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post #421 of 851
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Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post



I quite fancy the Violectric look, but do not quite fancy its prices.  For the same prices, I think the Audiolab M-DAC and the Burson HD-160 offer better value than the Violectric products.  Thanks for the offer, though.

I agree, I'd love to have the v800 and v181 combo myself, but at over $2200 for the pair, I can't justify it over the mdac as a dac (on preorder) and either the jds objective 2 (already have) or Audio-gd C2-SA (on the way) as my amp. I'm hoping for great synergy with my lcd2r2s
post #422 of 851

V200/V800 combo

$2,150

 

M-DAC/HA-160

$1,500

 

Hmmm....You can buy a couple of good cans with the difference, or put the money to your speaker budget.


Edited by Mauricio - 4/23/12 at 2:14am
post #423 of 851

Any tips on headphones that have a special affinity with the mDac? My 325's are sounding good but interested in other perspectives

post #424 of 851

Go Try a HD600 or HD650. Depends on what you looking for. For balance across freq range, my defoam HD600 sound very good!

 

 

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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

Any tips on headphones that have a special affinity with the mDac? My 325's are sounding good but interested in other perspectives

 

 

post #425 of 851

LOL...

 

I am on the M-DAC/ HA-160 combo with an LCD-2.

It sounds very good. Nice fat bass with very good attack.

 

But I am planning on an amp upgrade to fully harness the powress of M-DAC.

Behold the Bryston BHA-1!

Going fully balanced to harness the powress of M-DAC's Sabre 9018.

post #426 of 851

 

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Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post

V200/V800 combo

$2,150

 

M-DAC/HA-160

$1,500

 

Hmmm....You can buy a couple of good cans with the difference, or put the money to your speaker budget.

 

 

V200/V800 combo

$2,150

 

M-DAC/BHA-1

$2,100

 

Hmmm...Me thinks Violectric is charging too much.

post #427 of 851
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Originally Posted by Joe-Siow View Post

LOL...

 

I am on the M-DAC/ HA-160 combo with an LCD-2.

It sounds very good. Nice fat bass with very good attack.

 

But I am planning on an amp upgrade to fully harness the powress of M-DAC.

Behold the Bryston BHA-1!

Going fully balanced to harness the powress of M-DAC's Sabre 9018.


It's funny you mention the M-DAC/Bryston combo. That's actually what I'm considering changing to albeit with the T1 I just ordered as I'm trying to sell my LCD-2. I got a chance to hear the Bryston with the T1 and LCD-2 and loved it. FWIW, the Bryston was being fed by a PS Audio PWD mk II so that could have influenced the sound.

I recently sold my Audio-GD NFB-1 sabre DAC and Schiit Lyr and while I don't think the M-DAC would be any better sounding, I certainly like the options and sleek design in comparison to the NFB-1.
post #428 of 851

I´ve ordered an MDAC and should be receiving it tomorrow. Had a 8200CDQ once and quite liked it. The MDAC should be even superior. It was a decision between Yulong D18 and the MDAC, but in the end the MDAC seemed like a safer way to go especially since I´m already familiar with John Westlake´s previous Sabre32 product. It´s also more versatile with upgradable firmware, filters and a future upgrade path via the MPAX (external high quality power supply). And it has to be said, it´s pretty awesome JohnW offers support for his gear all the time on the Pink Fish Media audio forums. That said, I´d love to hear the Yulong D18 someday too. It would make for an awesome post to put those two up against each other. 

 

Hopefully I´ll find the time to do a full comparative review of the MDAC against the DACs I have at hand (Hegel HD20 and ASUS E1). Every time I read project86´s excellent posts I´m inspired to try writing a review as well :)

 

EDIT: MDAC in the house. Currently burning it in. I'm not going to post much before I've had a lot more time with it. Honeymoon comments happen so easily, but I'll at least try to minimize them. Very brief first impressions though: not much point in comparing against the ASUS E1 no matter which opamp configuration it's on (out of the opamps I have that is, I haven't tried the single channel high end ones). It's in a different league, the difference is much larger than I expected. If E1 is the budget league giant, the MDAC is looking like a high end one. I'll be comparing it to the Hegel HD20 instead.


Edited by vrln - 4/30/12 at 3:16pm
post #429 of 851

So I am starting to find the MDAC a little harsh/bright after a couple of weeks. Is this due to burn in?  And what should I do - buy a head amp (Burson HA 160 or maybe the Icon Audio HP8) as I had planned, or try another set of cans (Sennheisers?).

post #430 of 851

No issue with my MDAC being bright or harsh. In contrary, I was concerned by some reports of the MDAC being a bit soft in the treble like the Yulong D18 but thankfully that was not the case. When your equipments and headphones become more revealing and transparent it becomes clear that not all recordings are created equal,  being produced and mastered  by different people with different abilities and equipments. The Stroke's This is It is one of my favourite album but I prefer to listen to it straight through the STX. 

If you like your Grado 325i getting the D18 or a tube amp my help with their excessively hot treble.

So what filter are you liking most with headphone? I mainly used Optimal Transient XD but recently switched to optimal Spectrum and I might like it better, feels more immediate and detailed.

post #431 of 851
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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

So I am starting to find the MDAC a little harsh/bright after a couple of weeks. Is this due to burn in?  And what should I do - buy a head amp (Burson HA 160 or maybe the Icon Audio HP8) as I had planned, or try another set of cans (Sennheisers?).

 

I've never found the M-DAC to be bright or harsh, although neither of my phones would ever be considered bright I still don't think the M-DAC would be considered bright or harsh. The reason I say this is, before I got the M-DAC I was lucky enough to have had a Neko Audio D100 MKII loaner here for a couple of weeks. The Neko is a fantastic DAC, I haven't had the chance to do a side by side with the M-DAC but from memory I think it betters the M-DAC in many ways. One notable difference is the Neko had a more prominent treble and upper midrange which for the most part sounded wonderful but it did have the effect of rendering a few recordings rather thin and somewhat harsh. The M-DAC on the other hand never seems to do this, pretty much everything sounds good out of it.

 

A couple of questions. Have you tried all your phones with the M-DAC? If so, do you find the same bright/harshness with all of them? What pads do you use on the 325i's? Are you using USB or optical out of the MacBook Pro?


Edited by elnero - 5/9/12 at 4:50am
post #432 of 851

To be honest I'm thinking its more of an issue I have with the 325s that I'm noticing now more with the greater transparency of the MDAC.  I need to try some other phones with them, maybe the T1 would be good?

post #433 of 851
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Originally Posted by elnero View Post

 

I've never found the M-DAC to be bright or harsh, although neither of my phones would ever be considered bright I still don't think the M-DAC would be considered bright or harsh. The reason I say this is, before I got the M-DAC I was lucky enough to have had a Neko Audio D100 MKII loaner here for a couple of weeks. The Neko is a fantastic DAC, I haven't had the chance to do a side by side with the M-DAC but from memory I think it betters the M-DAC in many ways. One notable difference is the Neko had a more prominent treble and upper midrange which for the most part sounded wonderful but it did have the effect of rendering a few recordings rather thin and somewhat harsh. The M-DAC on the other hand never seems to do this, pretty much everything sounds good out of it.

 

A couple of questions. Have you tried all your phones with the M-DAC? If so, do you find the same bright/harshness with all of them? What pads do you use on the 325i's? Are you using USB or optical out of the MacBook Pro?

I'm using the stock pads, with USB out.

post #434 of 851
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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

 

So what filter are you liking most with headphone? I mainly used Optimal Transient XD but recently switched to optimal Spectrum and I might like it better, feels more immediate and detailed.

This is a whole other topic - like you I've been using XD, I havn't got around to experimenting yet

post #435 of 851
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Originally Posted by avl06 View Post

To be honest I'm thinking its more of an issue I have with the 325s that I'm noticing now more with the greater transparency of the MDAC.  I need to try some other phones with them, maybe the T1 would be good?


I haven't heard the 325's but for me any Grado I've owned or tried needed flat pads. I've never bothered with the 325's myself because they had the rep of being the brightest of the Grado's. If you like the Grado sound you might try either the RS-1's or HF-2's. The HF-2's with flats weren't bright for me at all.

 

If you find you're sensitive to treble you might want to avoid phones that have the reputation of being brighter. The Sennheiser HD580, 600 or 650 might be an option, or on the upper end of the scale the LCD-2's are not a bright phone and on the plus side can be bought relatively cheaply on the used market.

 

Oh, and maybe try the optical out from your MacBook, I doubt it will solve anything but it wouldn't hurt to try it.

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