Ultrasone Pro 900 Impressions Thread
Jul 13, 2012 at 6:15 PM Post #4,696 of 5,992
Yes they are...
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Happy listening for happy people!!
 
Jul 14, 2012 at 4:02 AM Post #4,697 of 5,992
For those of you that ever followed my gaming headphone thread. It's been updated, with the Pro 900!

Here's the whole snippet:

Here's the official and final (unless I made some glaring mistakes) Pro 900 impressions! It's been added to the first post as well.

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Pro 900

So I gotta say, the Pro 900 is lethal with Dolby Headphone. They are stupid awesome for gaming.

The DT990 is it's closest sounding alternative, but you definitely trade off that open soundstage for a closed one, so if there are any DT990 fans looking for a closed headphone that bears some resemblance, but with lesser treble, and more focused/stronger bass, the Pro 900 is it.




Fun: You will be absorbed into your games with the Pro 900, make no mistake. The ambience won't come close to the D7000's, but it's damn good on it's own merits. There's something about the pulse the Pro 900s emit that really keep you excited every single minute you use them for gaming. The bass is strong as all hell, but very, VERY tight, making for an incredibly fun can that doesn't smother detail with it's bass. I'd say it does gaming bass better than the DT990, for sure. Not to knock the DT990, since it's open AND has that amazing bass. The Pro 900 is closed, which should make it's bass an obviously logical strength.

Competitive: I know that the Pro 2900 is less bassy, making it for more focus on detail, but the Pro 900's bass really, REALLY doesn't get in the way. Directionality was great (just as it was on the Pro 2900). Soundstage was also similar, despite it's closed vs open design. The Pro 2900 didn't ever sound open in any case. The recessed mids didn't truly rear it's ugly head when I was gaming, so I'll consider them recessed but clean sounding, not making them much of an issue. The Pro 900 is stronger in the fun category than competitive, but it is by no means weak for competitive gaming. You can and will maintain focus even with the addition of that lovely bass. I'd say even with the tip towards bass, the Pro 900's bass keeps you ever so slightly more focused than the DT990's bass, though I'd say the DT990 is better overall for competitive use due to it's expansive soundstage/open sound that keeps other details more spread apart and easier to pick up.

Comfort: Personally, I would say they are an 8 for me, and I can wear them all day long, but I know realistically, you guys won't find it as comfortable due to it's clamp grip, and whatnot. I honestly don't see why people have issues with the Pro 900's top padding. It's infinitely better than the Q701's padding, which was not really an issue after some time. The Pro 900's top padding is a lot like the Sennheiser PC360's. Can't see how that can bother anyone.

Isolation: I know I haven't done this with any other headphone, but that's usually because I prefer open headphones, which don't isolate well at all. Because the Pro 900 IS closed, I feel it necessary to mention how well it does. I feel that it keeps outside noises out well enough (certainly leaps and bounds better than the D7000), and does incredibly well keeping sound from leaking out, even with it's velour pads.

Value: Overall, the Pro 900 truly houses a resemblance to it's sibling, the Pro 2900, even down it it's soundstage. You trade off the Pro 2900's EXTREMELY articulated bass, for a more prominent, less articulate, but still very high quality bass. I can literally paste the review of the Pro 2900, and change the bass section, and voila. I gotta say, I prefer the treble on the Pro 900 to than the Pro 2900 by a little bit. They are both artificial sounding as a whole, but the Pro 2900's treble sounded more metallic to me.

Having spent a bit of time just gaming with them, it is what has made me decide to keep them. I can't wear the D7000 that long when gaming, and the Pro 900 is a VERY solid back up for that purpose. I may not have been as happy with the Pro 900 for music, but considering how little I've been using headphones when gaming, I think it's a big win for the Pro 900. They truly pulled it off in the bottom of the 9th, with 2 outs, man on 2nd and third, down by one, with a bass hit to win the game. :wink:

I was VERY close to giving up on them. It wasn't until I used them for gaming that made them invaluable to me.

If you have just over $300 to spend on a headphone for gaming that you want to use for fun and some competitive gaming, the Pro 900 is a rock solid choice. It does favor fun more than competitive, but it won't let you down either way, with it's great positioning, unobtrusive bass, and clean sound.

I also want to add that if you were on the fence between the Pro 900 vs the Pro 2900, I personally recommend the Pro 900. The Pro 2900 doesn't have an airy sound, losing the main reason why I believe anyone would go for an open headphone. The mids and treble are similar, making the only real differing aspect being the bass. Considering that the Pro 900 is a ton of fun without sounding messy, it will impress you more than the Pro 2900. The Pro 2900 is more balanced overall, but even calling it balanced is a far stretch, due to mid recession, and more metallic treble. The Pro 900 may also have similar recessed mids, but that trades off for more bass, whereas the Pro 2900 doesn't really give you anything in return for those recessed mids. The Pro 2900 has remarkable texture and refinement in the bass, but is lacking in abundant quantity to make that bass really stand out. The Pro 2900 is also considerably more expensive than the Pro 900 (if you shop well), making it just a poor choice for it's exorbitant price.

For music: I want to mention how much I am enjoying the Pro 900 through the E9. Even though it's very hard to distinguish between it and the NFB5 at first, the NFB5 has the tendency to flesh out the sound a little, which is TYPICALLY a good thing. However, in the case of the Pro 900, I find that as a detriment to the mids. The E9 holds the vocals together more, with more focus. I think that has always been a strength of the E9. The E9 may make vocals sound thin with some headphones (in comparison to the NFB5 and it's full/organic sound), yet that is what makes it just a little clearer. It truly helps the Pro 900. Ironically, I thought the E9 was really bad with the Pro 2900, making that treble just really irksome.


Final scores:

Fun: 9

Competitive: 7.5

Comfort: 7.5

Isolation: 8


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Jul 14, 2012 at 8:51 PM Post #4,698 of 5,992
^ Awesome :)
Exactly the way I feel about them. Gunshots and explosions never sounded so good (& bassy!)
Positioning better than alot of open 'phones and that's without dolby hp.
Really need to get an asus card with dolby now to try it out! Probably Xonar DG, supercheap.
 
What FPS games have you been playing Madlust, that make them shine?
I'm getting a bit sick of BF3 and its terrible positional audio
 
Jul 14, 2012 at 8:55 PM Post #4,699 of 5,992
For good positional audio, Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare 2, and Black Ops (with Ninja Pro). Those three highlight how well a headphone can do positional cues. Modern Warfare 3... not so much.
 
Jul 15, 2012 at 6:01 AM Post #4,701 of 5,992
Well, I read the first 10 pages of this thread then ran out of time to read the other 300 or so but that shows what a great topic this is.  I currently have a set of Denon AHD2000's and have just ordered a set of AHD7000's - listening mainly to Classic Rock and Metal.
 
Not sure if the Pro 900's would give me anything that those 2 don't but would be really interested in opinions from people who own or who have listened to both?  I like bass and am tempted by the reputed bass of the 900's but is it really that much better than the 2000's to justify the cost?
 
Thanks in advance guys.
 
Jul 15, 2012 at 6:38 AM Post #4,702 of 5,992
Well, I read the first 10 pages of this thread then ran out of time to read the other 300 or so but that shows what a great topic this is.  I currently have a set of Denon AHD2000's and have just ordered a set of AHD7000's - listening mainly to Classic Rock and Metal.

Not sure if the Pro 900's would give me anything that those 2 don't but would be really interested in opinions from people who own or who have listened to both?  I like bass and am tempted by the reputed bass of the 900's but is it really that much better than the 2000's to justify the cost?

Thanks in advance guys.


No... if you're getting the D7000, the Pro 900 won't even come close to keeping up, other than having even more bass. The D7000 is on a whole other level from the Pro 900s, IMHO.

IF you feel that after having listened to the D7000s, you need more bass, THEN you can say the Pro 900 warrants a look. However, you will be downgrading EVERYTHING else.
 
Jul 15, 2012 at 9:34 PM Post #4,704 of 5,992
Although Ultrasone Pro900 has quite a good sound quality but with price tag$330seem to be overpriced!
The whole headphone construction is made of plastic. Alternative, you could spend less than half to get ATH-M50which has been known for superior sound quality with reasonable price. Or you need more bass, then get ATH-PRO700MK2.
 
Jul 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM Post #4,705 of 5,992
Did you just say the M50 has superior sound quality to the Pro 900s?
okay.
The M50 can't touch the Pro 900s. I've heard them many times (my friend has a pair). And the Pro700Mk2s have lots of sub bass and nothing else. The Pro 900s, in my opinion, are priced right for their quality. There's nothing below its price that can touch it for what I like about the phones.
 
Here's the review I did today of the Pro 900s.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/618594/review-ultrasone-pro-900-kees-mod-fiio-e17-the-electronica-review
 
These things are magnificent across all frequencies now with the E17 and more burn in. I am seriously becoming more and more blown away by the depth and precision this thing tackles sound with.
 
Jul 15, 2012 at 10:01 PM Post #4,706 of 5,992
Did you just say the M50 has superior sound quality to the Pro 900s?

okay.
The M50 can't touch the Pro 900s. I've heard them many times (my friend has a pair). And the Pro700Mk2s have lots of sub bass and nothing else. The Pro 900s, in my opinion, are priced right for their quality. There's nothing below its price that can touch it for what I like about the phones.

Here's the review I did today of the Pro 900s.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/618594/review-ultrasone-pro-900-kees-mod-fiio-e17-the-electronica-review

These things are magnificent across all frequencies now with the E17 and more burn in. I am seriously becoming more and more blown away by the depth and precision this thing tackles sound with.

I agreed with you that Pro900 has great sound but it is over priced!
If Pro900 is totally made of aluminum housing and leather earpad, then I would say it worth $330.
 
Jul 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM Post #4,707 of 5,992
x1......thumbs up on the pro900.
 
when it is under control by a good s/s amp, its astoundingly great. albeit a cooler signature vs say a d7000
i like the ultrasone becos it gives a diff rendition of my regular music...i get a varied taste, just great.
2012, dances with wolves...avatar...wow.
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edit : and do crank up the volume...ultrasones should be played LOUUUUUD.
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Jul 15, 2012 at 10:33 PM Post #4,708 of 5,992
Quote:
I agreed with you that Pro900 has great sound but it is over priced!
If Pro900 is totally made of aluminum housing and leather earpad, then I would say it worth $330.

Metal makes noise and is heavy. They made it out of very durable plastic for a reason. And I hate leather. Velour is x10 better for bass. 
You're the first person I've ever seen complain about the build quality. These things are top notch.
 
@Lorspeaker
Yes. Do crank the volume. 
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 On my E17, I kept reading people say +6db gain is for most headphones. +12db gain is for hard to drive stuff. 
I tried +6db. It was smooth, but didn't deliver the sound the right way. +12db and these things bellow noises at you. :D
 
Jul 16, 2012 at 10:06 AM Post #4,709 of 5,992
Has anyone experimented with Kees' mod variations?
I was testing out different damping areas. I didn't like the whole pad just being behind the driver. It seemed to suffocate it. So, I cut out where the driver is and the felt pad would be and fit the cotton pad in the back. It sounded much better, but the the sound stage was too forward for my taste. It seems to cancel out the purpose of S-Logic by taking the depth out of the music. So, I tried dampening specific areas. I tried the back half (where your ear would be) and that took away all the bass. I tried the top half of the cup and that just made it sound funny. However, it seems even a small amount of the cotton somewhere will help add a bit of control and precision to the bass. And I got an idea. What about putting the cotton padding on the back of the driver plate? Maybe cut out a circle (like a doughnut) and fit it around the back of the driver. Or maybe fit it around the back of the air holes (around them, not covering them).
I will try it out later when I get home, but I don't want to keep taking this thing apart over and over.
 
Jul 17, 2012 at 7:10 AM Post #4,710 of 5,992
My Ultrasone Pro 900s ... 
I wear them to work, at home, playing video games or when I want to ignore people ... so pretty much all the time! lol.
They are not overly clunky so you can wear them outside!
 
 
At max volume they rattle your skull & vibrate your glasses ...
They cradle you in their sound at mid volume and send you into the land of bliss ... 
They sound so good you feel guilty when you even look at another pair of headphones ... 
You get a little sad when you can't listen to them ... 
They make music better ... 
 
I might be in love with them lmao!
 
Seriously tho, I have heard HD800s & D7k and I wouldn't give up my Ultrasones for either, I would also pay triple their price for them. 
 
Remember that it is all about taste, for example: Some guys like IEMs instead of over / round ear & other way around its the same with the sound signature each headphone provides.
While I love my Pro 900s & would fight ninjas for them ... there might be a dude out there thats all like ewww these suck ( and after I defeat the ninjas and they obey me I will send them after him ) 
 
Also did you guys notice how it looks like you are wearing chrome rims ? How awesome is that ?! Who doesn't love chrome rims!
And when you wear them around people who are wearing Beats and turn the volume up, those dudes in Beats get sad as hell when they see your Super Awesome Ultrasone Pro900s literally vibrate on your head. 
Last thing, if you turn up the bass + volume = free head massage ! 
 
 
Also none of this is sarcasm ... I think I am seriously in love with a my headphones lmao. 
 

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