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post #5326 of 5811
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I wrote something similar about a year ago, even though the discussion was about something else:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/527451/ultrasone-pro-900-appreciation-thread/4260#post_8190950

 

The point being that is more about the mastering than the genre.

Ha! There's some great stuff in this thread. I've been going back and reading the whole thing a little at a time.

 

With good source material these are not bright at all. They are simply very detailed and have the best spatial quallities of any of the six brands of (closed back) headphones I have here.  I would be hard pressed to give them up at this point and they have quickly become my favorite. Truth be told,  I'm becoming my Pro 900s bitch. I can't take them off... I can see why you guys started a thread about 'em. These are positively ADDICTIVE. biggrin.gif


Edited by bareyb - 2/10/13 at 3:36pm
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Ha! There's some great stuff in this thread. I've been going back and reading the whole thing a little at a time.

With good source material these are not bright at all. They are simply very detailed and have the best spatial quallities of any of the six brands of (closed back) headphones I have here.  I would be hard pressed to give them up at this point and they have quickly become my favorite. Truth be told,  I'm becoming my Pro 900s bitch. I can't take them off... I can see why you guys started a thread about 'em. These are positively ADDICTIVE. biggrin.gif

I will say that they're "kind of" bright, but it's more aggression than anything else - the highs are crunchy and crisp, like celery (yeah; Stewie just said that), as opposed to many bright headphones that are just glass-cutters, or the dull presentation often associated with bassy headphones. Again, "with good source material" being the overall qualifier here; feed them harsh and sibilant claptrap and they'll put spikes into the death center of your brain. basshead.gif
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I will say that they're "kind of" bright, but it's more aggression than anything else - the highs are crunchy and crisp, like celery (yeah; Stewie just said that), as opposed to many bright headphones that are just glass-cutters, or the dull presentation often associated with bassy headphones. Again, "with good source material" being the overall qualifier here; feed them harsh and sibilant claptrap and they'll put spikes into the death center of your brain. basshead.gif

Yeah. I've experienced that with some of my daughter's recordings that made it onto my iPod. But then again, those songs also sounded like crap on the other headphones I have here too. The Pro 900s remind me a lot of MB Quart Floor standing speakers. They are also German made and sound very similar. Great detail but not harsh. Throw in a high quality Subwoofer and you've got the full experience. 

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Yeah. I've experienced that with some of my daughter's recordings that made it onto my iPod. But then again, those songs also sounded like crap on the other headphones I have here too. The Pro 900s remind me a lot of MB Quart Floor standing speakers. They are also German made and sound very similar. Great detail but not harsh. Throw in a high quality Subwoofer and you've got the full experience. 

Not that I've ever heard them, but MB Quart makes their own headphones. redface.gif
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Not that I've ever heard them, but MB Quart makes their own headphones. redface.gif

Really? It would be interesting to see how they compare. Their speakers are excellent. 

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Its a different company now called German Maestro. The GMP 8.35 D is very well regarded, among others. See here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/406658/the-german-maestro-gmp-8-35-d-monitor-in-the-studio-serious-about-audio-indeed

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Its a different company now called German Maestro. The GMP 8.35 D is very well regarded, among others. See here:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/406658/the-german-maestro-gmp-8-35-d-monitor-in-the-studio-serious-about-audio-indeed

Interesting. Thanks for the link. It sounds as though they have some very similar characteristics. smile.gif

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Anyone have any test tracks to really show the full potential of these cans? Genre doesn't matter.

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Anyone have any test tracks to really show the full potential of these cans? Genre doesn't matter.

I went over to iTunes and downloaded a few of the top selling Dubstep Tracks and yowza, they REALLY make the Pro 900s shine. Any kind of Electronic music sounds good through them. Shows off the tight punchy Bass and the pristine highs like none other. 

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I'm really getting sick of people saying these are "Basshead" phones. I really have to wonder sometimes what people are hearing or if they are even making up their own minds  or if they even know what a "basshead" headphone sounds like.

 

None of the professional reveiwers call them "Basshead" phones, and in fact routinely praise the tight detailed and DEEP Bass they produce along with the detailed and revealing soundstage. So it kind of blows my mind when someone says they are "bass canons and not much else". WTF?  Kind of makes me question their opinions on other models if they can be that far off on these... Just sayin'.... 

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That's why I said they get "typecast" as basshead phones as opinions differ on the matter. It would certainly appear to have accentuated bass going by the frequency response curve as well as recessed mids. However, what is neutral and/or natural to someone varies alot depending on previous experience, amplification and source as well as the style of music and how it was recorded. For example I used to have Beyer DT880 pro 250 ohm. Many people would call it a bright headphone, but to me, coming from a Grado SR80, it sounded very neutral and smooth. Also going from a DT880 to an Ultrasone Pro 900, the Ultrasone would likely seem bass heavy. Although I don't have any opinions on how Ultrasone phones sound like as I've never heard any, nor can I listen to any without buying them.

Joshua
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Originally Posted by AzraelDarkangel View Post

That's why I said they get "typecast" as basshead phones as opinions differ on the matter. It would certainly appear to have accentuated bass going by the frequency response curve as well as recessed mids. However, what is neutral and/or natural to someone varies alot depending on previous experience, amplification and source as well as the style of music and how it was recorded. For example I used to have Beyer DT880 pro 250 ohm. Many people would call it a bright headphone, but to me, coming from a Grado SR80, it sounded very neutral and smooth. Also going from a DT880 to an Ultrasone Pro 900, the Ultrasone would likely seem bass heavy. Although I don't have any opinions on how Ultrasone phones sound like as I've never heard any, nor can I listen to any without buying them.

Joshua

I think it comes down to the type of bass that people are looking for. I personally use a subwoofer with my home system and I like what it adds to the music and the feel of the music. Many Audiophiles swear they'd never own a subwoofer because it makes the music "unnatural and bass heavy". On the other hand, there are hoardes of audiophiles who think subwoofer brings out the true frequencies that are often lost with stand alone speaker systems. I see the same division here. Some of the headphones people rave about sound "thin" to me, but to them they have "great Bass". I always tell people, if you have a subwoofer at home, you will like the Pro 900s, if you don't have or wouldn't want a sub at home then maybe it's not for you. To me a Basshead Phone is one that has exaggerated "one note" Bass. The Pro 900s are anything but. 

 

ETA: Do you have access to Amazon.com? They have a very generous 30 day return policy. I bought the Pro 900s and the DT770s at the same time so I could compare. If you are very careful unpacking and repacking they have no problem with you sending them back. I'm not sure what they do with them after that but that's their policy. 


Edited by bareyb - 2/11/13 at 6:05pm
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am on to my 2nd pair of pro900 with dual entry...on my audiogd balanced amp...nothing loose at the bass end...

nothing piercing at the top end. spatial clarity a notch better on balanced mode.

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I think it's a matter of definition. I think of basshead phone as one that's noticeably north of neutral in the bass with alot of impact but actual quality can vary alot. I don't automatically see it as a definition for bad or "one note" type bass. However it depends on the headphone.
post #5340 of 5811
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Originally Posted by AzraelDarkangel View Post

I think it's a matter of definition. I think of basshead phone as one that's noticeably north of neutral in the bass with alot of impact but actual quality can vary alot. I don't automatically see it as a definition for bad or "one note" type bass. However it depends on the headphone.

That's how I initially was thinking of the term as well, but it didn't take much reading around here to see that "Basshead" is a put-down and something only an cloddish newb could possibly be interested in and that with time, one will become more refined...  Either way, I don't and won't ever put the Pro 900 in that category now that I've heard them.  wink.gif


Edited by bareyb - 2/11/13 at 6:19pm
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