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HD 600 VS DT 880 - 600ohm version??

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

I want to match one of these to the RSA - HR-2  headphone amp. Not sure if anyone has tried these combinations? I want a great headphone with plenty of detail, high resolution and wide sound-staging - oh - and nicely balanced...

 

600ohm is huge amount of impedance. I have no idea if the HR-2 can handle that much.... 

post #2 of 28

I can not answer your question regarding the RSA. However I've had these two HP's, and if you were looking for a warm, romantic, rich and laid-back can, I'd definitely recommend the HD600. Its sound is simply glorious.

That said; I would not term it revealing, detailed or high resolution. While very good, it doesn't come close to the upper end clarity and brilliance of the DT880 / 600.

 

The bass extension on the DT880 is also greater than on the HD600, which seems to roll off rather early.

 

Known for it’s brightness, the DT880 would be the way to go (between these two) for clarity and resolution.

 

shane

post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 

Thank you. I definitely want clarity and high resolution rather than warmth since I think the HR-2 will already have some of that. Which DT 880 did you own - the 32 or 600 ohm set??

post #4 of 28

I have owned the 250 and 600 Ohm. Kept the 600 Ohm as it had a mildly more pronounced low end and slightly reduced highs. The 250 Ohm were too 'thin' and shrill (for my ears and taste).

post #5 of 28
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The 600ohm version is the one I actually want to get. The thing is I want to pair it with the RSA HR-2 and possibly the SR-71A. I worry the 600ohms will be too high to drive for the amps...

post #6 of 28

Actually, this is a tough call. Both are great cans. But the biggest difference in quality is comfort. The beyers take this hands down IMO.

 

Both are very balanced with similar sound stage. I prefer the DT880's bass and the HD600's treble. Mids are a wash with a slight preference to the HD600s.

post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

Actually, this is a tough call. Both are great cans. But the biggest difference in quality is comfort. The beyers take this hands down IMO.

 

Both are very balanced with similar sound stage. I prefer the DT880's bass and the HD600's treble. Mids are a wash with a slight preference to the HD600s.


Interesting you say that... well, not really. rolleyes.gif  I would say that the HD600 has a lot in common with the SE535.


Edited by shane55 - 12/10/10 at 9:10am
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 

I had the Shure SE535s and they sounded awesome. Anyway - I'm edging towards the DT880 - 600ohms...thanks for keeping me informed..

post #9 of 28
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Actually, this is a tough call. Both are great cans. But the biggest difference in quality is comfort. The beyers take this hands down IMO.

 

Both are very balanced with similar sound stage. I prefer the DT880's bass and the HD600's treble. Mids are a wash with a slight preference to the HD600s.


Interesting you say that... well, not really. rolleyes.gif  I would say that the HD600 has a lot in common with the SE535.

 

The one issue I had with the DT880 and DT990s was the overly bright treble that could be too much with some recordings. I did not find that with the HD600s. 

post #10 of 28

Mids are a wash? 600 - Forward, lush. 880 - Distant, analytical. They couldn't sound anymore different. Also, you make it sound like the 600's comfort is Grado-like. If the Beyer's are a 10, the Senns are a 9. I know that's preference, but still, give the Senns some credit for comfort.

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Mids are a wash? 600 - Forward, lush. 880 - Distant, analytical. They couldn't sound anymore different. Also, you make it sound like the 600's comfort is Grado-like. If the Beyer's are a 10, the Senns are a 9. I know that's preference, but still, give the Senns some credit for comfort.


I did say a slight preference to the HD600s. wink.gif These are my opinions, you are entitled to yours and I to mine.

 

And yes the comfort on the DT880s with my melon where 9/10 and the HD600/HD650s were like 5/10. My head felt like a walnut at Christmas. But every head is different.

post #12 of 28

You can stretch the HD 600 headband out if it is too tight.  That's a non-issue.

 

I've been listening to these two phones with a Beyerdynamic A1 amp quite a bit lately.  I would not say the DT-880 is actually any more resolving highs - it's just louder there, giving the illusion of more resolution.  Actually, the treble is a bit harsh to my ears.  The bass on both is quite well controlled (for headphones, and the DT 880 has a little bit more), but oh... the mids of the HD 600... I would never want to part with them, they're that good.  Horns, sax, and guitar are amazing.  I actually prefer them to the HD 800 and T1 on this particular aspect.  The DT 880, on the other hand, sounds recessed and uninspiring.  I'd give the edge to the DT 880 for the more precise and wider soundstage - but my HD 600 pads are so worn that the 'phones are closer enough to affect their imaging (particularly the separation of instruments).

 

I'd pick the HD 600 overall based on their well-roundedness for any sort of material.  The harshness of the DT 880 treble, accentuated by its slight lacking of lower mids and mids really holds it back, IMO.

post #13 of 28
Thread Starter 

Hm... well - since I am ordering an HR-2 which is known to have warmth in the mids and as I read has a "darker" sound to it. I thought the HD600 might take me too far over the edge with the warmth - whereas the DT800 might balance the HR-2 warmth nicely. Having said that I hear that Ray uses the the HD 600 to test his amps. Also - I am only going on reviews. It is impossible for me to ever hear these products before buying them as I live in Taiwan - and we can't get the DT800 - 600 ohms...nor the RSA amps...unless I buy them...

post #14 of 28

I think perhaps I went a little overboard with my description of the highs as harsh, and stating unequivocally that they're not higher-resolving.

 

I really haven't listened to them nearly enough, to tell the truth.  I guess what I mean is this: I would hear details I didn't notice with the HD 600 when listening with the DT880.  Then, when I went back to listen with the HD 600, they were in fact there.  The difference was that the more dominant treble brought them out more - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

Now I want to go back and audition them some more.  To be honest, they're growing on me - as did the T1 with more listening.  In fact, I'd say that the DT880 are like a budget T1.  They have a very similar character, with the T1 just a little better in every aspect.  Conversely, the HD 800 is quite a different animal from the HD 600.

 

Given their price on Amazon in the US, it's hard for me to find a reason not to get them...  Granted, I said that about the AKG K701 last week.  Regardless, they're perhaps my number one "headphone of interest" right now.

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I think perhaps I went a little overboard with my description of the highs as harsh, and stating unequivocally that they're not higher-resolving.

 

I really haven't listened to them nearly enough, to tell the truth.  I guess what I mean is this: I would hear details I didn't notice with the HD 600 when listening with the DT880.  Then, when I went back to listen with the HD 600, they were in fact there.  The difference was that the more dominant treble brought them out more - which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

Now I want to go back and audition them some more.  To be honest, they're growing on me - as did the T1 with more listening.  In fact, I'd say that the DT880 are like a budget T1.  They have a very similar character, with the T1 just a little better in every aspect.  Conversely, the HD 800 is quite a different animal from the HD 600.

 

Given their price on Amazon in the US, it's hard for me to find a reason not to get them...  Granted, I said that about the AKG K701 last week.  Regardless, they're perhaps my number one "headphone of interest" right now.


I would not describe the T1s as similar t the DT880s. The DT880's have recessed mids and sizzly treble and are overall bright headphones. The T1s have forward lush mids with subdued treble and slightly warm. The tonal balance is quite different. Through in the improved bass depth and control and for me they are very different headphones. I did own both for 2 months at the same time before I jettisoned the DT880s. Sound stage wise, they are similar left to right, but back to front, the T1s do a much better job. Just my two cents from my personal experiences.

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