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post #271 of 5883
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The Matrix M Stage is a great entry level amp.  It has a slightly warm but detailed sound sig.  Because of this, and its 4 gain settings, it pairs well with many different headphones.  It drives the Pro 900s as much as I would want them to be driven.  Over winter break, I flew home to Seattle, WA and only took my Ibasso D4 with me.  The Ultrasone's sounded just great out of it, and I was happy with my temporary setup.  Once I arrived back at my dorm and plugged the 900s into the Matrix, I realized how much it adds to the sound.  The bass goes so much deeper and the soundstage is widened considerably.  I also enjoy the Matrix because it acts as a switch between my Xbox and my computer, so when I want to stop listening to music and start playing some video games, I just flip the input switch on the front and I'm all set.

 

I like the Matrix so much that I won't upgrade for some time.  In fact, I'll probably only upgrade once I buy a headphone like the D7000 or LCD-2 (or whatever else is out by then) and want to balance them, therefore needing a balanced setup.  For now, and for quite a while into the future, the Matrix will be all I need in terms of headphone amplification.  But since you want to know what amp I'd upgrade to NOW, I'd easily pick up the Meier Concerto, along with the StageDAC, if I had the money that is.  Seems like an amazing setup.

 

Hope that helped.

 

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Hey Jibbie, I'm considering upgrading to a Matrix M Stage amp, I currently have a Practical Devices XM4 which I bought just for the bass boost feature and it works pretty well, but I really could use a change. How is the bass with the M Stage? I'm hoping it would be tight and robust with plenty of depth/extension and impact.. With the XM4 it's like a night and day difference with the bass boost on with certain tracks, especially bass heavy dubstep and electronica, and I'd prefer to not have to rely on the boost all the time to get the effect I'm looking for as some songs (rock and industrial) sound too muddy and convoluted with it. If you were to upgrade from the M Stage, what amp would you decide on? I'm currently burning in my 2nd pair of Pro 900s, I had to get a replacement after I busted my first pair (had to leave for L.A. for 5 days and decided to burn in my phones during that time, but I put the volume on too loud and screwed up the drivers I guess, sound was only coming out of one channel.. fcking idiot I was). Fortunately Buyauthorized sent me an RMA and did a seamless exchange, highly recommended for sure. The 2nd pair didn't totally wow me like the 1st one did but it's slowly getting back there again and hopefully with the M Stage or something I'll be addicted once more :)

post #272 of 5883
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I have a feeling that you'll love the Pro 900 biggrin.gif.

Great bass (if not more quantity than the HFI 580s, then definitely higher quality).

Mids sound good, highs are sparkly, and for a closed can, soundstage is damn impressive.



You're saying everything that I want to hear! Time to get my hopes up.


 

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I have a feeling that you'll love the Pro 900 biggrin.gif.

Great bass (if not more quantity than the HFI 580s, then definitely higher quality).

Mids sound good, highs are sparkly, and for a closed can, soundstage is damn impressive.



That's what I was afraid of on the PRO900's. Regardless of how much the sound matches my preferences, the PRO900's leak too much sound for my use. Though I remember reading Wind016's impressions, with him being disappointed in the amount of bass (after experiencing the HFI-580s). I'm not sure if that disappointment was because it was at the same level of the HFI's and didn't improve, or was just less impactful overall.

 

I can tolerate a little bit of leak. I think any phones with velour/cloth pads will leak more than pleather/leather phones regardless of clamping force. If you haven't and if it's possible, you really should try to listen to these at a local shop before judging on how leaky/not leaky they are. I learned that everything about headphones is measured with a rubber ruler. One person's heavy bass is another person's mediocre bass. I think Riku beat me to it but you will have to make some sacrifices. Even IEM will have flaws like sound stage and positional accuracy.

 

 

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From what I've seen in the freq chart, 900 has stronger bass with nice mid (that I already like in 580) and high. Any tightness in bass and clear high is just a cherry on top for me as I liked the 580's sound signature.

post #273 of 5883

K thanks for the input. I'm gonna get the Stage probably a little later on when I can afford it

post #274 of 5883
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Hate to say it Scytus, but this headphone you're searching for doesn't seem to exist. If leakage/isolation is your top priority, you'll want to look into some IEMs; as headphones will never match them in those aspects.


 

Say it isn't so :C

 

The HFI-580's seem like a good contender though?

 

I'm looking for the heavy bass punch, airy soundstage(or at least as much as I can get for closed headphones, for gaming), clarity of mids/highs, very good at isolating/preventing leakage, and easy to drive ampless but does slightly benefit from an amp. The HFI-580's seem to meet these aspects pretty well. I've considered so many and I've been basically led to this result, with the exception of the DT770 Pro 80's I've been researching recently x]


 

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Originally Posted by Jibbie View Post

I have a feeling that you'll love the Pro 900 biggrin.gif.

Great bass (if not more quantity than the HFI 580s, then definitely higher quality).

Mids sound good, highs are sparkly, and for a closed can, soundstage is damn impressive.



You're saying everything that I want to hear! Time to get my hopes up.


 

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Originally Posted by Jibbie View Post

I have a feeling that you'll love the Pro 900 biggrin.gif.

Great bass (if not more quantity than the HFI 580s, then definitely higher quality).

Mids sound good, highs are sparkly, and for a closed can, soundstage is damn impressive.



That's what I was afraid of on the PRO900's. Regardless of how much the sound matches my preferences, the PRO900's leak too much sound for my use. Though I remember reading Wind016's impressions, with him being disappointed in the amount of bass (after experiencing the HFI-580s). I'm not sure if that disappointment was because it was at the same level of the HFI's and didn't improve, or was just less impactful overall.

 

I can tolerate a little bit of leak. I think any phones with velour/cloth pads will leak more than pleather/leather phones regardless of clamping force. If you haven't and if it's possible, you really should try to listen to these at a local shop before judging on how leaky/not leaky they are. I learned that everything about headphones is measured with a rubber ruler. One person's heavy bass is another person's mediocre bass. I think Riku beat me to it but you will have to make some sacrifices. Even IEM will have flaws like sound stage and positional accuracy.

 

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1973&graphID[]=933

 

From what I've seen in the freq chart, 900 has stronger bass with nice mid (that I already like in 580) and high. Any tightness in bass and clear high is just a cherry on top for me as I liked the 580's sound signature.


 

Oh I've had experience with the PRO550's I ordered previously, I eventually returned them as they didn't have the bass I was looking for, and leaked quite a lot. I assume that they are constructed in similarity to the PRO900's, thus leaving me to conclude that they leak a fair bit as well (with others in the thread confirming).

 

Leaking is a thing I'm really trying to avoid as I share an apartment with some school mates, and rather have the ability to listen to the headphones at any volumes without disturbing them.

 

Also I was just referencing Wind016's reactions to the PRO900's in terms of bass, I haven't had any experience with them myself.

post #275 of 5883

As you probably know I currently have both 580 and 770 on hand. I have been listening to 770 exclusively for two days and if I have to choose one (un-amped like how you will be using) I will choose 580 without hesitation. The only thing that I would miss is the comfort factor. Now if I have a properly amped source (I have not tried 770 with this yet) then maybe things will change but I plan to do that over the weekend.  

post #276 of 5883
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No problem.  For the price, its an amazing amp. You really can't go wrong with it.
 

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K thanks for the input. I'm gonna get the Stage probably a little later on when I can afford it

post #277 of 5883
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AHi,

My Pro 900s arrived this morning and I've been listening to about half an hour using my iPhone 4 and my Technics hi-fi. I'm used to using shure se530s and 535s so to start with these was strange to say the least. The soundstage is so different to what I'm used to, the shures were more 'in your face' and the 900s seem somewhat distant by comparison although I'm getting used to that.

The bass through my iPhone is better than my shures but still seems to be lacking. I tried through my hi-fi and the difference was night and day; great bass, so much so that I turned the sub down a bit. How can I improve the bass through my iPhone? I've listened to some dre beats through my iPhone and the bass was crazy. Granted not much else was any good but I'm looking for a 'fun' set of cans, ive already got my shures for accuracy.

How does the burn in affect the 900s? I've got a week cooling off period in which to return the 900s; something that I'll have to think about I guess.

Also, on my shures I'd have the iPhone volume at around 55% for it to be loud and completely block out external noise. With the 900s I need the volume at around 80% for the same output, if not a little quieter.

Thanks


 



If you listened to the big Dre's with ANC, those cans have a built in amp, so that might be the difference.
post #278 of 5883
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Originally Posted by Pindi View Post

AHi,

My Pro 900s arrived this morning and I've been listening to about half an hour using my iPhone 4 and my Technics hi-fi. I'm used to using shure se530s and 535s so to start with these was strange to say the least. The soundstage is so different to what I'm used to, the shures were more 'in your face' and the 900s seem somewhat distant by comparison although I'm getting used to that.

The bass through my iPhone is better than my shures but still seems to be lacking. I tried through my hi-fi and the difference was night and day; great bass, so much so that I turned the sub down a bit. How can I improve the bass through my iPhone? I've listened to some dre beats through my iPhone and the bass was crazy. Granted not much else was any good but I'm looking for a 'fun' set of cans, ive already got my shures for accuracy.

How does the burn in affect the 900s? I've got a week cooling off period in which to return the 900s; something that I'll have to think about I guess.

Also, on my shures I'd have the iPhone volume at around 55% for it to be loud and completely block out external noise. With the 900s I need the volume at around 80% for the same output, if not a little quieter.

Thanks


Unamped I was wondering what all the hype about the huge bass from the PRO 900s were. When I finally got to hear it through an amp I thought for my tastes there was FAR too much bass for my liking. If you want more bass from your iphone you're going to need to purchase a portable amp.

post #279 of 5883

How would you describe the difference betweem pro 900s and sennheiser hd650s?

 

greez

post #280 of 5883
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Also... @Katun, where is that D2000 vs Pro 900 review!?  I'm anxious tongue.gif

post #281 of 5883

Got the PRO 900 this morning and have been listening to them for about 2 hours. I think we have a WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

So far, I love everything about them! High and mid are clear, even clearer than 580 and the bass is also awesome as well, tight and loud!. This is from a Mac Pro so I am even more anxious to try with an amp and DAC (E7/E9 should be here in 2 days). Comfort-wise it's between HFI-580 and DT770 PRO but closer to DT770 so I am not complaining. Sound leak is also very close to DT770 so it will leak a little bit but not enough to be heard by people several feet away. Gonna burn this baby in for a while with the new amp/DAC and will do a full comparison review with HFI-580 and DT770 PRO 80. Going back to listening mode now biggrin.gif

post #282 of 5883
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Also... @Katun, where is that D2000 vs Pro 900 review!?  I'm anxious tongue.gif


Been a bit busy lately, but that is still planned. Although, it will most likely just be a standalone Pro 900 review, with snippets comparing it to my previous favorite headphone (D2000).

 

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Got the PRO 900 this morning and have been listening to them for about 2 hours. I think we have a WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

So far, I love everything about them! High and mid are clear, even clearer than 580 and the bass is also awesome as well, tight and loud!. This is from a Mac Pro so I am even more anxious to try with an amp and DAC (E7/E9 should be here in 2 days). Comfort-wise it's between HFI-580 and DT770 PRO but closer to DT770 so I am not complaining. Sound leak is also very close to DT770 so it will leak a little bit but not enough to be heard by people several feet away. Gonna burn this baby in for a while with the new amp/DAC and will do a full comparison review with HFI-580 and DT770 PRO 80. Going back to listening mode now biggrin.gif


Awesome, I'm glad you like it as well. Just wait until you put in some more time through them. I have 200hrs on mine now, and the highs are more controlled and less metallic sounding. The whole sound spectrum just becomes more refined. But no matter, I knew I would love this headphone from square one after I listened to the first song. It has a very, very special sound, but it's the bass that is just simply incredible. Just as Jibbie mentioned in the OP, the D2000 is no match when it comes to the low end. That I like.

post #283 of 5883

It's funny how there's always such talk of their supposed harshness in the treble range because honestly I never hear that at all. And I'm one of the more picky ones about treble harshess... just can't deal with it. I mean it's to the point where that has been the normal deal breaker about most head/earphones I've had and decided to sell off. To me, their sound strikes the perfect balance between the right amount of detail, separation, space, all while not being harsh. Perhaps it's my source/amp though. I'm running them out of the Sony X1060/Arrow combo. Both of those pieces are quite smooth by nature. I have not heard them out of a bright source yet. 

 

So far I feel no desire to mod them at all, because I like their stock sound so much. I may play around with cables a bit though. 

post #284 of 5883

This thread really got me excited. Thanks everyone! Mine are on the way from the recommended ebay seller. Looking forward!  biggrin.gif

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This thread really got me excited. Thanks everyone! Mine are on the way from the recommended ebay seller. Looking forward!  biggrin.gif


Another thing I really like about that eBay seller besides being the cheapest on the web, is that it comes with two sets of black pads instead of one black and one gray. Other than that, just like everyone else says, it's pretty much brand new. New smell, new look, new feel -- just black spare pads instead of gray. I couldn't be happier!

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