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post #5356 of 5820

I'm not the best at describing sound so bear with me. The big difference is the bass. I like the bass of the HE-400s but it isn't as voluptuous as the Pro 900s. This seems to lend itself well in making the Ultrasones come off as the thicker sounding phone. It's got more substance in the low end but the character is less defined (though not to discredit the Ultrasones).

 

The HiFiMAN mids are stronger sounding, almost to an odd degree. It was actually a shock because vocals sound so much different. It's a bit more articulated. As someone that's spent a lot of time with the Pro 900s, it was quite an experience to try a headphone with slightly less recessed mids. These still don't sound flat but I think they use it to their advantage; flat sounds boring, in my experience. A slight smile in the response is more satisfying.

 

The highs are a wash, in my opinion. My hearing isn't the greatest (one too many rock shows and two too few ear plugs will do that to you) so I have a difficult time picking apart subtleties in this area. The HE-400's highs seem to have a bit more air underneath them. In both cases, I find them to be pleasant enough. I've got nothing bad to say about either set. I've heard less-than-flattering things about both headphones' high end but I just don't notice it. I'm happy with the amount of definition I get from either.

 

Aside from all of the frequency stuff that defines the signature, the biggest difference is the spaciousness of the sound. The HE-400s seem to place sounds all over the sound field. The Pro 900s never came across as being narrow or confined in any way but the HE-400s expanded on that broad stage, giving an extra sense of depth, almost at the expensive of overall tonal thickness. That's the vibe I get, at least.

 

There's also the comfort issue to consider. The HiFiMANs are quite a bit heavier and the cups are slightly bigger. They are both comfortable enough but the edge goes to the Ultrasones. I wouldn't turn down the HE-400s just because of their bulk and weight.

 

In the end, I'd say that going from Pro 900 to HE-400 is more of a lateral move. They have different sounds but one isn't obviously better than the other. They're different experiences and I'm happy with the money spent on both of them.

 

I'll see how my opinions on the matter change once I spend some time with both pairs and an amp. And, to be fair, I didn't spend a ton of time with the Pro 900s before putting the HE-400s back on and giving these impressions.

 

Maybe bareby can chime in on the issue. I've seen him around the HE-400 thread and here he is. ;)


Edited by LarryKingsShoes - 2/22/13 at 1:41pm
post #5357 of 5820

A few posts ago, I did a post detailing how to get better sound. 

Anyways, I have since done Kees Mod, and am hugely impressed with the results.

The sound is warmer, less fatigue on the highs, less sibilance, more up front mids, beautiful bass response. 

I would have never thought the slight and easy mods would have such a nice impact on the sound. 

It is much different sounding than the stock now, and better across the board in Lows, Mids, and Highs.

 

The screwdriver is a philips precision #00. You can get a set of precision screwdrivers for 4 bucks at Walgreens.

Stick a piece of felt on the inside of each cup, away from the driver.

Buy standard cosmetic beauty cotton pads, 5.5 cm across is perfect. I put two in each cup. One was too much bass, three was too little bass. Two was just right.

I bandaged the left most hole on the right side, and the right most hole on the left side.

It's so nice now, really you must try this if u have a pro 900.

If you do have questions about Kees mod, I have no problem answering them.


Edited by TWerk - 2/27/13 at 3:15am
post #5358 of 5820

Which Ultrasone is the most balanced and neutral of the closed models?

post #5359 of 5820
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Which Ultrasone is the most balanced and neutral of the closed models?

 

From my experience : Signature pro .

post #5360 of 5820

How well do these  suckers do every genre. I listen to everything and like a little boost in the bass. I just don't want the mids to be super recessed. I'm coming  from some dt770's  80Ohm and looking  for an upgrade.

post #5361 of 5820
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How well do these  suckers do every genre. I listen to everything and like a little boost in the bass. I just don't want the mids to be super recessed. I'm coming  from some dt770's  80Ohm and looking  for an upgrade.

What source and amp are you using?

 

Anyway, I think this thread might have all the info you're looking for http://www.head-fi.org/t/538289/review-hfi-580-vs-pro-900-vs-dt770-pro-80-comparison

post #5362 of 5820
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Originally Posted by FlobHobNob View Post

How well do these  suckers do every genre. I listen to everything and like a little boost in the bass. I just don't want the mids to be super recessed. I'm coming  from some dt770's  80Ohm and looking  for an upgrade.

No idea about the DT770, but the 900 do fairly well with a variety of genres. I think the 2900 might be a better choice though, as an overall all-around headphone, assuming you can deal with an open-back model in your scenario. But the 900 aren't dreadfully recessed or inferior for a variety of music. smily_headphones1.gif
post #5363 of 5820

I was just hovering over amazon, about to buy the 900s when I refreshed the page and they went on a lightning sale! They're on for only $199 if you buy them during the next ten minutes or so. So if anyone is on the edge about buying them, now is the time!

post #5364 of 5820

These headphones are great for modding too. Pads are about the easiest in the industry to remove, and you get to work with the S-Logic Plus plate. Can't even tell you how many times I experimented with stuffing the cups with exfoliating pads and putting felt tips on and around the holes on the plate, haha! Super easy to experiment with, and quite fun to boot.

post #5365 of 5820
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Originally Posted by FeedMe View Post

I was just hovering over amazon, about to buy the 900s when I refreshed the page and they went on a lightning sale! They're on for only $199 if you buy them during the next ten minutes or so. So if anyone is on the edge about buying them, now is the time!

Wow. That's a pretty screamin' deal. Not much time left...

 

 

post #5366 of 5820

Can't wait until I get mine! I've been browsing the forums for weeks trying to decide what to upgrade to from my xb500's, but these stood out to me. I've never even heard an audiophile-grade pair of headphones before, so I'll hopefully be blown away biggrin.gif

post #5367 of 5820

Me too. I like my DT770's for bass heavy closed headphones, but from what I hear these will be even better. And they'll be a bassier alternative to complement my HD650's. Seems like that was a pretty incredible deal (the $300 Amazon has it listed for is already a good deal compared to before from what I understand), thanks to everyone who posted it!

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Originally Posted by Tsujigiri View Post

Me too. I like my DT770's for bass heavy closed headphones, but from what I hear these will be even better. And they'll be a bassier alternative to complement my HD650's. Seems like that was a pretty incredible deal (the $300 Amazon has it listed for is already a good deal compared to before from what I understand), thanks to everyone who posted it!
What version of the dt770 do you have? Also, could you leave some impressions when you get them. I'm looking for an upgrade to my dt770's.
post #5369 of 5820

I have the 80 Ohm version. I'll be sure to post some impressions, then. To be honest, I'm perfectly satisfied with my DT770's since I have HD650's for more critical listening, but I couldn't pass up the Pro 900 deal and from what I hear they should be a great step up.

post #5370 of 5820

God can't believed I missed out on the Amazon lightning deal. If someone here who has bought the 900s on Amazon recently and isn't satisfied with them, I'll be glad to take it off your hands (I'll pay of course) wink_face.gif.

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