but mids so recessed and drowned out that they may as well not even be considered mids at all, and the most ear bleeding sibilance on the highs ever.


Every few months I go back to them, trying to find a reason, any reason to use them and I simply can't find one.

 

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Originally Posted by fx101 View Post
 

Hey guys... I just received my Ultrasone Pro 900's from an Amazon marketplace seller and... I think something might be wrong with them.

 

The highs are harsh. Like... bone-shattering harsh. For reference I own Beyerdynamic DT990's (which are known for very harsh treble) and these highs are at least twice as annoying. Also... there's bass... but nothing big or overpowering like I hear everyone saying.

 

I'm using an Audioquest Dragonfly but I've also tried using these cans with a Little Dot Mkiii and straight from audio jacks. 

Right now, I almost can't bear to crank up the volume because the highs are so harsh. Is this normal? Will they burn in? Or should I return them?


If you don't like how they sound now, or like enough about them to tolerate the really bad things, you won't like them ever.  For me, they were the biggest waste of money I've ever spent on audio equipment.  The treble does not improve.  If you use them while watching movies too, you'll have to turn the volume way down every time there's gunfire or scenes with glass breaking, unless you don't care about protecting your hearing.

Edit: saw your second reply, about how the headphone fairy visited you and hit your 900s with a magic wand in only 24hrs.  Just seems like more Head-Fi hype, or I am somehow one of the only people that ended up with the pair that never improves.  Mine still sound like trash.  But then again, I actually do have sensitive ears.


Edited by Sanctuary - 2/15/14 at 10:34pm
post #5737 of 5820

I guess my hearing is just quite different than yours. The highs on the 900 usually are typically not bothersome to me, and I even enjoy the level of detail and excitement it brings to my EDM music. If I don't wear the cups in the right position, the sound does change considerably, and I lose the "sweet spot" on them.

 

I do have a tendency to find headphones too dark, for instance, the V-Moda M-100. Could not enjoy it because I felt the highs were sucked away. This is probably because I am used to the Pro 900.

 

I enjoy them with my video games too, the highs do not bother me. It confuses me to see you refer to them as "ear bleeding" when it's just not the case for me.

 

I have tried many, many headphones, and the Pro 900 and D2000 are the two I kept. They are both excellent and really make me happy with my (mostly) EDM music library.


Edited by TWerk - 2/15/14 at 11:00pm
post #5738 of 5820
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
It confuses me to see you refer to them as "ear bleeding" when it's just not the case for me.

 

Hearing nothing but "tsssssssss" on the highs becomes incredibly fatiguing, and they are super exaggerated on anything that actually wants a ringing sound (such as shells dropping or glass shattering).  I say "ear bleeding" because after a point, they become physically painful to listen to as though someone shoved a nail into my eardrum.  Headphones shouldn't do that.


It's also actually pretty ridiculous to expect someone to have to go out of their way to wear them in such a way that's not natural just to alleviate some of the problem.  I know that because of the way the S-Logic is designed and not everyone's ears are situated the same that some adjustment might be necessary, but nothing beyond what you would do for any other headphone.

Movie dialogue is completely unnatural sounding, and they also aren't that great with games and positional audio either.  I listen to a lot of classical, rock, progressive and metal and they are flat out terrible for those genres, while they do sound good with EDM, dubstep, techno and other genres that don't seem to care one bit about balance or vocals for that matter.


Edited by Sanctuary - 2/15/14 at 11:36pm
post #5739 of 5820
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
 

I guess my hearing is just quite different than yours. The highs on the 900 usually are typically not bothersome to me, and I even enjoy the level of detail and excitement it brings to my EDM music. If I don't wear the cups in the right position, the sound does change considerably, and I lose the "sweet spot" on them.

 

I do have a tendency to find headphones too dark, for instance, the V-Moda M-100. Could not enjoy it because I felt the highs were sucked away. This is probably because I am used to the Pro 900.

 

I enjoy them with my video games too, the highs do not bother me. It confuses me to see you refer to them as "ear bleeding" when it's just not the case for me.

 

I have tried many, many headphones, and the Pro 900 and D2000 are the two I kept. They are both excellent and really make me happy with my (mostly) EDM music library.


Agree 100% but I've had so many people say they can't stand the tizz - guess we're just fortunate we don't.   Love the Pro900's and use them for my portable now.

post #5740 of 5820

People have to accept on this thread that the Pro900 is more a polarizing headphone than most. It's not for everyone. I completely understand what some people are describing as harsh highs. The Pro900s are the headphones I listen to most at the moment because they are unmatched in their presentation of bass heavy music. I haven't found any headphone that can beat them - any. However, there are many times that I switch between them and my other headphones and realize just how distant the mids can be in comparison to more neutral headphones. It is what it is, and I love the Pro900s for what they are; and they are a very polarizing headphone. I haven't heard anyone say yet "The Pro900s are OK, just about what I expected." It's always more along the lines of the following two: "These things absolutely ROCK" or "Earbleeding trash/overpriced junk." That's ok for me because I belong to the former group rather than the latter. 

 

EDIT: Upon further thought of my post, maybe the TH900/TH600 can actually match the Pro900's presentation of bass heavy music - that I would probably agree with. 


Edited by goldenSHK - 2/16/14 at 7:52pm
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I love the sound from my Pro 900's a lot. I use them exclusively as portable cans.

 

I am considering sending them to moon audio for detachable split mod and blue dragon cable. Considering I will be using them hooked up to the Theorem 720's mini jack, would this be something worth considering?

 

I can't really use the balanced port on the Theorem 720 because Moon Audio only has angled connectors which would stick out farther than the device in my pocket and strain the connector really badly. Coupled with taking in and out of pocket 10 times a day or more, it just wouldn't be a good mix.

post #5742 of 5820

I have a question that maybe someone who's had experience with the Pro 900's can answer if they've also happened to have listened to CAL!s, but first some context, (and yes this is gonna be TLDR, so you can just skip to the bolded part at the end if you want)

• I don't live within reasonable travel distance to any stores that carry anything even remotely resembling high-end headphones, so auditioning stuff is a no go.
• Never used any high-end headphones either, my headphone history has been limited to crappy earbuds, crappy gaming headsets, and most recently a pair of CAL!s

• My CAL!s broke (physical connection between earcups & headband), which resulted in me taking one of my broken gaming headsets (TB PX5) and Frankensteining the CAL!'s earcups onto the PX5s, this equaled Wireless CAL!s with PX5 gaming features, which was GREAT.... for all of 30 minutes until the double earcup clamping force of the weird headphone abomination I had created made it unbearable to wear.
•Now I'm looking for a new set of headphones and want to upgrade from the CAL!s. 



I know headphones are pretty subjective to personal tastes, but would the Ultrasone Pro 900s be inferior to the CAL!s in any category soundwise? (assuming CAL!s were used unamped, and Pro 900's would be AMP'd)
 

•CAL!s were way too bass light for my tastes, so I want something that's a significant step up in that category


Edited by Totes Ma Goats - 2/27/14 at 3:36am
post #5743 of 5820
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Originally Posted by Totes Ma Goats View Post
 

I have a question that maybe someone who's had experience with the Pro 900's can answer if they've also happened to have listened to CAL!s, but first some context, (and yes this is gonna be TLDR, so you can just skip to the bolded part at the end if you want)

• I don't live within reasonable travel distance to any stores that carry anything even remotely resembling high-end headphones, so auditioning stuff is a no go.
• Never used any high-end headphones either, my headphone history has been limited to crappy earbuds, crappy gaming headsets, and most recently a pair of CAL!s

• My CAL!s broke (physical connection between earcups & headband), which resulted in me taking one of my broken gaming headsets (TB PX5) and Frankensteining the CAL!'s earcups onto the PX5s, this equaled Wireless CAL!s with PX5 gaming features, which was GREAT.... for all of 30 minutes until the double earcup clamping force of the weird headphone abomination I had created made it unbearable to wear.
•Now I'm looking for a new set of headphones and want to upgrade from the CAL!s. 



I know headphones are pretty subjective to personal tastes, but would the Ultrasone Pro 900s be inferior to the CAL!s in any category soundwise? (assuming CAL!s were used unamped, and Pro 900's would be AMP'd)
 

•CAL!s were way too bass light for my tastes, so I want something that's a significant step up in that category

The Pro 900's shoulld be a stepup from CAL!'s in a lot of ways. However, keep in mind that their sound signatures are a bit different from eachother. I thought the CAL!'s sounded pretty balanced, especially when compared to the Ultrasones, but the Ultrasones are fairly V-shaped. So, if you really like mids, you'll probably miss them. That being said, I found the Pro 900 to be more bassheavy than the CAL!'s, so in that sense you'll probably like them more. Although, I have to say that I found the Pro 900's to be quite different from the CAL!'s.

 

There may be other headphones out there that would suit you better. In retrospect I found the Pro 900's to be quite special and not always too "friendly" -- they weren't "forgiving", so if music sounded remotely close to "bad", it would sound terrible in the Ultrasones.

 

What exactly did you like about the CAL!'s and what exactly did you not like? 

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Hard to describe since I don't really have a decent point of reference to compare the CAL!s to and am unfamiliar with proper terminology but I'll try:



While the quality (not amount) of the bass on the CAL!s was far better than the weak & hollow sounding bass on various gaming headsets, it still seemed to be on the soft/fuzzy/undetailed side and sometimes that softness seemed to transfer into the other non-bass sounds. (I use 'soft' in the way you would describe a picture that has had a blur filter applied to it) So if I could get something with sharper/more detailed & stronger bass that would be great.

 



I liked the CAL!s for their all-aroundness and not being fatiguing sound wise the way some tinny sounding cheap earbuds can sound, but that slight fuzzyness the CAL!s had sometimes threw off my ability to enjoy female vocals (I don't often listen to music with vocals, but when I do they're female ones) so I could never describe female vocals with the CAL!s as "great sounding" only "pretty good"



The main reason I jumped to considering the 900s is because of how often I found myself wanting more/MOAR!/and better bass, and when I say more I mean I even threw one of the stonger buttkicker options into my nerd chair to try and artificially satisfy my bass urge. But if there's another headphone option with really really close to Pro 900 bass + also better at handling female vocals+ is closed back, I'd definitely toss that into my consideration.


Edited by Totes Ma Goats - 2/27/14 at 9:13am
post #5745 of 5820

Totes Ma Goats: The Pro 900s will definitely without question deliver the bass you are looking for and also be more revealing and detailed than the CAL!, however they can be fatiguing in the highs if you turn them up. I stand behind the fact that regardless of the highs, the Pro 900s are probably the best headphone under $1000 for EDM, hiphop, and bass heavy music (or video games). Few people would disagree, I think. I actually came to this thread to ask the other Pro 900 owners a question about the highs ironically.

 

General question to everyone:

If anyone has tried the Kees Mod, how has it helped with the highs? Does it slightly smooth them out so they lose their fatiguing nature? I am considering doing the Kees Mod since I don't mind losing some micro-details for a more relaxing and rocking music experience since it's not like I am using the Pro 900s as an analytically microscope like the HD800s. So what I want to know is if anyone has first hand experience with the Kees mod or any mod or pad switch/anything that happens to slightly smooth out the highs to make these more like the Denon/Fostex headphones in terms of sound signature. MrSpeakers just released an Alpha Dog Obedience Kit for the same problem with the ADs. I'm basically asking for a Pro 900 version if anyone has any ideas. 

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